Long Hair Care Forum
Home Rules Feature Of The Month !! SUBSCRIBE !! Reviews iSpy Blogs Groups Contact Us

Go Back   Long Hair Care Forum > Long Hair Care Forum's Discussion Boards > Hair Care Tips & Product Review Discussion

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-15-2009, 12:27 PM
Natirelle's Avatar
Natirelle Natirelle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 884
Thanks: 987
Thanked 416 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Question Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Everytime I use protein my little curls snap of (breakage). So I just came up with the conclusion my hair doesnt like protein.

I used Africa's Best Hair Mayo, and Lustrasilk Herbal deep conditoning (it contains protein). For some strange reason when I use those products my curls pop like crazy and then later snap.

I do utilize gentle handling, detangling with a wide tooth comb,and moisturizing and sealing, Iprotective style with extension and now Im having a break from having kinky twist in for a 1 1/2 (Im a DIYER) !! {I have 5 inches of hair)

At the moment I'm using Queen Helene Cholestrol deep conditioner, it does wonders for my hair even though it contains mineral oil.

So is anyone else in the same boat? or got out of it and what suggestions would you make to me and the others?
__________________

Speaking & Working This Into Existence

Last edited by Natirelle; 11-15-2009 at 12:30 PM. Reason: A few more personal facts,
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-15-2009, 03:42 PM
ryanshope's Avatar
ryanshope ryanshope is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Fredneck
Posts: 1,785
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 2,179
Thanked 626 Times in 201 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Mmmh..I haven't had a protein treatment since going natural; I don't need one....why do you feel the need to do one--especially if your hair is sensitive to it? Just curious---what kinds of protein? Just the cholesterol and such or others...?


I DO alot of co-washing and I twist with Rusk Deep Shine(bio-marine based conditioner) this contains algae, kelp and marine protein---my hair has been thriving ever since I adopted this routine--it is cheap, easy and I am kinda lazy right now.

I also seal with castor oil when I remember or grease my scalp with Sulfur 8 after washing(my scalp loves it).



~A~
__________________
I don't know MiteyChick...but OMG she is HILARIOUS!!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-15-2009, 03:42 PM
Stacy TheLady Stacy TheLady is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Trinidad, West Indies
Posts: 680
Thanks: 0
Thanked 21 Times in 11 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 17 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I am also protein sensitive. My hair hates too much of it!

The only protein conditioner that my hair sort of likes is Profective Mega Growth. It contains Wheat Germ and Wheat Germ Oil, Oat Protein and some other protein stuff & very good ones at that. I only leave it in for about 30 minutes under a shower cap, which I double up on because i think the heat builds up better when i wear two.

After rinsing i follow up with Lustrasilk Cholesterol Shea Butter and Mango & I add Coconut Oil & EVOO. That works for me very well and counteracts the brittleness of using the protein. The Cholesterol is mild.

The Profectiv does not have my hair very brittle once I do not exceed 30mins. There is also an oil to this conditioner. I love it and it smells great. Then i rinse and air dry, moisturize, seal and protective style for the week. (twists/cornrows)

I am satisfied with those results from the Profectiv and I will stick to it.

Right now i am doing an Amla Oil and Rice Bran Oil experiment and so far so good, my hair is so healthy. I really need to focus on filling in my temple area and achieving my growth goal of below BSL
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-15-2009, 04:02 PM
PPGbubbles's Avatar
PPGbubbles PPGbubbles is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 4,263
Thanks: 6,119
Thanked 12,272 Times in 2,019 Posts
Mentioned: 154 Post(s)
Tagged: 8 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Yes my hair hates pretty much all protein condistioners .... The only protien product I like is Aphogee treatment I used it once every 6 to 8 weeks... My hair definately feels stronger afterward yet still soft. I make sure to use no other protien conditioners between treatments.

I find that by adding aphogee my hair is less prone to breakage during wash days and it feels better when I take out my braids or sew ins.

And another reason I do protein treatments is because my hair was extremely porous, I would get soggy hair 4rm DCs some times... Aphogee cut down on this for me too! But now I encorporoated Roux Porosity controll in my routine so maybe I could go a lil farther in between treatments ?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-15-2009, 04:05 PM
aegis aegis is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NOVA
Posts: 315
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

my hair likes protein in moderation
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-15-2009, 05:20 PM
Neith Neith is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 3,479
Thanks: 0
Thanked 137 Times in 66 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I'm definitely protein sensitive

When I use protein, my hair gets extra hard and tangly. Even after a moisturizing DC.

