My theory about hair growth...

[Bublnbrnsuga]

I get tons of messages asking me what products I used on my hair in the 3 years I have been natural to make my hair grow. When I am asked this,I am stumped because I have never used a product since being natural that was supposed to make my hair grow. I don't believe there's ANY product out there that increases growth- they only enhance (or maintain) what you already have growing out of your scalp. Any thoughts?

 

[Poohbear]

I basically agree with you Bublnbrnsuga.

 

[beyondcute]

After using MTG I have to agree. I dont think they can grow hair but they can improve the conditions. Nothign can grow a plant but you can buy fertilizer and make sure its watered and in a sunny place. BUT it still comes down to the seed. Conditions of growth can make it grow healthier (like making sure you eat right) but I dont think anything can make it grow FASTER. Unless there was something wrong like a vitamin deficiency (but I highly doubt that... everything nowadays is fortified and stuff )

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

After using MTG I have to agree. I dont think they can grow hair but they can improve the conditions. Nothign can grow a plant but you can buy fertilizer and make sure its watered and in a sunny place. BUT it still comes down to the seed. Conditions of growth can make it grow healthier (like making sure you eat right) but I dont think anything can make it grow FASTER. Unless there was something wrong like a vitamin deficiency (but I highly doubt that... everything nowadays is fortified and stuff )

I likes that seed analogy

 

[1QTPie]

I agree with you completely BBS.

 

[Cheleigh]

I feel like my hair has been growing really well since I improved my hair's conditions--more moisture, more cleansing, scalp manipulation, better product ingredients.

 

[leleepop]

I agree with Bbs too. I used MTG for my first relaxer stretch. Then the second one I did not. My hair grew exactly the same no more no less.

 

[shellzfoshizzle]

I agree. I stopped using all the mtg's and mnt's and grow greases. My old hair stylist (who was actually quite good at her job, despite our view on stylists) told me that the only thing that could grow the hair was a clean healthy scalp and moisture, and I couldn't agree more with her.

 

[erin558]

I agree with you and I've been wanting to say this but I thought people would argue me down. Long ago I stopped thinking that there was some miracle product to help my hair grow faster. I have learned that my hair will grow as fast as it wants but that there are products that will help maintain the growth instead of my hair shedding and me thinking my hair hasn't grown.

 

[Crissi]

Well I've noticed that when I take vitamins and eat eggs, I get atleast an inch of hair growth, rather than the 0.5 or sometimes 0.25 that I get when I'm not doing those things.

 

[ekomba]

I get tons of messages asking me what products I used on my hair in the 3 years I have been natural to make my hair grow. When I am asked this,I am stumped because I have never used a product since being natural that was supposed to make my hair grow. I don't believe there's ANY product out there that increases growth- they only enhance (or maintain) what you already have growing out of your scalp. Any thoughts?

I dont agree Bublnbrnsuga for the simple facts that the scalp is porous it s not true at all that any ingredients we put be it relaxers or anything does not penetrate the scalps specially if mixed with certain oils or products that do penetrate the scalp. Thus for instance you supposed to use gloves when handling perms and dyes. i believe that topical and non-topical products can help accelerate your growth or make it grow faster. For instance products like msm, foti just by prolonging the span life of your hair and making a longer anagen/telagen phase instead of lets say your hair stopping to grow and shedding at a say date has a longer cycle helps you to achieve even twice the amount you supposed to (these products msm and fotki help slow the aging process and help you live longer). When i dont use vitamins and treat my hair the same since i joined the hair board i noticed my hair grows slower. for instance cornrows i can keep a whole month or 6weeks but with the topical and non-topical aids i cant keep more than a week or 2 and get the same growth i would in 2 weeks than i would get in 2 months imagine the faces of my braiders seeing me come back after just 2 weeks with a head full of hair and the 2 weeks right after until they ask me to write down and bring my biotin and stuff

Everything does not work on everybody i agree i know trimedica msm and gnc ultranourishair did not do anything. but when i run out of my stuff, my hair goes back to his natural growth and i do eat healthy but there s no way in the world you can go from zit to shoulder length in just one year. i mean i m keep documenting the growth i know which vitamins give me slower growth, which topical aids work. what i do i just braid my hair, apply the products daily, put a plastic cap and leave it alone. i had already compared and noticed that when i do the same do the braids wear a scarf and leave it alone i just get my regular growth at least with the vits and all i can keep at least one inch a month which is a large stretch.

Many topical products using african herbs, protein, essential oils,sulfur have been known and used for ages to grow hair and better the conditions of the hair and help with alopecia, slow growth or regrowth be it minoval, nioxin follicle booster and they always worked with me like i said not everything worked depending on bodies you have to try different things and see what works for each

 

[Victorian]

I get tons of messages asking me what products I used on my hair in the 3 years I have been natural to make my hair grow. When I am asked this,I am stumped because I have never used a product since being natural that was supposed to make my hair grow. I don't believe there's ANY product out there that increases growth- they only enhance (or maintain) what you already have growing out of your scalp. Any thoughts?

