Mud Hair Wash=NO DC?

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Eden[/USER]:.;14164381]Detox Day 1:
-Used 1oz of mud and mixed with 3oz of water
-Was only able to wash twice
-Scalp has cool sensation, but still have build up (when I scratch w/ nail it's dirty still)
-Hair feels sticky, and is heavy (used dax on my last wash to seal, maybe I should of clarified and then detoxed the following wash week:scratchch)
-Stickiness makes it hard to detangle, unless under running water
-Slight ashiness (seems like I didn't get all the mud off...I think:perplexed)

Not sure how I feel right now, but I'm optimistic. I really feel I should have clarified and then detoxed later. I know I have a few layers of mineral oil and petroleum on my hair. Ugh, I don't want to waste product detoxing so I may sit with it for a while tomorrow.


ETA: FAQ said hair may be sticky, until detox is complete.

For the detox try not diluting so much. I wouldn't do more than a 50/50. So 1 oz mud wash to 1 oz water. I tried diluting it more and it didn't work as well. And you may want to just use regular shampoo (not clarifying) to wash your hair since you do have lots of product on it. Clarifying will be too much and you will think the mud wash isn't working. You will also think your hair is stripped.

I experienced the stickness on days 2 and 3. Its more of a gummy feeling but it went away around day 5. But your hair shouldn't be so sticky that you can't detangle. Just sticky enough that you feel it when it starts to dry.
 
Thanks for the update. It would be interesting to hear your comparison of the detox especially since you have been using clay for years. I am glad you had good results from the mud wash.

faithVA I am really excited about the mud wash. My usual clay treatment gave my hair weight...I mean it made it extremely heavy but certain areas were still porous. The mud wash seems to be helping those areas. I am also using it on my oldest daughter's hair whose has porosity issues too.
 
Has anyone else received this product with a broken cap? I think I have the contact the company about that.

I still went ahead and used the product, but I don't really think it's working for me YET. I'm on day four of my detox, and I've been following the instructions to a T. However, I haven't seen any difference. It's been extremely difficult to detangle my hair. It does feel very stripped. I've had to be extremely gentle and finger comb to get out as much tangles as I can. I'm a little upset that I can feel single strand knots on my ends, and I didn't have this problem before. I'm trying to stick it out to day 7, and hopefully, things will change. I did read that it's suppose to get better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I get the moisturized feeling that everyone else is experiencing. So far, my hair just feels really thirsty, and I notice a lot more shed hair than normal.

ETA: I use the lemon version, and I have absolutely no slip. How are you guys able to detangle? It feels like I'm actually clarifying my hair when I use this.
 
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OKAY. Lurked and leered long enough. Just made my purchased of Lavendar Garden and Left Coast Lemon. Can't wait to receive and try them. This forum can wreck havoc on the small change purse. LOL
 
I think that is what the detox is for to remove all the product build-up that you have and it might take more than one day depending on how much build-up you have on your hair.. Doing that detox for the 7 days is suppose to remove build-up and products each wash.. It should get better each wash.. For it to be sticky you must have had a lot of build-up.. I do know some people did ACV b4 the detox I think and that help removed some of the product too..

I saw some use ACV, but I'm reluctant. I'll let the mud work first. I think when I'm done with the detox I'll have a better idea of how it works.

For the detox try not diluting so much. I wouldn't do more than a 50/50. So 1 oz mud wash to 1 oz water. I tried diluting it more and it didn't work as well. And you may want to just use regular shampoo (not clarifying) to wash your hair since you do have lots of product on it. Clarifying will be too much and you will think the mud wash isn't working. You will also think your hair is stripped.

I experienced the stickness on days 2 and 3. Its more of a gummy feeling but it went away around day 5. But your hair shouldn't be so sticky that you can't detangle. Just sticky enough that you feel it when it starts to dry.

I think I'll just stick with the wash itself. I don't want to interfere with what the mud is doing like they advise. And I'll dilute less, thanks. I can detangle under running water, but not outside the shower as it's drying, which is what I normally do. Thanks again!
 
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@[URL="http://www.longhaircareforum.com/member.php?u=31309" said:
Ediese[/URL];14165681]Has anyone else received this product with a broken cap? I think I have the contact the company about that.

