Low Porosity Support Thread

[Evolving78]

shortdub78 Thank you! I don't have any at home, but I can pick some up. Is this the liquid soap in the large bottle?

yes it is the liquid! i got a sample size bottle from target and all you need is several drops.

 

[faithVA]

I use globs of product as well. I can't even understand how a pea size works on hair unless it is something like oil. I've seen it on yt videos and I am amazed. Maybe where your hair is properly moisturized you can do that

If I am going to do a double application, I may use less the first time because I know I am going to apply it again. I have found that double applying works better than applying in globs. But sometimes I am impatient.

 

[FoxxyLocs]

I use globs of product, except oils and heat protectant. Those I use sparingly, although I still use more them they recommend because my hair is so dense.

 

[blackeyes31626]

Anyone have a leave in and daily moisturizer they simply cannot do without as a low porosity head? Just curious to see what else is out there.

The Dew or cj sl

My coarse strands are extra wiry today . I played around with too much protein. For whatever reason my hair refuses to differentiate between softening proteins and strengthening proteins. The conditioner had hydrolyzed Quinoa in it that I thought is a softening protein, but like wheat protein it made my hair super wiry, elastic-feeling, and frizzy. I am definitely not doing henna for a few weeks. Hopefully, it will be back to normal after a few co-washes.

What protein product(s) did you use?

 

[faithVA]

Any of you ladies, let your hair dry, dampen a bit and then seal?

Just curious. When I try to seal my hair while wet with an oil or a butter, my hair frizzes. But if I let my hair dry then mist with a little water and then seal it seems to take much better.

I guess its time for a test: Wet hair, damp hair, almost dry, dry. I will try this on my 4b section on the side.

 

[FoxxyLocs]

Any of you ladies, let your hair dry, dampen a bit and then seal?

Just curious. When I try to seal my hair while wet with an oil or a butter, my hair frizzes. But if I let my hair dry then mist with a little water and then seal it seems to take much better.

I guess its time for a test: Wet hair, damp hair, almost dry, dry. I will try this on my 4b section on the side.

I do this on non-wash days. I spritz with water before adding a moisturizer and oil to seal before bed. I find that product absorbs better on damp hair.

 

[faithVA]

FoxxyLocs[/USER];16159351]I do this on non-wash days. I spritz with water before adding a moisturizer and oil to seal before bed. I find that product absorbs better on damp hair.

What do you do on wash days? That's usually my primary issue when my hair dries for the first time.

 

[FoxxyLocs]

on wash day I wrap my hair in a t-shirt for a few minutes and then apply my DC. I DC for 1-24 hrs depending on what else I have to do. I don't apply any other moisturizer after my DC, and I don't normally seal my ends that day either. I've been doing regular DCs for 6 or 7 years now, so my hair doesn't dry out after washing anymore, although I do still see a difference when I use the wrong shampoo. But I don't get that crispy, crunchy feeling like I used to.

 

[Blairx0]

Has anyone here tried baking soda in a prepoo mix think the cherry Lola solution sans the amino acid. ( I hope this will work just as well ) I'm thinking of giving baking soda a go this weekend mixed with some cheap conditioner followed by a banana/honey/olive oil dc, but I don't have anything to close/smooth the cuticle is that a really big deal? if so what are some cheap,easy or everyday things I might have to close the cuticle?

Thanks

 

[mg1979]

@mg1979, I have been using KCCC for years and it is my HG, go to styler!! Aloe agrees with my hair greatly. I'm glad it is also working for you.

suns4i6e: Have you ever tried the Kinky Curly Styling Spritz? I'm about half way through the bottle and so far it's not working for me to refresh. I read that some people use it as a styler after the leave in, so I may try that.

It could be the marshmallow root and/or the slippery elm. Both of those are softening agents.

faithVA: Hmmm...been looking into these. I didn't realize you could by marshmallow root and add it to conditioner or use as a rinse. Might have to look into this.

