MHM Hangout

DDTexlaxed

TRANSITION OVER! 11-22-14
Sounds great! What products are you using, I'd love to not have to use gel to seal and still have nice defined and soft hair. I have a TWA too...

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I am still using gel because I haven't found anything I could use yet. :nono: However I am using KCCC as approved gel, but surprisingly, Cantu Shine and Define custard defines my curls better than KCCC! If I don't feel like doing the steps, I use shea Moisture black castor oil shampoo and then use diluted TJTT conditioner and gel. I still achieve soft hair and ultimate curl definition. I believe the combo off ACV/benonite is the key to healthy hair. The SM castor oil line is what I will be using because the product has ACV in it. The shampoo alone left me with the same effect as MHM does. I am experimenting with these products because I don't want to have to always buy my products online.:ohwell: Last night, I didn't use any product. Just water and the Cantu gel. I woke up with helmet hard hair. :rolleyes: I did it because today I was putting in my demi color and didn't want to screw anything up. After, I used the diluted conditioner and KCCC. Hair returned to soft defined curls. It just helps me to see the difference when my hair is hydrated vs my old method.:yep:
 
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KiWiStyle

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I am still using gel because I haven't found anything I could use yet. :nono: However I am using KCCC as approved gel, but surprisingly, Cantu Shine and Define custard defines my curls better than KCCC! If I don't feel like doing the steps, I use shea Moisture black castor oil shampoo and then use diluted TJTT conditioner and gel. I still achieve soft hair and ultimate curl definition. I believe the combo off ACV/benonite is the key to healthy hair. The SM castor oil line is what I will be using because the product has ACV in it. The shampoo alone left me with the same effect as MHM does. I am experimenting with these products because I don't want to have to always buy my products online.:ohwell: Last night, I didn't use any product. Just water and the Cantu gel. I woke up with helmet hard hair. :rolleyes: I did it because today I was putting in my demi color and didn't want to screw anything up. After, I used the diluted conditioner and KCCC. Hair returned to soft defined curls. It just helps me to see the difference when my hair is hydrated vs my old method.:yep:

Thanks! I'm using KCCC too and I have a demi color...I wonder if they is drying in itself? FYI I wake up with helmet hard hair too, Lol...I just spritz with water so it'll spring back up and go.

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hairtimes5

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I've mentioned my love of Hello Curly on here a number of times. I tried Curls Goddess Curls today and all I have to say is Goodbye Curly! Same results, better pricetag.

Used acv for step 1 today, adding more water than I usually do. One thing I like about using bs for step 1 is how my dc melts right into my hair afterwards. I don't get that when using acv since my cuticles aren't lifted. My hair shedding was minimal. I trimmed my hair last week and even though detangling has been easier with this method, it was even easier today. I trimmed curl by curl which was pretty tedious and I wasn't sure if I did a good job but I could definitely tell the difference today.
 

tashboog

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I think I'm highER po than most here. Let me research lemon juice in hair (ph and such) and get back to you. I'm always looking for another cleansing method. :yep:
Honey Bee thanks for responding to my post :grin:. The lemon juice doesn't harm the hair, it just lowers the conditioner pH and it's a natural clarifying agent. It's in the curly girl method handbook for when you need to remove chlorine from your hair after swimming and if you have hard water. Please feel free to do your own research, then if your okay with it can you please let me know how it worked for your hair :grin:.
 

DDTexlaxed

TRANSITION OVER! 11-22-14
@Honey Bee thanks for responding to my post :grin:. The lemon juice doesn't harm the hair, it just lowers the conditioner pH and it's a natural clarifying agent. It's in the curly girl method handbook for when you need to remove chlorine from your hair after swimming and if you have hard water. Please feel free to do your own research, then if your okay with it can you please let me know how it worked for your hair :grin:.

