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Did anyone catch that show this morning? I saw the previews yesterday and I was curious and confused about why he would be on a gospel program??
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I saw Fantasia on Bobby Jones Gospel recently and she sang w/more passion (versus production) than some of the so-called "gospel" artists
So what's the question?
I think the question the OP was asking was Did any one see the show with Rick Ross? If I am wrong forgive me.
Maybe so... probably so... but the inclusion of "curious and confused about why he would be on a gospel program??" is what prompted my response.
Foxy girl, I love you...you be on IT!!!
But yeah, I read it like "what in the heck is HE doing on there, he is NOT saved".......
I don't listen to his music so I don't know what he raps about but, hey that's between him and God.
Maybe so... probably so... but the inclusion of "curious and confused about why he would be on a gospel program??" is what prompted my response.
Foxy girl, I love you...you be on IT!!!
But yeah, I read it like "what in the heck is HE doing on there, he is NOT saved".......
I don't listen to his music so I don't know what he raps about but, hey that's between him and God.
I did not know he is not saved? I mean do you know if he is saved?
Does Fiddy watch "Lift Every Voice"?
I saw Fantasia on Bobby Jones Gospel recently and she sang w/more passion (versus production) than some of the so-called "gospel" artists
So what's the question?
Maybe because he is not a gospel singer??? I think it is a legit question.
Does Fiddy watch "Lift Every Voice"?
And what defines a gospel singer? The kinds of songs included on a CD? The person who says they are a gospel singer? A person who has not said they are a gospel singer but have put out gospel albums? And exactly what is a gospel album? Is that based on the record company? The kinds of songs on a CD?
Who has the right/authority to say that Rick Ross is or is not a gospel singer?[/quote]
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My personal definition of Gospel Music - Sharing the good news of Jesus via music.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that Rick Ross NOT a gospel singer - unless I have been asleep for a few thousand years and the gospel is really about "Hittin U From the BacK"
Rick Ross
Hit U From The Back lyrics
Ya see sugar I been yernin to hold you now I'ma be strate up and down witcha 'cause dats the only way I
Know how to be now baby ima ask u one thing can I hold ya
Cock cock ya legs
Let me hitcha from the back
Cock cock cock ya legs
Let me hitcha form the back
Cock cock cock ya legs
Let me hitcha from the back
Hitcha from the back hitcha from the back [x
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And what defines a gospel singer? The kinds of songs included on a CD? The person who says they are a gospel singer? A person who has not said they are a gospel singer but have put out gospel albums? And exactly what is a gospel album? Is that based on the record company? The kinds of songs on a CD?
Who has the right/authority to say that Rick Ross is or is not a gospel singer?[/quote]
re bolded:
My personal definition of Gospel Music - Sharing the good news of Jesus via music.
I am going to go out on a limb and say that Rick Ross NOT a gospel singer - unless I have been asleep for a few thousand years and the gospel is really about "Hittin U From the BacK"
Rick Ross
Hit U From The Back lyrics
Ya see sugar I been yernin to hold you now I'ma be strate up and down witcha 'cause dats the only way I
Know how to be now baby ima ask u one thing can I hold ya
Cock cock ya legs
Let me hitcha from the back
Cock cock cock ya legs
Let me hitcha form the back
Cock cock cock ya legs
Let me hitcha from the back
Hitcha from the back hitcha from the back [x
perplexederplexed
One song defines a music artist's entire portfolio? One song defines a music artist's spirituality?
It's the Mary Mary thread in reverse.
I'm not defending Rick Ross. As I said upthread: I don't know this entertainer or what makes him notable. But the presumptions around labeling has to stop. It's misleading and intrusive.
One song defines a music artist's entire portfolio? One song defines a music artist's spirituality?
It's the Mary Mary thread in reverse.
I'm not defending Rick Ross. As I said upthread: I don't know this entertainer or what makes him notable. But the presumptions around labeling has to stop. It's misleading and intrusive.
What is misleading and intrusive is having an artist that is living a life contrary to what God has called us to. It sends the wrong signal to a new convert or immature Christian who may tune in:
Romans 16:17-18
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Absolutely this song and the severity of the lyrics should speak to his spirutial state. We are to know Christians by their fruit. The bible is clear on this:
Matthew 7:15-23
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
These are basic biblical truths that have been basically overlooked in many areas of the body of Christ. The Lord is not playing around with us negotiating on the word He has called us to live out. We are to live so that anyone looking for evil works in us may be ashamed. (Titus 2)
One song defines a music artist's entire portfolio? One song defines a music artist's spirituality?
It's the Mary Mary thread in reverse.
I'm not defending Rick Ross. As I said upthread: I don't know this entertainer or what makes him notable. But the presumptions around labeling has to stop. It's misleading and intrusive.
What is misleading and intrusive is having an artist that is living a life contrary to what God has called us to. It sends the wrong signal to a new convert or immature Christian who may tune in:
Romans 16:17-18
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
Absolutely this song and the severity of the lyrics should speak to his spirutial state. We are to know Christians by their fruit. The bible is clear on this:
Matthew 7:15-23
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
These are basic biblical truths that have been basically overlooked in many areas of the body of Christ. The Lord is not playing around with us negotiating on the word He has called us to live out. We are to live so that anyone looking for evil works in us may be ashamed. (Titus 2)
From this argument, such criticisms are MISDIRECTED. The criticisms shouldn't be on Rick Ross but on the hosts and producers of the BET show. Does this show require that guests sign a statement or profess their Christian faith prior to being on the show? Is there some kind of written or unwritten rule or policy that only "professed" Christians appear on this show?
And exactly what wrong signal is being sent? According to previous posts, Rick Ross talked about forgiveness, which is a major biblical principle. Did Rick sing the lyrics to the song you listed on the show?
To answer your question OP...here is the synopsis of the show from bet.com
The all new LIFT EVERY VOICE is a half-hour program featuring insightful testimonies from some of mainstream and Gospel’s biggest and brightest stars. The show focuses on the guests' journeys with the Lord in their everyday life. The show also provides an opportunity for our guests to advise others who are living similar experiences on how they can use faith to overcome adversities.
http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/liftvoice/default.htm
According to this description, finding someone like Rick Ross on this show wouldn't be out the norm.
To answer your question OP...here is the synopsis of the show from bet.com
The all new LIFT EVERY VOICE is a half-hour program featuring insightful testimonies from some of mainstream and Gospel’s biggest and brightest stars. The show focuses on the guests' journeys with the Lord in their everyday life. The show also provides an opportunity for our guests to advise others who are living similar experiences on how they can use faith to overcome adversities.
http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/liftvoice/default.htm
According to this description, finding someone like Rick Ross on this show wouldn't be out the norm.
Well... this information addresses several points in this thread....
It's interesting though.... this show blurs the line between the secular and sacred.... which could be a good or bad thing.... So if a new or weak Christian sees their favorite MAINSTREAM artist on this show "advising others who are living similar experiences on how they can use faith to overcome adversities", where's the line between living a sacred versus a secular life? Is it a mixed message when one's favorite MAINSTREAM artist has a song with the lyrics "Cock cock ya legs Let me hitcha from the back" but yet they are on this show advising others about how to apply faith to a situation.... Mainstream artists have faith, too? Hmmmm....
Interesting....