 

[faithVA]

Blairx0[/USER];16162503]Has anyone here tried baking soda in a prepoo mix think the cherry Lola solution sans the amino acid. ( I hope this will work just as well ) I'm thinking of giving baking soda a go this weekend mixed with some cheap conditioner followed by a banana/honey/olive oil dc, but I don't have anything to close/smooth the cuticle is that a really big deal? if so what are some cheap,easy or everyday things I might have to close the cuticle?

Thanks

If you read further up in this thread on page 1 or 2 others talk about this.

 

[Ogoma]

What protein product(s) did you use?

blackeyes31626
Ingredients to Die For Organicals Deep Conditioning Creme

 

[Ogoma]

Any of you ladies, let your hair dry, dampen a bit and then seal?

Just curious. When I try to seal my hair while wet with an oil or a butter, my hair frizzes. But if I let my hair dry then mist with a little water and then seal it seems to take much better.

I guess its time for a test: Wet hair, damp hair, almost dry, dry. I will try this on my 4b section on the side.

Yes, if I am using a product like CJ Smoothing Lotion with a lot of glycerin or my hair will never dry. I haven't noticed any difference because I always use oil first.

 

[Blairx0]

If you read further up in this thread on page 1 or 2 others talk about this.

Thanks. I missed it!

 

[mamaore]

divachyk Mane & Tail detangler is really impressive. It didnt do anything for me initially but its was because of my technique. Now I apply it to dry hair and let it absorb for 10-15 minutes and then detangle.

Ladies I have 2 questions?

Do you all really notice a diference when you use conditioners with cones?

How frizzy is your hair - I don't understand how peoples hair is not frizzy. My hair is always frizzy.

 

[divachyk]

@divachyk Mane & Tail detangler is really impressive. It didnt do anything for me initially but its was because of my technique. Now I apply it to dry hair and let it absorb for 10-15 minutes and then detangle.

Ladies I have 2 questions?

Do you all really notice a diference when you use conditioners with cones?

How frizzy is your hair - I don't understand how peoples hair is not frizzy. My hair is always frizzy.

Thanks mamaore for pointing that out. I normally spritz and comb. I'll wait for 10-15 tonight when I detangle to see if that works best.

 

[faithVA]

@divachyk Mane & Tail detangler is really impressive. It didnt do anything for me initially but its was because of my technique. Now I apply it to dry hair and let it absorb for 10-15 minutes and then detangle.

Ladies I have 2 questions?

Do you all really notice a diference when you use conditioners with cones?

How frizzy is your hair - I don't understand how peoples hair is not frizzy. My hair is always frizzy.

I haven't used a conditioner with cones in a while. But when I did my hair was even dryer than usual and it was impossible to moisturize my hair during the week without washing it again. Here's my disclaimer. Since I am still in so much of a trial and error mode, I cannot completely say that I can't use cones. But I leave them alone because without knowing exactly what I'm doing they make my hair even more dry and brittle.

My hair is ALWAYS frizzy. But sometimes worse than others. Oil makes my hair frizz depending on where I use it in my regimen. But I haven't nailed it down yet Misting my hair with water at anytime is going to be an issue. But I have been doing Conditioner Only for 5 weeks and my hair is less frizzy. The softer my hair is usually the firzzer it is.

 

[suns4i6e]

@suns4i6e: Have you ever tried the Kinky Curly Styling Spritz? I'm about half way through the bottle and so far it's not working for me to refresh. I read that some people use it as a styler after the leave in, so I may try that.


mg1979, yes I do use KCSS. I spray it in my hand, emulsify and spread on my hair's canopy to smooth frizzies. I often add a little water. For a refresher, it has a bit of hold and I know many use it as a stand alone after leave in, but it doesn't perform as well for me that way. I prefer the slimy, mucus like consistency of KCCC for my actual styler. I also use Aubrey Organics Mandarin Magic Moisturizing Jelly as a fresher on dry hair. It is very good for frizz reduction.

