GUESS WHat Ladies... Haitian Huile Masketi, Red Palm Oil...and yup Ojon are

the same thing....

I hope this isnt repetative but I searched about Ojon and didnt see this mentioned. Well, why do I say this, well in Puritans Pride catalog, I was flippin through it today and saw Liquid Red Palm Oil.....so Im thinking about getting that one of these days and I turned to my mom and asked her is there such a thing in Haiti...well she says , well yes that is Huile Masketi...which is really Huile Palmasketi.

Just thought I would share and also chuckle at this fact that while this Canadian company has *discovered* the value of this fruit/oil...there are regions in the world that already know its value and they are not exploiting it...... so NOW...

Im buyin my Haitian Oil and calling it a day...never mind $55 dollars on something my momma has in her dresser


Just thought I would share that with you all....Peace and Love

Good to know. Thank you for sharing

That's cool. My mother has gallons of red palm oil since we cook with it.

You are welcome...

Thanks for responding...I thought maybe this was already discussed some where...but I didnt see it so here I go

Champagne...Gallons huh? How does it taste to cook with?

Hmm..good to know. I use Ojon, but its good to know you can get similar ingredients without the $60 price tag

so where can you buy it.

Honeyhips said:

so where can you buy it.

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Why did I look in here?!

CCD,
Girl I was just wonder about this. Especially when Ojon is rakin' in those dollars!!!

If you check out the Ojon site you will note that it refers to the people who use this oil as "the people of beautiful hair." Ithe Miskito Indians. Now we know that "L'huile Miskiti" makes sense for the name of the oil. So now I am off to buy some red palm oil from a friend of mine. I would imagine that African Palm Oil is just as good...it is certainly as red. Bonjour.

Where can you get this stuff in NYC?

tryn2growmyhair said:

Where can you get this stuff in NYC?

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Yes, where can it be bought. Also how does it benefit the hair???

Okay, I need some help with this one. My family is from West Africa and I've grown up with red palm oil my entire life. I cook African food fairly often and have gallons of red palm oil as well as the palm cream (Love, love, palmbutter, for those of you in the know!!! -- also, cassava leaf, eggplant with burned palm oil, okra sauce, or just plain raw palm oil on rice with fried fish and plaintains on the side -- am I making some lips smack? - there must be other west african ladies on this site . . . ).

I spend a lot of time in west africa (Liberia, Ghana, Nigeria) and travel there at least once a year and I've NEVER heard of using palm oil for hair. What's up with that?!

And nobody has said where to buy this stuff. If you can use it for cooking, I assume that it is a light and not heavy oil. I NEED some. And I'm with LaNecia, ya'll are making a sista' go broke. Especially one who is NOT going to be working for 7 1/2 months.

GodMadeMePretty said:

And nobody has said where to buy this stuff. If you can use it for cooking, I assume that it is a light and not heavy oil. I NEED some. And I'm with LaNecia, ya'll are making a sista' go broke. Especially one who is NOT going to be working for 7 1/2 months.

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I get from local tropical food stores (African ones will definately have) if I can't get from family/friends returning from home. I wouldn't call red palm oil "light" -- indeed, depending on how it is strained during preparation, it can be very very thick to the point where it "hardens" when cold (sorta like crisco) and must be heated to liquefy. There are various "grades" of palm oil, with the highest quality being on the lighter side . . . but overall I would say palm oil is a medium to very thick oil, depending on quality.

Neroli said:

I get from local tropical food stores (African ones will definately have) if I can't get from family/friends returning from home. I wouldn't call red palm oil "light" -- indeed, depending on how it is strained during preparation, it can be very very thick to the point where it "hardens" when cold (sorta like crisco) and must be heated to liquefy. There are various "grades" of palm oil, with the highest quality being on the lighter side . . . but overall I would say palm oil is a medium to very thick oil, depending on quality.

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Thanks, Neroli

Jumping on Bmm's bandwagon....
What are the benefits for the hair with this stuff??
I see the websites pointing out the benefits if ingested....

Neroli said:

Okay, I need some help with this one. My family is from West Africa and I've grown up with red palm oil my entire life. I cook African food fairly often and have gallons of red palm oil as well as the palm cream (Love, love, palmbutter, for those of you in the know!!! -- also, cassava leaf, eggplant with burned palm oil, okra sauce, or just plain raw palm oil on rice with fried fish and plaintains on the side -- am I making some lips smack? - there must be other west african ladies on this site . . . ).

I spend a lot of time in west africa (Liberia, Ghana, Nigeria) and travel there at least once a year and I've NEVER heard of using palm oil for hair. What's up with that?!

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I'll be right over. fish plaintains...love that stuff.As for hair stuff... leave it to some marketing "genius " to make some dollars whenever and whereever with whatever.

Ashee said:

Jumping on Bmm's bandwagon....
What are the benefits for the hair with this stuff??

I see the websites pointing out the benefits if ingested.... <img>

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I would like to know, too.

Also, is there a difference between Red Palm Oil and plain 'ol Palm oil? TIA!

It seems that Natural Palm oil is red ... in nature... but the white Palm oil is the same thing...it has just been refined and bleached. We know that usually that refining and bleaching takes a lot of the benefit out of the oil. Natural Unrefined Palm oil has Vitamins and and E in it... in high quantities.

