Any thoughts on Maximum Hydration Method

[fluffyforever]

SimJam

My hair used to appear ashy too. It looked so dull and grayish. I used to put a clear rinse in my conditioners just to give it some luster and sheen. However, all I had was dull grayish-black hair with a hint of shine. I have only done the full treatment 3 times and my hair looks richer in color. It no longer has the grey undertones and just looks black now.

Today was Day 3 of MHM. The only visible difference from Day 1 is my product free hair hangs low enough to touch my shoulders. I'll post more before and afters if there is another dramatic difference. Even if my hair makes no more progress in clumping, reducing frizz, showing length, or becoming softer, I can say I am 100% satisfied after 3 days.

 

[SimJam]

fluffyforever you know I thought the same thing this morning ... I am totally satisfied with my hair as it is right now

I think after this weekend I will only do the process once a week. If I get home during the week and feel like doing my hair I may do it. But my twistouts are so nice now I always feel a way when I have to wash them out

 

[Adiatasha]

Is anyone with 4c hair using the original recipe and gaining positive results still?
By the time I got to page 20.... Everything had been substituted for something else.

 

[myfaithrising]

Is anyone with 4c hair using the original recipe and gaining positive results still? By the time I got to page 20.... Everything had been substituted for something else.

Hi Adiatasha, I'm still using the original recipes, and I'm still doing the full regimen. My results are very positive and my hair is progressing nicely. I initially had very dramatic results but now I'm moving more slowly, yet steadily towards maximum hydration.

 

[myfaithrising]

By the way, they're doing something with the clay step, not sure if it's going to be optional or if the recipe will be tweaked. This seems to be the step most folks have an issue with, if there is an issue at all, so it looks like they're addressing it. Msdeekay is going to update her site to spell it all out. Still waiting patiently for The Natural Haven...

 

[crimsonpeach]

By the way, they're doing something with the clay step, not sure if it's going to be optional or if the recipe will be tweaked. This seems to be the step most folks have an issue with, if there is an issue at all, so it looks like they're addressing it. Msdeekay is going to update her site to spell it all out. Still waiting patiently for The Natural Haven...

Interesting. I'm waiting for The Natural Haven's take also. I read her original article on the method and interested In her findings.

This method has so far been a success for me so I'm hoping that the wind doesn't get taken out of my sails. Lol

 

[CocoGlow]

I'm also interested in what JC from Natural Haven has to say about the MHM in scientific terms ... but I have to keep in mind that this is the same woman that uses a silicone-based conditioner on the regular (Herbal Essence's Hello Hydration) something that a lot of naturals need to stay away from for the drying/coating effect it tends to have (based on actual experience trying those conditioners-not just theory) .... so if her views are positive, great! But if her views are negative it does not neccesarily mean that the MHM is bad or dangerous ...

Seems like the ones who decide to stop doing the MHM do so out of convenience and not something like their hair falling out, etc ... and people have been doing this method for months without tragedy so that gives me hope

 

[Nightingale]

Interesting. I'm waiting for The Natural Haven's take also. I read her original article on the method and interested In her findings.

This method has so far been a success for me so I'm hoping that the wind doesn't get taken out of my sails. Lol

I'm interested in her take as well. From my experience with the regimen, it works.

 

[SimplyWhole]

An alternate for the baking soda with Castile soap for low porosity hair types.


http://www.natreview.com/2012/04/18...ally-speaking-moisturizing-low-porosity-hair/

 

[crimsonpeach]

Since I'm washing my hair tonight, I decided to dampen my hair and put in medium sized twists for a twistout.

Noticeable differences: I can separate my hair without causing frizz. The hair that is the most hydrated separates into its individual curls. I did get a few knots on the ends of my hair where I know I need to trim.

I think I will get fuller hair if I retwisted this tonight. Today's hair is kinda flat but that was always true of my day one hair.

I'm definitely getting a good shape up when I trim in November. Just not liking how my hair falls.

 

[faithVA]

An alternate for the baking soda with Castile soap for low porosity hair types.


http://www.natreview.com/2012/04/18...ally-speaking-moisturizing-low-porosity-hair/

I do plan on trying this. I need to figure out the correct ratio to add to my conditioner and water mix. I tried castille soap before but it opened my cuticles up way more than I liked. When I get the ratios I will post back.

I like the baking soda but I think I will reduce the amount in my conditioner and alternate between the baking soda and the acv.

 

[faithVA]

I've been on vacation and haven't been doing the method. I went swimming on vacation and only did a cowash and twisted up. Then it was a least a week before I washed again. Even with that I was able to wear my hair out for two days at the end and my hair didn't shrink up or get matted.

My hair isn't showing any signs of curling or clumping even after doing the method for a while. However, the improved manageability and flexibility with my hair is great. Since it is getting cooler I will wash 2x a week. The midweek wash I will skip the clay step and I will add the clay step on my weekend wash since I have more time. It may slow down my results but I don't foresee trying to wear my hair out again until March.

 

[Honey Bee]

Is anyone with 4c hair using the original recipe and gaining positive results still?
By the time I got to page 20.... Everything had been substituted for something else.

@Adiatasha, What do you mean? Give me an example, like, 'On page 2 Pinke Cube said to use x and, by the end, she's saying to use y'?

 

[Adiatasha]

@Adiatasha, What do you mean? Give me an example, like, 'On page 2 Pinke Cube said to use x and, by the end, she's saying to use y'?