 

[mamaore]

faithVA its good to know I'm not alone in the frizz battle. I'm trying to use up all my DC with cones. I really want to try something else apart from Aubrey's products.

I really need a good leave-in conditioner for relaxed hair. I use Elucence right now, but I want to try another product (no cones or parabens). Any recommendations?

 

[faithVA]

@faithVA its good to know I'm not alone in the frizz battle. I'm trying to use up all my DC with cones. I really want to try something else apart from Aubrey's products.

I really need a good leave-in conditioner for relaxed hair. I use Elucence right now, but I want to try another product (no cones or parabens). Any recommendations?

I don't have any recommendations at this time. So far the only conditioners that do work for my hair are AO. I use the Blue Chamomile. I also use Taliah Waajid Herbal Conditioner. But it has mineral oil. But I like it

If I do try anything new I will definitely update here. But I try not to buy too many products. I don't like to stockpile

 

[Evolving78]

faithVA its good to know I'm not alone in the frizz battle. I'm trying to use up all my DC with cones. I really want to try something else apart from Aubrey's products.

I really need a good leave-in conditioner for relaxed hair. I use Elucence right now, but I want to try another product (no cones or parabens). Any recommendations?

Oyin Hair Dew moisturizer! love the stuff and it smells like cookies!

 

[mamaore]

faithVA... I have not tried Blue Chamomile. AO conditioners are not very common here. Sometimes I have to go to different stores to find it. I'll stick with my AOWC then.

I have the Taaliah Waajid Protective modifier mist.. I use it as a moisturiser but I'm not sure its doing anything. I dunno

shortdub78. I have Oyin hair dew-- how do you use it. Ive only used it as a moisturizer on dry hair. Can I use it as a leave -in on wet hair.

I need a product that I can apply after my wash/condition session as a leave in.

 

[faithVA]

@faithVA... I have not tried Blue Chamomile. AO conditioners are not very common here. Sometimes I have to go to different stores to find it. I'll stick with my AOWC then.

I have the Taaliah Waajid Protective modifier mist.. I use it as a moisturiser but I'm not sure its doing anything. I dunno

@shortdub78. I have Oyin hair dew-- how do you use it. Ive only used it as a moisturizer on dry hair. Can I use it as a leave -in on wet hair.

I need a product that I can apply after my wash/condition session as a leave in.

AO Conditioners are the same here. Each store sells 1 or 2 but not the collection. I just happened to stumble upon this one while I was looking for the White Camellia.

For the Taliah Waajid I was referring to the conditioner and not the mist. But honestly now I can't remember what we were discussing

But since you have the Oyin after you get the info from shortdub, let us know how it works out.

 

[Evolving78]

i used to use it on damp or dry hair but i was natural at the time. now i only use liquid moisturizers. the Taliah Waajid Mist Bodifier is really good and doesn't have cones, mineral oil, or parabens. i water it down with distilled water to use on my relaxed hair and to make it spray out more like a mist. it is kind of a thick liquid. the moisturize i use now has the bad stuff in it, but it dries quickly, so i can use it on straight styles without dampening my hair. but i use TW when i am in the house and don't care. really good for natural hair and new growth.

 

[mamaore]

shortdub78, thanks. The Mist bodifier is kind of weird to spray cos its thick. I'll try mixing it with water and see how it that feels.

faithVA, I read your posts on the curly girl method - I nkow you are natural but do you think the method may be beneficial to a relaxed head. I

 

[faithVA]

@shortdub78, thanks. The Mist bodifier is kind of weird to spray cos its thick. I'll try mixing it with water and see how it that feels.

@faithVA, I read your posts on the curly girl method - I nkow you are natural but do you think the method may be beneficial to a relaxed head. I

I know relaxed heads cowash. So that may definitely help you. As far as the conditioner only, you probably could do it. You would probably just want to dilute the conditioner or find a lighter conditioner.

Do you cowash now? How do you wear your hair most of the time?

For my hair, the cowashing several times a week definitely seems to be helping. I am too new to the conditioner only method to say whether leaving conditioner in my hair is really working. I know its not worse.