Lemon juice also lightens your hair, like honey does. Be careful because it can also strip the hair like ACV.
 

tashboog

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Lemon juice also lightens your hair, like honey does. Be careful because it can also strip the hair like ACV.
Lemon juice is no different from using baking soda or ACV. All three are clarifying agents and should be used with your own precautions. The conditioner is the buffer just like it is for the baking soda. At the end of the day, you should only use what your psyche is comfortable with.
 

KiWiStyle

Realtor & Foodie
Honey Bee thanks for responding to my post :grin:. The lemon juice doesn't harm the hair, it just lowers the conditioner pH and it's a natural clarifying agent. It's in the curly girl method handbook for when you need to remove chlorine from your hair after swimming and if you have hard water. Please feel free to do your own research, then if your okay with it can you please let me know how it worked for your hair :grin:.

Thanks for this info. I was just today wondering how to cleanse mineral deposits from hair from swimming and hard water using the mhm.

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Honey Bee

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@Honey Bee thanks for responding to my post :grin:. The lemon juice doesn't harm the hair, it just lowers the conditioner pH and it's a natural clarifying agent. It's in the curly girl method handbook for when you need to remove chlorine from your hair after swimming and if you have hard water. Please feel free to do your own research, then if your okay with it can you please let me know how it worked for your hair :grin:.
tashboog, I've heard of people using it and heard it recommended in different reggies, but I like to do a little research when using raw ingredients. I mean, at least give it an hour in google before smearing it all over and wondering why my skin is turning green. :lol: I also test the ph of every. single. concoction I mix up. I usually have a loose idea going in, but it never hurts to check. :up:

My grandmother used to say, 'Take care of it up front so it don't stick out behind.' It's become one of my core precepts because it's applicable to everything in life, ie, research ish before you do it, including men :rolleyes:, relationships, mixing ish up in my kitchen, etc, so you're not surprised by what happens. Or, be honest and upfront so that the truth doesn't seep out embarrassingly later. Really, it's advice for all seasons. Old country people be on point with those little bon-mots. :lol:
 

Honey Bee

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I trimmed my hair last week and even though detangling has been easier with this method, it was even easier today. I trimmed curl by curl which was pretty tedious and I wasn't sure if I did a good job but I could definitely tell the difference today.
I was considering getting it done professionally, but a large part of this journey, for me, is self-sufficiency, so I'd rather figure it out for myself.

To that end, I've been lightly researching (an hour or so every wk). The trick, imo, is to have a good sense of balance. You don't have to think about it as 'curl by curl', imo, it's more about the shape of the end result, really. It occured to me yesterday that one particular pic would be perfect to literally print out and draw on. It was just a frontward facing pic against a white background. I could use that pic to chart out the shape I most prefer, do a wng, and then just do it.

:look: What y'all think?
 

hairtimes5

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I was considering getting it done professionally, but a large part of this journey, for me, is self-sufficiency, so I'd rather figure it out for myself.

To that end, I've been lightly researching (an hour or so every wk). The trick, imo, is to have a good sense of balance. You don't have to think about it as 'curl by curl', imo, it's more about the shape of the end result, really. It occured to me yesterday that one particular pic would be perfect to literally print out and draw on. It was just a frontward facing pic against a white background. I could use that pic to chart out the shape I most prefer, do a wng, and then just do it.

:look: What y'all think?

I actually didn't set out to trim curl by curl. I tried to trim it the same way you trim straight hair but the curls kept popping out from the sections I was holding between my fingers so I had no choice. I usually go to a stylist for trims so I have a nice shape already. It looked even better when I finished. I was pleasantly surprised.

OAN, I don't check the length of my hair bc I really don't care. I want to cut it actually but hubby wants me to grow it out long like when we first got married, dude I told you that I was cutting my hair off when I turned 40, but that's another story. Anyway...my daughter was pulling one of my curls and watching it spring back and I felt her hand on my bra strap. I asked her if that's where my hair was and she said yes. Wowsers! I had no idea. I am really retaining length with this method.
 