What I meant was that it seemed as though most of the posters had gotten away from pinkcubes recipe and were manipulating the recipe due to ingredients already in their possession or their hair type, porosity, shaving off time...and a host of reason why they couldn't stick to it. And that is NO SHADE to those who did that.

I was looking for someone who had not modified it and gained positive results with 4c hair.

Have you been able to do this honeybee ?

 

[myfaithrising]

I do plan on trying this. I need to figure out the correct ratio to add to my conditioner and water mix. I tried castille soap before but it opened my cuticles up way more than I liked. When I get the ratios I will post back.

I like the baking soda but I think I will reduce the amount in my conditioner and alternate between the baking soda and the acv.

I've been trying to find a way to get my shampoo bars in the mix, I think I'll melt them down and try adding them to my conditioner. Hopefully it will work, I'll have to figure out ratios. Until then, baking soda it is.

 

[bemajor]

Are there approved shampoos once you get into maintenance mode? Or should you only use the clay or baking soda/acv to cleanse?

 

[myfaithrising]

Are there approved shampoos once you get into maintenance mode? Or should you only use the clay or baking soda/acv to cleanse?

No shampoo allowed, bemajor. They're not approved for this regimen.

 

[myfaithrising]

^^^ of course I'm sneaking some in, hopefully I won't be kicking myself next week

 

[HeavenlySkies]

So I've been doing this and I've had awesome results but I'm not really digging the jheri curl look. The Kinky curly is crunchy and hard as hell and I hate it. I've also used the la giovanni gel and it's too thick also leaves hair hard. I'm wondering if I can rinse this out after I put the kinky curly on it because my hair is like a brick.

 

[myfaithrising]

So I've been doing this and I've had awesome results but I'm not really digging the jheri curl look. The Kinky curly is crunchy and hard as hell and I hate it. I've also used the la giovanni gel and it's too thick also leaves hair hard. I'm wondering if I can rinse this out after I put the kinky curly on it because my hair is like a brick.

Try diluting your gel, that should reduce the crunch and leave a softer hold.

 

[crimsonpeach]

Try diluting your gel, that should reduce the crunch and leave a softer hold.

I second this and also apply a little oil before the gel.

 

[DarkJoy]

The one downside:

Bye bye indigo.

The first dew days I watched the clay rinse turn black in the shower as I washed it out I immediately knew what it was.

Now its gone and my hair is bright henna red again. Exactly what I don't want AND my grays are out in all their glory....

Anyone with color either semi or demi or indigo find their color gone?

Not sure how to color it and work with the mhm clay step since it must be done so often. Permanent color makes my hair disintegrate. .

 

[faithVA]

DarkJoy[/USER];20568653]The one downside:

Bye bye indigo.

The first dew days I watched the clay rinse turn black in the shower as I washed it out I immediately knew what it was.

Now its gone and my hair is bright henna red again. Exactly what I don't want AND my grays are out in all their glory....

Anyone with color either semi or demi or indigo find their color gone?

Not sure how to color it and work with the mhm clay step since it must be done so often. Permanent color makes my hair disintegrate. .

I doubt that the semi color would last since it is closer to henna and indigo. The demi should last a bit longer but it will fade sooner than if you weren't using the clay.

Does the indigo wash out immediately or is it washing out over time?

 

[DarkJoy]

Hey faith! !

It came out the first 3 clay rinses. The water ran black and I was like noooooo! That was a years worth of indigo washed down the drain.

Not sure how to move forward.

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

I usually switch from bentonite to rhassoul clay to slow down the effects. Bentonite sucks everything out lolol

 

[faithVA]

Hey faith! !

It came out the first 3 clay rinses. The water ran black and I was like noooooo! That was a years worth of indigo washed down the drain.

Not sure how to move forward.

How often do you usually indigo? Maybe you can mix indigo with your mud?

I'm probably not going to be much help to you. I did look for some alternative coloring methods and just settled back in to SM permanent color.

 

[faithVA]

I usually switch from bentonite to rhassoul clay to slow down the effects. Bentonite sucks everything out lolol

I think I want to try the rhassoul as well. The Bentonite is still very drying to my hair. I need to pick up some rhassoul.

 

[DarkJoy]

Thanks ladies. I used pink clay. Very moisturizing but bad for indigo I guess. I switched to rhassoul earlier this week. Maybe I will indigo this weekend and see what rhassoul does with it.

Mixing them might be an option too. I indigo monthly

Its a shame because this method is really working for me.

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

Or mix bentonite with rhassoul.

If you use kaolin only use a tiny amount and more rhassoul. Kaolin is like bentonite on crack LOL.

Green Clay is a little under bentonite. I dont like pink clay, it took forever to get out of my hair. I didnt mix it though so it could have been better.

Rhassoul is my moisturizing , conditioning , clay, so I tend to mix it with lots of stuff.

 

[faithVA]

DarkJoy[/USER];20568771]Thanks ladies. I used pink clay. Very moisturizing but bad for indigo I guess. I switched to rhassoul earlier this week. Maybe I will indigo this weekend and see what rhassoul does with it.

Mixing them might be an option too. I indigo monthly

Its a shame because this method is really working for me.

Well keep us posted. Would definitely like to know which clay and color combination works for you.

I may need to try the pink clay if it is moisturizing. Where did you get your pink clay from?