This is from a website about Red Palm:

Vitamin E is one of the most important phytonutrients in edible oils. It consists of eight naturally occurring isomers, a family of four tocopherols (alpha, beta, gamma and delta) and four tocotrienols (alpha, beta, gamma and delta) homologues. While most Vitamin E supplements on the market today are composed of the more common tocopherols, tocotrienols are believed to be a much more potent antioxidant than tocopherols. Tocotrienols are naturally present in most plants, however they are found most abundantly in palm oil extracted from palm fruits. Other sources are rice, wheat germ, oat and barley. It has been shown by published research that alpha-tocotrienol is 40-60 times more potent than alpha-tocopherol in the prevention of lipid peroxidation. Since tocotrienols are a form of Vitamin E found less abundantly in nature than tocopherols, the research on this super anti-oxidant is still recent and ongoing. It is predicted that tocotrienols will become recognized as the new super anti-oxidant in the very near future.


If you can't find it locally. You can buy it online. From Tropical Traditions and some other places.

That's very helpful! Thanks, ThursdayGirl!

Mestiza said:

That's very helpful! Thanks, ThursdayGirl!

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Hey Mestiza,

no problem... let me know how it works out for you...if you try it!

I understand that it has high quantities of carotene in it, thus the red color which reminds me of the okra carrot oil or what happens to carrots when you cook them in a waterless cooker. there is a bright orange red carmelly type of substance that rises to the top and is supposedly full of carotene. Hope this helps. Also Vitamin A which is important for hair growth. Bonjour.

ThursdayGirl said:

Hey Mestiza,

no problem... let me know how it works out for you...if you try it!

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If I try it, I'll definitely let you know. The PJ in me wants to try it, but, I guess I better use up this EVOO and coconut oil b4 they go rancid. LOL!

ccd said:

You are welcome...

Thanks for responding...I thought maybe this was already discussed some where...but I didnt see it so here I go

Champagne...Gallons huh? How does it taste to cook with?

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It doesn't have a taste that stands out to me. But then again I have eating with red palm oil ever since I cut my first tooth.

Hey Ladies! sorry i havent checked in in a while.....

The Oil from Haiti is used for EVERything....*got a stomach ache.....rub this on it,* *got a pulled muscle, here take this* , *you constipated....ohhhhh here ya go....*

that is all i remember growing up and I remember grand ma telling me to use this and braid your hair at night!! she was soooo right

Anyway, I am glad to know this is accessible and affordable...even if this company wants to be so exclusive! they can keep it and put it ....back where....
* back....there* ( NYC radio listeners)

I need to go to Brooklyn or ask someone to bring it back from Haiti...although it is probably expensive over there cause of all the turmoil.....

I think a thread about Ojon has a link to awebsite that sells Palm Oil...Boadecia started it...

MAHAILIALEE!!! You are soooo right about the name.....it is so similar...

when I saw the Indian people they were showing in Honduras some of them had African features...I mean I dont know if these folks mixed and migrated but that was such a great point....

How so you spelled Huile Mas....is is Misketi?

ok here we go....
http://www.palmerministries.com/people.html

check this out

During the 1600s escaped and shipwrecked slaves made their way to indigenous villages and were mixed into the tribes, this mixed people were sometimes knows as “sambos”, referring to the curly hair inherited from the African slaves.* It wasn’t until the early 1700s that these tribes of the coast began to have significant contact with outsiders.* As the English developed greater control of the Caribbean, buccaneers and later traders and settlers began to establish contacts with these indigenous (Indian) people.* As they obtained muskets and ammunitions from the English, they were able to conquer smaller and weaker tribes in the area. The name “Miskito” may have derived from various spellings of “musketeros”, meaning “the people with muskets.”* This mixed native-African society became the Miskito people of today.








General description:*

The Miskito people are an traditional amerindian-african mestizo people who live as subsistence famers and fishermenn in small villages of the lowland rain forest of Nicaragua and Honduras.* They* are dark in complextion and small in stautue. They have pronounced amerindiam cheek bones and many have curly hair and other african features.

The Miskito people live in close family units in small autonomous villages.* Each village has a leader who serves to settle differences.* There is little sense of personal property and land is not owed or sold.** Families plant common fields crops of rice, beans, and yucca and gather native grown bananas and plantains.* There are government schools in most larger villages and Spanish is taught after the third grade. Because of economic hardships many children do not attend school.* Health care is limited or non existences in most villages.* Infant mortality is high and life expectantacy is low.**

Miskitos were originally animistic in their religious pratices.* In spite of several centriers of esposure to Christianity many people have retainad animistic practices.* Village shamans serve as healers, diviners and exorciers.* The Moravian and Catholic churches as impacted the Miskito culture, but have resulted in syscretistic Christo-animism.


This is facinting to me....it shows that we are seperated only by language...only by language

Okay..so are you guys gonna be putting this in your hair? I asked this a couple of months back and it seemed like it was a bad idea from the response.. has that changed? Because I still have mine waiting to be used...lol

RushGirl said:

Okay..so are you guys gonna be putting this in your hair? I asked this a couple of months back and it seemed like it was a bad idea from the response.. has that changed? Because I still have mine waiting to be used...lol

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Hey, I dont see why not...I think it would be great as a pre treatment cause I think the Haitian Oil stinks so I dont think I would use it everyday...maybe mixed with something to kill the aroma..... but a pre treat definitely

Okay..I'll try it out..