4b hair DOES have Curl/Coil Definition! (long)

Sweetyb

Active Member
Since this summer, I have been on a mission to bring out curl, or 'coil', definition in my hair. I tried all sorts of things, like slabbing different types of gel in my hair, condition washes, not combing my hair, moisturizing products with a little slip in them, and most of all, trying to find a curl/coil defining technique for my type of hair.

After about a month+ of experimenting and staying away from a comb, I was able to bring out the coils in my hair. If you know what a pen spring looks like, those were formed all over, but not completely, throughout my head. I think I have finally achieved every experiment I have wanted to do in order to learn more about my hair texture.

-I was able to do this by massaging a moisturizing conditioner through clean, but not stripped, hair. I used mostly my fingers to detangle and the massaging motion helped to form the curls.

- This didn't happen immediately. It took a few conditioner washes and having my hair looking kinda funny between washes to get the coils to begin their formation. I would start to feel the coils up and down my hair with my fingers.

- I tried staying away from a comb for a good month, but possibly used a couple times to pick out the ends or so. I stayed completely away from my Denman brush.

- I shook my hair (like for a shake n go) while rinsing out the conditioner, using my fingers at the same time. If the conditioner was pretty light-weight (ie. Suave M&H), I tried leaving it in. It sometimes feels thick or sticky afterwards though, but I think it worked as if I had used a gel in my hair.

- After, I always smoothed a moisturizing conditioner with slip in it through chunks of my hair and let it airdry. Sometimes I would use a Pantene leave-in spray as well. I experimented with atleast 7 types of hair gels (each at different times) to see what the coils would look like afterwards. Some required smoothing throughout the hair, some were spray gels that are spritzed onto the coils and 'freezes' them. Sometimes I slicked some oil through them.

I always slicked it back into a pony or a puff. The end result is what looks to be a fluffy fro with tight coils sticking out of it. I have fine hair, so I'm sure those with thicker strands than I would create sharper, more defined and less fluffy, coils. I loved it because it was something unique to my texture. I enjoyed playing with them, like tugging on the ends while studying... I know, HIF disease. I just feel like I've discovered much more of what my texture is all about and what it's capable of doing.

Because it's almost winter, 2 wks ago I detangled all of these out of my head--not a pretty process! The downside to wearing your hair in such a way when your hair is 10"+ like mine is that if you wear it for too long, the old shed hair stays in the coils. 4b coils are tight, so shed hairs won't just slip out like 2c curls, nor can they be raked out with your fingers like 3c curls. If you keep it in long enough, I'm sure the coils will start to matt, because you're not combing out the coils. My ends were tangling like crazy when trying to comb these out. It wasn't until the 2nd wash that my hair was fully detangled. With my length of hair, I won't want to try this too often, or even leave my hair in this state at all (only because my goal is to grow my hair long, otherwise I'd chop it off and keep the coils /images/graemlins/wink.gif ).

* If my hair was shorter, I would definitely let my coils form, and not comb out my hair into a fluffy fro. I encourage all TWA's to try this with their hair as a way to learn more about what your texture can do. Experiment like crazy while your hair is still short. I see a lot of the 3's do it and the coils look lovely on you.

* This may not work for your hair if for instance it has been damaged by any processes, such as over-combing or stretching the strands of your hair to its limit, frying the hair, or any process that may have destroyed or altered your texture of hair. Although I've stayed away from direct heat for 4-5yrs now, I noticed it took a lot to turn the top of my head from fluff to some-what coils, because I constatly brush the top of my head when styling with my boar brush. So I'm sure that's stretched out my coils, making them appear fluffy.

I hope everyone else who is in search of what their hair texture can do is able to find out through experimenting with their hair, and a lot of patience.
 

TigerLily

New Member
I have tried everything and the only thing I get is frizz! zeven when my hair was shorter, as soon as it dried those coils/curls evaporated into frizzlets.

I've just grown to accept and like it.

I'm glad that you were able to find your 'inner curl* :0
 

Sweetyb

Active Member
Thanks /images/graemlins/smile.gif Because I had manipulated my hair so often, it took from mid Summer until Sept. to see results and to master a technique.
 

Sharpened

A fleck on His Sword
A surprise

Personally, I do not care about curl definition, shine or anything of that nature. I was totally caught off-guard when I used a homemade herbal tea/ACV rinse ice cold for the first time. My hair had shine and random, unknown coils popped up out of the frizz all over. I tried to repeat the result with a plain ACV, but it was not the same. I love the way it makes my hair feel so I will keep using it.
 

alibi

hair bored
Re: A surprise

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Personally, I do not care about curl definition, shine or anything of that nature. I was totally caught off-guard when I used a homemade herbal tea/ACV rinse ice cold for the first time. My hair had shine and random, unknown coils popped up out of the frizz all over. I tried to repeat the result with a plain ACV, but it was not the same. I love the way it makes my hair feel so I will keep using it.

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Nymphe,

Don't tease us girl, give us the ACV/herbal tea recipe! /images/graemlins/poke.gif
 

Sharpened

A fleck on His Sword
Re: A surprise

This is not much of a recipe as much as it is a combination of two different ideas: ACV and rosemary tea rinses. I tried a plain ACV rinse, but I like the results of this better. I am still experimenting so if anyone comes up with a better combo, let me know.

* Half a jar of rosemary leaves (needles) from the grocery store spice area.
* 2-3 teaspoons of dried basil and oregano
* Filtered water (distilled is even better)
* A couple of splashes of ACV


I repeatedly boiled, steeped and strained (twice) the herbs until the water was nearly clear during the last steeping. I placed the already strained stuff in a clean bowl (just in case I have to strain it again). I put the ACV into an old pitcher, poured the tea over it and filled with filtered water until I have about 2 qts. Refridgerate overnight (use within 48 hours) as the final rinse for conditioner. I also catch it in a bowl to re-pour over my head until my hair feels clear of conditioner. I have lightly rinsed my hair with cold water but next time I will just leave it on just to see what happens.

I could try essential oils, but I love the way my home smells with this tea going...mmmm
 

DelightfulFlame

New Member
Re: A surprise

if your hair is 4b, are you sure you can get coils? I thought 4b hair was z shaped and had no coils, spirals, or ringlets.
 

Sweetyb

Active Member
Re: A surprise

Hey DelightfulFlame,

4b hair can actually be any one of those. 4b describes the size of the pattern, but not what type of pattern it can hold. To be more specific, I could have extended the subject to be "4b cottony coily..."

The closest, most detailed definition of African hair that I go by is here: http://www.naani.com/african_hair_type_by_category257.htm
My hair looks like the 2nd to last, and the last on that page. I took some pics (disposable) that I would love to post, but need to be developed.

I do admit though, there's still a lot more to discover about our hair textures /images/graemlins/grin.gif. (hmm, we did used to have a nodding graemlin, right?)
 

Sharpened

A fleck on His Sword
I have both textures

The top my head is pure frizz; the back and edges are coils and frizz. Even when wet, the top part looks like it has a weird wave pattern. Little did I know there were coils lurking there /images/graemlins/sekret.gif ...like snakes in grass...LOL!
 

Sharpened

A fleck on His Sword
Re: I have both textures

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... for me, snakes in a big ball of fluff /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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/images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/antlers.gif
 

DelightfulFlame

New Member
Re: I have both textures

Thanks for posting that link, I had forgotten about that site. Somewhere I had read about a Z pattern, maybe that is what they mean by the zig zags. Still from reading this and other posts on nappturality, I was/am under the impression that 4b types don't have coil definition and can't get it.
 
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