Honey Bee

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I actually didn't set out to trim curl by curl. I tried to trim it the same way you trim straight hair but the curls kept popping out from the sections I was holding between my fingers so I had no choice. I usually go to a stylist for trims so I have a nice shape already. It looked even better when I finished. I was pleasantly surprised.
:lachen: Curly hair definitely has a personality of its own.


So you started out with a shape and were, basically, 'sprucing things up'? That makes sense. :yep:
 

Smiley79

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My daughrer and I are in the middle of the full MHM regimen today (Cherry Lola trtmt-Step 5). We started since 3 this afternoon and we're only half way done. lolll, smh. Hopefully I'll have time to show pics tomorrow.
 

Lisa

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:pepper::love3::happydance:OMG!! I've been passing threads on this method for I don't know how long. Thank you faithVA because your link to Pinkecube's blog I started this method! I just rinsed out step 1 (I used the baking soda) and my hair felt GREAT. I could finger comb my hair (while leaning over the sink rinsing out step 1 I could take my fingers and pull them threw my hair from the back to the front!!) :blush:

And I hadn't started step 2! But let me tell you I could feel such GREAT slip while putting in step 2 I'm almost afraid to go to step 3! Because I'm so ecstatic with where I am now but the thought of this getting better is too much to take!!! :bouncegre:trampolin:woot::notworthy:love:

I've already mixed up my bentonite clay, honey and olive oil!! I have my hot head deep conditioning heat cap on (didn't feel like lugging the dryer downstairs... I might regret this but :ohwell: I can't wait to see how my hair turns out!

I could just :whip: :slap::cry: myself because I didn't try this earlier! I kept going past it because it sounded too hard or too complicated and I didn't want to take the time to read/do it! How stupid was I? :angry2::swearing:

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!!!
 
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Cattypus1

All loced up...
Curls Godess Curls is a keeper. I love it for my WNG! It must have been the bentonite the other day. Did a full MHM today starting with CLT and using rhassoul this time. My tangles melt like butter using this method and I really love the Naturellegrow conditioners for the DC step. I am finger detangling and not getting any breakage at all, I mean none. I can feel and see my curls all the way to my scalp in some places. I can't stop touching them.
 

Lisa

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OK! I've finished with my hair (I did a wet set) :ohwell:

I took pictures but I'm a little hesitant to post them because last time I posted pictures all I got was...YOUR HAIR IS SO THIN... :ohwell: :perplexed:blush::nono:

Yes, I know! I wasn't blessed with the thick luscious hair of some of my fellow LHCF sisters. So thin hair and all here goes!

It has been 8 months since I've had a relaxer on my hair and 6 months since I touched up my hair line (I think I'm going to drop the hair line thing because that has long since grown out) :lol:

I have no idea what my hair typing is but if I had to guess I think I'm a mix of 3C and 4A with high porosity.

Sorry I don't know how to adjust the size





I think I have a little clumping...don't I?




:lol: Just ignore my red flexi rods in this last picture. I can't wait until I grow out those relaxed ends!!! I think (and my mother told me) my head is too big to do a big chop! I need hair on this big head! :lol:
 

Duchess007

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Finished my regi.

ACV rinse, let it sit for 15 minutes, then rinsed.
Applied DC, left it on overnight.
Rinsed DC, applied VO5 and rinsed out ~50%.
Applied ceramide oil mix to seal.
Twisted in 10-12 two-strand twists and bantu'd the ends.

My hair is tied up with a silk wrap under a turban. Will leave that 'til church time, then remove the turban and throw on a wig to go out. When I get back, my hair should be damp. I'll seal over the oil with my Lusti Indian Hemp and put the scarf and turban back on til tomorrow. Monday, I'll GHE overnight. Tuesday I'll do the regi again.

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KiWiStyle

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Curls Godess Curls is a keeper. I love it for my WNG! It must have been the bentonite the other day. Did a full MHM today starting with CLT and using rhassoul this time. My tangles melt like butter using this method and I really love the Naturellegrow conditioners for the DC step. I am finger detangling and not getting any breakage at all, I mean none. I can feel and see my curls all the way to my scalp in some places. I can't stop touching them.