I just find it hard to believe that ALL the people who have reported faster growth from trying out growth products are lying, blind, ignorant about their own growth rate, unfortunately mistaken, delusional or whatever else you'd have to believe in order to explain away their results. Even if it's only a small amount of extra growth, it's still a positive result. Just because someone isn't now getting an inch per month doesn't mean their new growth rate isn't an improvement over the old. And that's what you're looking for--improvement. Not a comparison to the worldwide average or to supergrower81's monthly growth. Just a comparison to the intial growth rate before trying the MTG or MN or whatever. All you can do is report what happened in your own specific case. The fact that some people have quick hair growth without growth aids or that some people tried stuff and it didn't have any effect doesn't mean that no growth product anywhere will work for anybody. I mean, seriously, what the heck kind of logic is that?

I also think some people get hung up on the word "caused" if someone says "product x or vitamin y caused my hair to grow." Of course your hair grows on its own but there are plenty of things that can slow it down. If using something corrects an ihibitory growing environment (which you may not have even known you had), then stating that explicitly versus saying "____ grew my hair faster" is really just a matter of semantic hairsplitting. Causing to grow vs. allowing to grow is just a half empty vs. half full type thing when you consider what the result is.

 

[ayoung]

I just find it hard to believe that ALL the people who have reported faster growth from trying out growth products are lying, blind, ignorant about their own growth rate, unfortunately mistaken, delusional or whatever else you'd have to believe in order to explain away their results. Even if it's only a small amount of extra growth, it's still a positive result. Just because someone isn't now getting an inch per month doesn't mean their new growth rate isn't an improvement over the old. And that's what you're looking for--improvement.
Not a comparison to the worldwide average or to supergrower81's monthly growth. Just a comparison to the intial growth rate before trying the MTG or MN or whatever. All you can do is report what happened in your own specific case. The fact that some people have quick hair growth without growth aids or that some people tried stuff and it didn't have any effect doesn't mean that no growth product anywhere will work for anybody. I mean, seriously, what the heck kind of logic is that?
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BC---this post On point!

 

[1QTPie]

For the record I went from 2 inches or less to 12 or more in about a year. I didn't do anything protective or special, all I did was workout.

 

[Sistaslick]

I'm staying out of this one

 

[FlyyGyrl]

I just find it hard to believe that ALL the people who have reported faster growth from trying out growth products are lying, blind, ignorant about their own growth rate, unfortunately mistaken, delusional or whatever else you'd have to believe in order to explain away their results. Even if it's only a small amount of extra growth, it's still a positive result. Just because someone isn't now getting an inch per month doesn't mean their new growth rate isn't an improvement over the old. And that's what you're looking for--improvement. Not a comparison to the worldwide average or to supergrower81's monthly growth. Just a comparison to the intial growth rate before trying the MTG or MN or whatever. All you can do is report what happened in your own specific case. The fact that some people have quick hair growth without growth aids or that some people tried stuff and it didn't have any effect doesn't mean that no growth product anywhere will work for anybody. I mean, seriously, what the heck kind of logic is that?

Thank you. ITA.

 

[Keen]

Again (I'm ready for the stones), Hair growth rate is heridity. Some people's hair grow faster than others. So just because Bubbly's hair grows that long that fast doesnt mean that's how fast everyone else' hair should grow, everything else being equal.

I do believe that products can increase growth rate.

 

[FlyyGyrl]

I'm staying out of this one

Speak Sista! Speak! We like your comments, even if you disagree.

 

[Bees]

Hair growth is just like life. Some folk were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. With a little extra TLC and behavior modification...it knows no bounds. That's like saying poor people will never amount to anything. Quit putting limits on yourself.

 

[Dogmd]

I am sorry, but as a medical professional I HAVE TO ENTIRELY DISAGREE with your theory. There are numerous hair products on the market now specifically researched and scientifically proven to promote hair growth and regrowth especially for MEN who ar BALD!! Rogaine is one of these products!! It is unfortunate that for women, the research lacks in this area... but for the countless women on this hairsite who have had sucessful hair growth and regrowth with individual products...this theory lacks in its validity.

 

[Super_Hero_Girl]

I agree with you, Bublnbrnsuga. That's one reason why I never follow the latest "instant hair" hype.

 

[Honi]

Excellent point! However, once Rogaine is discontinued the hair loss process starts again and you lose all your growth. That is with balding men. People with no balding problems I cannot comment on.

I think if there are products on the market that claim to promote growth that it would be negligible at best but it's kinda hard to measure as you would have to predict what phase your growth cycle is in (I'm just thinking out loud). If it's in the growing phase then I can see perhaps a boost in the amount of growth seen.

I am sorry, but as a medical professional I HAVE TO ENTIRELY DISAGREE with your theory. There are numerous hair products on the market now specifically researched and scientifically proven to promote hair growth and regrowth especially for MEN who ar BALD!! Rogaine is one of these products!! It is unfortunate that for women, the research lacks in this area... but for the countless women on this hairsite who have had sucessful hair growth and regrowth with individual products...this theory lacks in its validity.