I still went ahead and used the product, but I don't really think it's working for me YET. I'm on day four of my detox, and I've been following the instructions to a T. However, I haven't seen any difference. It's been extremely difficult to detangle my hair. It does feel very stripped. I've had to be extremely gentle and finger comb to get out as much tangles as I can. I'm a little upset that I can feel single strand knots on my ends, and I didn't have this problem before. I'm trying to stick it out to day 7, and hopefully, things will change. I did read that it's suppose to get better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I get the moisturized feeling that everyone else is experiencing. So far, my hair just feels really thirsty, and I notice a lot more shed hair than normal.

ETA: I use the lemon version, and I have absolutely no slip. How are you guys able to detangle? It feels like I'm actually clarifying my hair when I use this.

No I didn't receive it with a broken cap and I ordered twice. With any purchase its possible to have something defective with the bottles. I would just contact the company and let them know. Is it so broken that you can't store it properly?

Are you natural, texlaxed or relaxed? So you washed 3x day 1 & 2, 2x on days 3,4?
 
No I didn't receive it with a broken cap and I ordered twice. With any purchase its possible to have something defective with the bottles. I would just contact the company and let them know. Is it so broken that you can't store it properly?

Are you natural, texlaxed or relaxed? So you washed 3x day 1 & 2, 2x on days 3,4?

Yes, the cap is broken, so it's not sealed as securely. I wrapped it with plastic, and tried to use another cap to seal it.

I'm natural 4a with some 3c. I did wash 3x on the first and second day. I washed 2x on the third day. Today is the fourth day, so I'll be washing 2x today as well.
 
I've been using this for a minute and i have been all smiles. I can't see myself using any other wash ever again as long as they continue making this stuff. I just placed another order for 2 more bottles of the left coast lemon on Friday. It seems they are out of the bigger bottles or maybe i just missed it. I'll be washing again today and afterwards using a conditioner because i just love how the conditioner melts into my hair once i'm done.
 
I've been using this for a minute and i have been all smiles. I can't see myself using any other wash ever again as long as they continue making this stuff. I just placed another order for 2 more bottles of the left coast lemon on Friday. It seems they are out of the bigger bottles or maybe i just missed it. I'll be washing again today and afterwards using a conditioner because i just love how the conditioner melts into my hair once i'm done.

Same here I been all smiles also.. I ordered the 16 oz last week and it came within 3 days after I ordered.. That was UPS.. I plan to place another order in 2 weeks I just want to make sure I always have this on hand.. I plan to use my shea moisture DC tonight I might even use my steamer
 
Same here I been all smiles also.. I ordered the 16 oz last week and it came within 3 days after I ordered.. That was UPS.. I plan to place another order in 2 weeks I just want to make sure I always have this on hand.. I plan to use my shea moisture DC tonight I might even use my steamer

Hmmm, i wonder if they are just out of the 16's because on my last order i asked for one and they sent me two 8 ouncers. I don't like to get low either girl especially with all the popularity :lol: Whenever i get to like 2 bottles i try to order more. I need to see if i can find this locally somewhere so i can stop paying the shipping all the time. your hair is gorgeous girl! i'll bet the wash makes your hair like silky butter.
 
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Ediese[/USER];14166551]Yes, the cap is broken, so it's not sealed as securely. I wrapped it with plastic, and tried to use another cap to seal it.

I'm natural 4a with some 3c. I did wash 3x on the first and second day. I washed 2x on the third day. Today is the fourth day, so I'll be washing 2x today as well.

You may be able to put a little piece of foil over the top to seal it and then put the cap on.

I'm not sure why your aren't noticing any difference. I noticed a difference with every wash. They weren't always more positive they swung back and forth with the first day each feeling wonderful. But the 2nd day it felt ok. The third day it was sticky but it felt moisturized.

But my hair wasn't severely tangled on any of the days, even washing loose so it was easily detangled with no product. Not sure about 4a/3c hair. Maybe you can add a little oil? AVG/oil to help detangle and rinse.

You may still want to apply and oil, leave-in, butter or whatever you use to style with.
 
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Je Ne Sais Quoi[/USER];14166933]I've been using this for a minute and i have been all smiles. I can't see myself using any other wash ever again as long as they continue making this stuff. I just placed another order for 2 more bottles of the left coast lemon on Friday. It seems they are out of the bigger bottles or maybe i just missed it. I'll be washing again today and afterwards using a conditioner because i just love how the conditioner melts into my hair once i'm done.

What conditioner are you using?
 
Has anyone else received this product with a broken cap? I think I have the contact the company about that.