OMG, this just got me so excited! I gotta pick up that Goddess Curls and order the Natural Grow...I definitely need a more moisturizing DC, the watered down DC are OK but nothing life changing. I'm so happy you're reaching max hydration!!

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KiWiStyle

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OK! I've finished with my hair (I did a wet set) :ohwell:

I took pictures but I'm a little hesitant to post them because last time I posted pictures all I got was...YOUR HAIR IS SO THIN... :ohwell: :perplexed:blush::nono:

Yes, I know! I wasn't blessed with the thick luscious hair of some of my fellow LHCF sisters. So thin hair and all here goes!

It has been 8 months since I've had a relaxer on my hair and 6 months since I touched up my hair line (I think I'm going to drop the hair line thing because that has long since grown out) :lol:

I have no idea what my hair typing is but if I had to guess I think I'm a mix of 3C and 4A with high porosity.

Sorry I don't know how to adjust the size

I think I have a little clumping...don't I?

:lol: Just ignore my red flexi rods in this last picture. I can't wait until I grow out those relaxed ends!!! I think (and my mother told me) my head is too big to do a big chop! I need hair on this big head! :lol:

Lisa Your hair is gorgeous, thin and all! I can't believe you recurved those types of discouraging comments, people can be so mean. I'm happy you found the regimen and its working for you and please continue posting pictures!

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KiWiStyle

Realtor & Foodie
I just fineshed the steps after using Rhassoul clay for the first time...this clay has made so much of a difference! I wish I had been using it since day one but hey, it taught me something. My W&G is more defined and my coils are longer in some spots... one side of my nape was stubborn and wouldn't curl for nothing and now I see progress. I used my usual products (kckt and kccc) for steps 4 & 5 and its drying softer.

I use lot of the kckt and then use my shower head to remove some of the product and to make my hair drippy wet to apply the kccc so I think this is helping a lot too. I can't wait to get another trim and lining next week, it should get rid of my scab hair though I don't have much of it anymore. I'm loving my TWA and I'm loving it on ME!!!

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aharri23

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I just fineshed the steps after using Rhassoul clay for the first time...this clay has made so much of a difference! I wish I had been using it since day one but hey, it taught me something. My W&G is more defined and my coils are longer in some spots... one side of my nape was stubborn and wouldn't curl for nothing and now I see progress. I used my usual products (kckt and kccc) for steps 4 & 5 and its drying softer.

I use lot of the kckt and then use my shower head to remove some of the product and to make my hair drippy wet to apply the kccc so I think this is helping a lot too. I can't wait to get another trim and lining next week, it should get rid of my scab hair though I don't have much of it anymore. I'm loving my TWA and I'm loving it on ME!!!

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I really want to try the rhassoul ! Will definitely buy after I get my refund check
 

hairtimes5

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Yesterday I got the Curly Girl Handbook by Lorraine Massey from the library and read it. I'm even more motivated to strive for fully hydrated hair. I woke up really early this morning and couldn't get back to sleep so I decided to do my hair even though I just did it yesterday. So for step 1 I mixed castile soap, conditioner and water and left it on for about 2-3 mins. I rinsed and co-washed, then using the scrunching method described in the book I got rid of the excess conditioner and left the rest in. I then sealed with gel. Lately my wng's have been looking a little off and I couldn't figure out why. I have been using very little gel since my curls have become more hydrated so I thought I'll try using more gel. Big difference! My hair has so much more shine today and just looks better overall. Also for that stubborn top section of mine I bent my head over and scrunched the gel in, tossed my head back so the curls on top would fall to the side but slightly to the back also, then I added 2 duck bill clips in the front at the root for height. I love how my hair dried, I was getting so tired of that side part.