 

[jasmine26]

i believe that there are hair growth aids that promote and increase growth. however i don't like to get caught up in the latest fads in hair growth.i'm content that my hair will grow when it decides to grow at the rate it wants to grow. I'm content with that, i don't have the time, energy, or desire to create a growth regimen with new products or vitamins. To people that like to increase their growth by using such methods, more power to you!

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

I agree with you and I've been wanting to say this but I thought people would argue me down. Long ago I stopped thinking that there was some miracle product to help my hair grow faster. I have learned that my hair will grow as fast as it wants but that there are products that will help maintain the growth instead of my hair shedding and me thinking my hair hasn't grown.

Girl, I don't care if folks get mad I think we need to stop believing the hype, I mean come on. If these products made your hurr grow, who would be on the LHCF? Women all around would have hair down to their bootays!

 

[Zeal]

...... When i dont use vitamins and treat my hair the same since i joined the hair board i noticed my hair grows slower. for instance cornrows i can keep a whole month or 6weeks but with the topical and non-topical aids i cant keep more than a week or 2 and get the same growth i would in 2 weeks than i would get in 2 months imagine the faces of my braiders seeing me come back after just 2 weeks with a head full of hair and the 2 weeks right after until they ask me to write down and bring my biotin and stuff

....... Many topical products using african herbs, protein, essential oils,sulfur have been known and used for ages to grow hair and better the conditions of the hair and help with alopecia, slow growth or regrowth be it minoval, nioxin follicle booster and they always worked with me like i said not everything worked depending on bodies you have to try different things and see what works for each

That's my Ekomba


Some people's grow faster some don't. It's all a matter of who it is.

 

[amy1234]

I'm going to say that I used my own secret potion
yes, this is evil but at least they will listen

 

[kristina]

Actually there is a point to be had on both sides
I argee with BBS that at this point there have been no scientific studies on any of the products toted here to promote growth proving that they increase growth (or in some cases are safe for daily topical use). So, me personally being skeptical, cheap and lazy (and observing that the miracle product of the moment changes with the seasons on this and other hairboards), I choose not to use them. But on the other hand, most discoveries made are by accident (think viagra or tend skin (which was discovered when a black dentist patient)), so I'm not going to discredit the testimonies of others or dismiss as delusional the folks that use the products.
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting more growth and believing (in the absence of hard verifiable evidence) that product x grows hair. BUT I think the obsession with increasing the growth rate is problematic when some(!) people fail to take steps to get an routine that allows them to retain length (by avoiding manipulation to reduce break/damage and moisturing)- in that case the focus is a bit misplaced imho.

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

Actually there is a point to be had on both sides
I argee with BBS that at this point there have been no scientific studies on any of the products toted here to promote growth proving that they increase growth (or in some cases are safe for daily topical use). So, me personally being skeptical, cheap and lazy (and observing that the miracle product of the moment changes with the seasons on this and other hairboards), I choose not to use them. But on the other hand, most discoveries made are by accident (think viagra or tend skin (which was discovered when a black dentist patient)), so I'm not going to discredit the testimonies of others or dismiss as delusional the folks that use the products.
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting more growth and believing (in the absence of hard verifiable evidence) that product x grows hair. BUT I think the obsession with increasing the growth rate is problematic when some(!) people fail to take steps to get an routine that allows them to retain length (by avoiding manipulation to reduce break/damage and moisturing)- in that case the focus is a bit misplaced imho.

Here's my thing (reinterating what you stated,basically) can one actually attribute hair growth to a specific product? Can you actually pinpoint and say ONLY this product made my hair grow, not frequent hair washings, scalp massages (which promote hair growth via increasing circulating blood which is full of nutrients), moisturizing, eating right, exercising, low maintenance styles...catch my drift?

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

Hair growth is just like life. Some folk were not born with a silver spoon in their mouths. With a little extra TLC and behavior modification...it knows no bounds. That's like saying poor people will never amount to anything. Quit putting limits on yourself.

No comparison.

 

[Bublnbrnsuga]

I am sorry, but as a medical professional I HAVE TO ENTIRELY DISAGREE with your theory. There are numerous hair products on the market now specifically researched and scientifically proven to promote hair growth and regrowth especially for MEN who ar BALD!! Rogaine is one of these products!! It is unfortunate that for women, the research lacks in this area... but for the countless women on this hairsite who have had sucessful hair growth and regrowth with individual products...this theory lacks in its validity.

You are a medical professional? So am I- a pharmacist and you mentioned two main points- SCIENTIFICALLY AND RESEARCHED!
While the mechanism of action is unknown concerning the topical applications of rogaine (minoxidil), internally it is a vasodilator that can lower resistant types of blood pressure. Vasodilation= increased circulation= more nutrients flowing throughout the body. I believe this may be the case with topical minoxidil- increased circulation to the scalp, similar to regular scalp massages.