I still went ahead and used the product, but I don't really think it's working for me YET. I'm on day four of my detox, and I've been following the instructions to a T. However, I haven't seen any difference. It's been extremely difficult to detangle my hair. It does feel very stripped. I've had to be extremely gentle and finger comb to get out as much tangles as I can. I'm a little upset that I can feel single strand knots on my ends, and I didn't have this problem before. I'm trying to stick it out to day 7, and hopefully, things will change. I did read that it's suppose to get better. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I get the moisturized feeling that everyone else is experiencing. So far, my hair just feels really thirsty, and I notice a lot more shed hair than normal.

ETA: I use the lemon version, and I have absolutely no slip. How are you guys able to detangle? It feels like I'm actually clarifying my hair when I use this.
Maybe the left coast lemon is not for you?? My hair does not feel stripped after using. Just the opposite actually. However, i'm ignant and don't follow instructions on anything because i don't believe in a "one instructions fits all" when it comes to these types of situations. I use conditioner after i use my wash. Maybe thats the difference?
 
Maybe the left coast lemon is not for you?? My hair does not feel stripped after using. Just the opposite actually. However, i'm ignant and don't follow instructions on anything because i don't believe in a "one instructions fits all" when it comes to these types of situations. I use conditioner after i use my wash. Maybe thats the difference?

Thanks! I read that it's the most moisturizing for kinky hair, so that's why I chose that one. I haven't been using conditioner or any products because I wanted to try it by the book. I thought the purpose of using it was to strip those commercial types of products? That's why I haven't tried to use them. I did use a little jojoba oil yesterday, but it still felt dry. Hmm...I'm not sure what I'll do. I don't want to use products that aren't natural because it defeats the purpose of the detox. Anyway, I'll see.
 
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Ediese[/USER];14167115]Thanks! I read that it's the most moisturizing for kinky hair, so that's why I chose that one. I haven't been using conditioner or any products because I wanted to try it by the book. I thought the purpose of using it was to strip those commercial types of products? That's why I haven't tried to use them. I did use a little jojoba oil yesterday, but it still felt dry. Hmm...I'm not sure what I'll do. I don't want to use products that aren't natural because it defeats the purpose of the detox. Anyway, I'll see.

I think most of us that detoxed did apply something to style or to put our hair up. We may have not used commercial products but we used our oil mix, AVG mix or a shea butter mix. Some had commercial natural products that they used.

I don't think anyone did the whole detox without putting anything on the hair.
 
I think most of us that detoxed did apply something to style or to put our hair up. We may have not used commercial products but we used our oil mix, AVG mix or a shea butter mix. Some had commercial natural products that they used.

I don't think anyone did the whole detox without putting anything on the hair.
Yes, this! I didn't didn't use a natual mix because I just love my pantene relaxed and natural but most are using natural product to complement the detox/wash. For me the purpose of using the product was to get my hair as clean, product free and moisturized as possible by using the wash in conjuction with other products (natural or otherwise). I generally wash twice in the shower when i use the detox but other than that i'm not following this to the tee.
 
I think most of us that detoxed did apply something to style or to put our hair up. We may have not used commercial products but we used our oil mix, AVG mix or a shea butter mix. Some had commercial natural products that they used.

I don't think anyone did the whole detox without putting anything on the hair.

The 1st time I did it I put stuff on my hair but then I read the instructions and it said if you put something on your hair you need to do the detox all over again so I stopped putting stuff on my hair thinking it would hurt the detox.. and just wash my hair and plait it up.. I really didn't have to worry about using product because I work at home and if I had to run to the store I threw on a wig.. I cut my detox short because my hair felt like I didn't need it anymore I guess because I was doing the detox anyway but started back over when I used products on my hair.
 
Hmmm, i wonder if they are just out of the 16's because on my last order i asked for one and they sent me two 8 ouncers. I don't like to get low either girl especially with all the popularity :lol: Whenever i get to like 2 bottles i try to order more. I need to see if i can find this locally somewhere so i can stop paying the shipping all the time. your hair is gorgeous girl! i'll bet the wash makes your hair like silky butter.

Thanks.. Not quite.. When I rinsed my hair for the 1st time after the detox it did feel good and it was like the twist out I had in just melted away and this was with just water.. I noticed that the lemon doesn't feel as thick as the lavendar did on my hands I just took a little bit that I didn't dilute water and massage that thru my scalp..