My experience with leaving conditioner in my hair is similiar to your experience with the Mist Bodifier. I used that before. I just could never tell if it did anything.

 

[blackeyes31626]

I deep conditioned o/n w/ CJ Rehab on Monday. Afterwards, my hair felt coated and only a tad bit moisturized. *sigh* It was so dry yesterday and today I had to cowash.
For some reason it's not penetrating the hair shaft but this conditioner is not thick at all so....iono....smh I should probably just buy a steamer b/c dc isn't working anymore.

 

[faithVA]

I deep conditioned o/n w/ CJ Rehab on Monday. Afterwards, my hair felt coated and only a tad bit moisturized. *sigh* It was so dry yesterday and today I had to cowash.
For some reason it's not penetrating the hair shaft but this conditioner is not thick at all so....iono....smh I should probably just buy a steamer b/c dc isn't working anymore.

Perhaps you need to clarify or detox your hair. I mudwash once a month to get my hair really clean. Have you done that recently?

Or use one of the other tips given of adding castille soap or baking soda to your condish.

 

[MaraWithLove]

My hair has been really easy to work with and please lately-maybe it's the humidity...whenever summer comes around my hair seems so easy, idk. Plus I don't have to use as much product!

mamaore Yes, when I'd use cones my hair would feel dry, making my coarse hair feel more wiry. As far as frizz goes, there are two parts of my hair which will frizz if I don't put enough product (more than the majority of my hair requires): the very front sides and a small part of my crown!

 

[faithVA]

Here is a list of the ph of conditioners (some conditioners)

http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/2012/02/ph-of-conditioners.html

I believe this is MsGG's site.

pH of Conditioners


PRODUCT pH
Brand: Herbal Essences
Hydralicious M 5.0-6.5
Hello Hydration (mask) M 4.5-6.5
Hello Hydration (tall jar) M 5.5-6.5
Totally Twisted M 5.3-6.7
None of Your Frizziness M 4.0-5.5
Long Term Relationship M 4.2-5.6

Brand: Pantene
Pro-V Color Preserve Volume M 4.0-6.0
Pro-V Color Preserve Shine M 3.5-6.5
Pro-V Relaxed and Natural M 5.3-6.7
Curly Hair Series Moisture Renewal M 3.5-6.5

Brand: Aussie
Moist M 4.8-5.8
Moist 3 Minute Miracle Deeeeep Conditioner M 4.8-5.8
Sydney Smooth Treatment 3 Minute Miracle M 3.8-4.7
Brand:Aubrey Organics
Honeysuckle rose T (5.5)

Brand: Tresemme
Naturals Nourishing Conditioner M 4-5
Naturals Conditioner Moisture M 4-5
Moisture M 4-4.8
Conditioner Vitamin E M 3.8-5

Brand: Aphogee
Two Step Protein Treatment M 2.8-3.2
Balancing Moisturizer M 4-5.5

Brand: Suave
Suave (all) M 5-7

Brand:Creme of Nature
Kiwi and Lime T (6.5)

Brand: VO5
Tea Therapy M 3.7-5.2
Moisture Milk Strawberry and Cream M 3.7-5.2
Kiwi Lime Squeeze M 3.7-5.2

Brand: Alberto Balsam
Coconut and Lychee M 3.7-4.5
Mandarin M 3.7-4.5

Brand:Shea Moisture
Restorative Conditioner T (6.5)
Purification Masque T (6.5)

Brand: Jane Carter
Solution Nutrient Replenishing Conditioner T (7)

Brand: Devacurl
DevaCurl One Condition M 4.7
DevaCurl Heaven in Hair M 3.7
DevaCare One Condition M 4.7

Brand: Nexxus
Humectress M 4.5-5.5

Brand:Trader Joe
Nourish Spa T 6.5

Brand: Yes to
Yes to Carrots T (6)

Brand: Giovanni
Smooth as silk T (6.5)
50:50 Balance T (6.5)