So about Curls Goddess Curls, the second ingredient is sorbitol which is a humectant like glycerin and panthenol. Should that matter?
 

cherryhair123

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Would this benefit a long term transitioner? I'm only 14 weeks in but that new growth is super dry. I'm wondering would it be too much moisture for the permed hair and cause it too break off.
 

hairtimes5

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Knew I was forgetting something...So about the clay step, I'm not sure when or if I should do this step. I know the purpose of it but unlike most of you I don't get soft, nice feeling hair afterwards. Mine doesn't feel bad but it doesn't feel good either. And even after adding leave-in it causes my gel to not have any slip, it goes on my hair really squeaky. At first I thought it was the gel, but after doing the clay step first once before and not doing it at all today, I realize it's not the gel, it's my hair after using clay. And I've used bentonite (too drying), morrocan red, rhassoul, and Terresentials. Just wondering if I really need it, it doesn't give me any more clumping or definition than conditioner does. I'm thinking of either making it the first step or doing it occasionally as the third.
 

Duchess007

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^I'm with you. My old regimen called for clay once a month or so, but using it so often isn't doing great things for my hair-it actually feels like my moisture levels have to "recover" from that step. I'm dropping it for a while.
 

trebell

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Hi ladies!
I've been using this method since cutting my hair off last summer. I have yet to reach max hydration, however, I don't do the method every 3 days. I have two questions: when using the clay why does my hair feel like there's a layer of film on it? What can I do about my roots at my crown being frizzy? Lastly, I don't know my hair type and I think I have low porosity hair. Attached picture is leave in and oil. I usually apply kc gel but I was too lazy today. Tia.

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trebell

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Knew I was forgetting something...So about the clay step, I'm not sure when or if I should do this step. I know the purpose of it but unlike most of you I don't get soft, nice feeling hair afterwards. Mine doesn't feel bad but it doesn't feel good either. And even after adding leave-in it causes my gel to not have any slip, it goes on my hair really squeaky. At first I thought it was the gel, but after doing the clay step first once before and not doing it at all today, I realize it's not the gel, it's my hair after using clay. And I've used bentonite (too drying), morrocan red, rhassoul, and Terresentials. Just wondering if I really need it, it doesn't give me any more clumping or definition than conditioner does. I'm thinking of either making it the first step or doing it occasionally as the third.

I'm having issues with this step also. My hair feels weird like there's film on it.
 

faithVA

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Knew I was forgetting something...So about the clay step, I'm not sure when or if I should do this step. I know the purpose of it but unlike most of you I don't get soft, nice feeling hair afterwards. Mine doesn't feel bad but it doesn't feel good either. And even after adding leave-in it causes my gel to not have any slip, it goes on my hair really squeaky. At first I thought it was the gel, but after doing the clay step first once before and not doing it at all today, I realize it's not the gel, it's my hair after using clay. And I've used bentonite (too drying), morrocan red, rhassoul, and Terresentials. Just wondering if I really need it, it doesn't give me any more clumping or definition than conditioner does. I'm thinking of either making it the first step or doing it occasionally as the third.

What's your recipe and how long are you leaving it on?

If you like your hair the way it is without clay then there is no reason to use the clay. It sounds like you would be fine with just a regular curly girl method. Is there a reason why you are doing mhm?
 

aharri23

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Knew I was forgetting something...So about the clay step, I'm not sure when or if I should do this step. I know the purpose of it but unlike most of you I don't get soft, nice feeling hair afterwards. Mine doesn't feel bad but it doesn't feel good either. And even after adding leave-in it causes my gel to not have any slip, it goes on my hair really squeaky. At first I thought it was the gel, but after doing the clay step first once before and not doing it at all today, I realize it's not the gel, it's my hair after using clay. And I've used bentonite (too drying), morrocan red, rhassoul, and Terresentials. Just wondering if I really need it, it doesn't give me any more clumping or definition than conditioner does. I'm thinking of either making it the first step or doing it occasionally as the third.

My hair feels squeaky after the clay step too. I have to add a lot of leave in for my hair to get back to normal. I'm thinking about making it step 1.
 
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