Just Natural Skin Care has a heat protectant and something for flat ironing I never used these 2 products b4 and they don't contain silicone either so this will be my choice if I ever decide to heat style my hair but these products aren't cheap either..:nono:
 
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Results of Day Two: rinsed hair and as rinsing hair felt stripped but once done rinsing hair felt soft and detangled. Now on day two I massge alot especially the wirey short patch and aftereard this patch tingled for hours it seems.

On day three of detox applied another mask and massage all over but not as much tingle as before. I will let sit for a couple of hours. Anyway I love the products no need for any conditioner afterwards. Now for the bad news: I have used a 16 oz bottle in three days!!!!!!!!:ohwell: Needless to say I will order more BUT dilute, dilute dilute........ I will try the pepermint and continue with the left coast lemon.....
 
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[USER=104981 said:
McQuay30[/USER];14167817]Results of Day Two: rinsed hair and as rinsing hair felt stripped but once done rinsing hair felt soft and detangled. Now on day two I massge alot especially the wirey short patch and aftereard this patch tingled for hours it seems.

On day three of detox applied another mask and massage all over but not as much tingle as before. I will let sit for a couple of hours. Anyway I love the products no need for any conditioner afterwards. Now for the bad news: I have used a 16 oz bottle in three days!!!!!!!!:ohwell: Needless to say I will order more BUT dilute, dilute dilute........ I will try the pepermint and continue with the left coast lemon.....

If it makes you feel better I did the same thing. and it was over the weekend and I was sweating whether I would get the next bottle before I ran out. Sweatin :grin: I now do 2 oz of mud wash and 2 oz of water. I tried diluting it more but after that it doesn't work as well for me.
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Hopefully I will get as good as naptural85 and just that small amount she uses undiluted.
 
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If it makes you feel better I did the same thing. and it was over the weekend and I was sweating whether I would get the next bottle before I ran out. Sweatin :grin: I now do 2 oz of mud wash and 2 oz of water. I tried diluting it more but after that it doesn't work as well for me.
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Hopefully I will get as good as naptural85 and just that small amount she uses undiluted.


Yeah I was going to order another bottle but I was like no maybe.... I can make it but the ease of it alreayd pre-mixed and ready to use overwhelmed me:grin:. So I order an 16 oz of the Cool Mint because I love the tingle:grin:, something about tingling make me feel the product is doing what is it supposed to do. So I order the Cool Mint, I WILL dilute and see how long it last:lol:. Another different from the third day compared to the last two day is the " clumping" or "curl definition" of my new growth and I have a patch in the back of my head that seems to be straight now this patch is in my kitchen area. So now I am beginning to wonder what is my curl type. I always thought I had 4b around my perimeter and 4a though out the head but now I believe still 4a but ,maybe 3c in nape and 4b around the front perimter. This back portion is just about straight it is crazy but it would be curled so tight it was like a little ball but now it straighted out... Oh well!!! Can't wait for the Cool Mint.:grin:
 
Results of Day Two: rinsed hair and as rinsing hair felt stripped but once done rinsing hair felt soft and detangled. Now on day two I massge alot especially the wirey short patch and aftereard this patch tingled for hours it seems.

On day three of detox applied another mask and massage all over but not as much tingle as before. I will let sit for a couple of hours. Anyway I love the products no need for any conditioner afterwards. Now for the bad news: I have used a 16 oz bottle in three days!!!!!!!!:ohwell: Needless to say I will order more BUT dilute, dilute dilute........ I will try the pepermint and continue with the left coast lemon.....

I might have lasted a little longer than 3 but my bottle was 8oz and I just thought I used it up too fast.. I have the 16oz now and I am making sure I don't used too much.. I got my fingers crossed
 
I might have lasted a little longer than 3 but my bottle was 8oz and I just thought I used it up too fast.. I have the 16oz now and I am making sure I don't used too much.. I got my fingers crossed


Well next time I will last longer than 3 days with a 16oz bottle otherwise this may not be a wise investment..:perplexed
 
Well next time I will last longer than 3 days with a 16oz bottle otherwise this may not be a wise investment..:perplexed

Well you are half way through the detox and the washes get fewer and fewer so it will last you longer. And as you get comfortable with it you will dilute it to work for you. I think its tough going from shampoo/conditioner to mud. The consistency is different. and we are still learning how much is really enough.

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I didn't do the the washes, I let it sit for 1 to 4 hour per day as a mask.

oh ... my bad :look: Ok, then yes just stick to 2 oz of mud wash and 2 oz of water per wash. I'm am SL medium density and that is enough for me. I could probably go 2 oz of mud wash with 3 oz of water but that is as far as I would dilute it.
 
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