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Old 02-20-2009, 12:29 PM
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Default protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

i did this and now my hair is breaking/shedding and i don't know why. i washed it again used a dc and it's still happening.

i used aubrey organic's gbp conditioner and then did a deep conditioner with ntm recovery mask the first time and noticed that my hair was drier than usual and nothing helped. i was surprised it was so dry b/c i always prepoo with sweet almond oil. so, i washed again and used my regular shampoo (abba pure moisture) and another conditioner without any protein (mop extreme moisture). and, still i continue to break. when i comb, hair comes out. i usually just bun everyday except for valentine's day and early this week when i had an interview.

any thoughts or ideas?

i guess you're not supposed to use protein immediately after a relaxer?? is this correct? when do when you suggest i do a protein treatment?

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Old 02-20-2009, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

Hi B & L!!

Hmmm...GPB is a mild protein condish and 2 weeks is long enough to wait to use a protein condish...shucks, I would do a protein condish 2-3 days after a relaxer and have not had any issues...

I am wondering if you are having some porosity issues as you are using some good products...
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

Wow.

Did you clarify?

Seems like you have some buildup that prevents the moisture from getting in.

When I have breakage, despite DC-ing faithfully, I clarify. And it works, too.

Hope that helps.
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

You might need to clarify. You used GPB and then followed with NTM mask. Then the next wash you did a oil prepoo and washed with a mild shampoo. GPB is a protein conditioner but it also can moisturize so you might not have needed to follow it.
How long did you leave it on? How long did you leave in the NTM mask?
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

thanks for responding, ladies. i appreciate it.

can you tell me more about porosity issues?i'll do a board search as well.

any recommendations for a clarifying shampoo? one that isn't too harsh?

i left the gpb on for about 10 minutes and the ntm mask for about 10 minutes.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:25 PM
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thanks for responding, ladies. any recommendations for a clarifying shampoo? one that isn't too harsh?
I use an inexpensive bottle of Suave Daily Clarifying; I'll use that up and buy something a little "less" harsh. But it works well for me. I read that Kenra makes a really nice one.

I use only one sudsing of that and follow up with a more moisturizing poo. But then I make sure to DC afterward for at least 20 minutes.
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Old 02-20-2009, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

thx for the detail, pink gator. i'm in a bit of rush so i went to target and picked up some nexxus aloe rid - their clarifying shampoo. i was looking for suave but didn't see any. so, i'll do what you suggest, wash once and use my abba pure moisture shampoo and dc.
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

I have used protein 3-5 days following my relaxer without any problem. You just need to follow by a moisturizing conditioner. Did you have any problems before the protein treatment? Could you be overprocessed? If so, protein would be idea to strengthen your hair back. Hopefully you will get it under control.
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

Are you sure it's breakage you are experiencing and not just normal shedding? You said that you bun everyday- do you comb through you hair everyday? Remember that you hair sheds constantly. If you are not combing or brushing through that to get rid of the shed hairs, then you will definitley see a build up of shed hair from between the time of your last wash and the next one.

Just want to put that out there.
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Hi B & L!!

Hmmm...GPB is a mild protein condish and 2 weeks is long enough to wait to use a protein condish...shucks, I would do a protein condish 2-3 days after a relaxer and have not had any issues...

I am wondering if you are having some porosity issues as you are using some good products...
You wait 2-3 days.... giiiirl, I dc with it immediately after I relax!!

I have not had any problems.
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I have used protein 3-5 days following my relaxer without any problem. You just need to follow by a moisturizing conditioner. Did you have any problems before the protein treatment? Could you be overprocessed? If so, protein would be idea to strengthen your hair back. Hopefully you will get it under control.

i didn't have a problem before and i'm really surprised this is happening now. my hair doesn't generally break or shed like this. i'm not overprocessed. i didn't relax after i was almost 12 weeks post. i did follow with a moisturizing conditioner both times i washed - once ntm mask and the next time mop extreme moisture.
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Are you sure it's breakage you are experiencing and not just normal shedding? You said that you bun everyday- do you comb through you hair everyday? Remember that you hair sheds constantly. If you are not combing or brushing through that to get rid of the shed hairs, then you will definitley see a build up of shed hair from between the time of your last wash and the next one.

Just want to put that out there.
maybe that's it. it's just freaking me out because when i do comb my hair comes with it. thx.
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You wait 2-3 days.... giiiirl, I dc with it immediately after I relax!!

I have not had any problems.
LOL...Girl everytime I see your name - "Top Notch - not the most but the less..."(lol)

I do a protein before I neutralize and then do a moisturizing after I neutralize -since "Protein is my Friend" I will definitely try it after my next retouch or just mix it up...
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

maybe you may have needed (or still need) stronger protein??
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i am going to use the clarifying shampoo because i'm beginning to think that may be part of the problem. if that doesn't work, i'll definitely pick this up. thanks for the recommendation.
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LOL...Girl everytime I see your name - "Top Notch - not the most but the less..."(lol)

I do a protein before I neutralize and then do a moisturizing after I neutralize -since "Protein is my Friend" I will definitely try it after my next retouch or just mix it up...
Is that a commercial? I've that name since my vein days in high school!
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Default Re: protein treatment 2 weeks after relaxer=bad idea?

Okay I'm no expert but I think you got relaxer trouble not protein trouble chances r the relaxer was old, not mixed well, the neutrilizer was not used or something to that effect. I will do a apple cider vinegar rinse ASAP. then use a moisturizer then a mild protein like aphogee 2 minute
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I usually do it 2-3 days after and follow up with a DC that includes Roux prosity (love this stuff)

Off subject topnotch your growth is amazing.
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^^^...what she and Ciclypayne said. The Roux Porosity Control is meant to bring the PH back to your hair and fix problems associated with porous hair. It can't hurt.
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