I don't need protein, but I do know that I cause a small amount of damage to my hair when I detangle or manipulate it. So I still want at least a little protein in my regimen.

For protein once a month I use a light source of protein just for a few minutes. Milk, Silk Amino Acids, Aloe Vera Gel and Coconut Milk work well for me.

I haven't found a commercial protein based product that doesn't make my hair hard.

I'm also thinking about trying light protein as a pre poo.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-15-2009, 05:51 PM
blksndrlla's Avatar
blksndrlla blksndrlla is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 962
Thanks: 885
Thanked 671 Times in 263 Posts
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 18 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I'm a transitioner...but I can't take anything, but the aphogee 2-step about once every blue moon. I don't care if it is a cheapie co-wash...if it has protein in it my hair goes bonkers! So, I am stearing clear of them...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-15-2009, 06:01 PM
Natirelle's Avatar
Natirelle Natirelle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 884
Thanks: 987
Thanked 416 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanshope View Post
Mmmh..I haven't had a protein treatment since going natural; I don't need one....why do you feel the need to do one--especially if your hair is sensitive to it? Just curious---what kinds of protein? Just the cholesterol and such or others...?


I DO alot of co-washing and I twist with Rusk Deep Shine(bio-marine based conditioner) this contains algae, kelp and marine protein---my hair has been thriving ever since I adopted this routine--it is cheap, easy and I am kinda lazy right now.

I also seal with castor oil when I remember or grease my scalp with Sulfur 8 after washing(my scalp loves it).



~A~
I was anxious to find out, what my hair likes and dislikes. I wore kinky twist for 6 months and thought I was in need of a protein treatment.
Now I know my hair doesnt like it, it turns into tangle city.

Thanks for the responses ladies!!
__________________

Speaking & Working This Into Existence
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-15-2009, 06:07 PM
Miss AJ Miss AJ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: O-H-I-O
Posts: 1,440
Thanks: 264
Thanked 599 Times in 213 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 19 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

But if protein overload is a possibilty, wouldn't that mean everyone is "protein sensitive"? I've never heard anyone say their hair hates moisture but i ALWAYS hear about someone's hair hating protein. Our hair is made of protein so I've always been confused by that statement.


ETA: If your hair is already in good condition I could see how a strong protein would make your hair go nuts, but I don't get what people mean when they say it hates protein.

Last edited by Miss AJ; 11-15-2009 at 06:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-15-2009, 06:33 PM
Neith Neith is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 3,479
Thanks: 0
Thanked 137 Times in 66 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss AJ View Post
But if protein overload is a possibilty, wouldn't that mean everyone is "protein sensitive"? I've never heard anyone say their hair hates moisture but i ALWAYS hear about someone's hair hating protein. Our hair is made of protein so I've always been confused by that statement.


ETA: If your hair is already in good condition I could see how a strong protein would make your hair go nuts, but I don't get what people mean when they say it hates protein.
No, everyone isn't protein sensitive. Many people around here use aubrey's GPB and other products that contain protein... and it leaves them with soft hair. That will not be the case for me.

It's nothing hard to understand. Putting protein based products on my hair and leaving it in for more than a few minutes makes it very hard and tangled. Even light proteins. My hair just doesn't like it.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-15-2009, 06:40 PM
Miss AJ Miss AJ is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: O-H-I-O
Posts: 1,440
Thanks: 264
Thanked 599 Times in 213 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 19 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I GET that certain proteins act differently for everyone, but what I'm asking is if protein overload is a possibility for anyone regardless of how much protein their hair can handle then technically we are all protein sensitive to a certain degree, right?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-15-2009, 06:55 PM
Neith Neith is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 3,479
Thanks: 0
Thanked 137 Times in 66 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss AJ View Post
I GET that certain proteins act differently for everyone, but what I'm asking is if protein overload is a possibility for anyone regardless of how much protein their hair can handle then technically we are all protein sensitive to a certain degree, right?
Yep.

Some people's hair is sensitive to protein, some people's hair likes a lot of protein... most people probably fall somewhere in the middle and are fine with protein in moderation.

As an example - I don't think that many people's hair would survive using a hardcore reconstructor every single day. There is a limit.

Just like baggying 24/7 with moisturizing conditioners every single day for a long period of time can lead overmoisturized, mushy hair. Too much of anything can be bad.

However, I describe my hair as being particularly protein sensitive because it doesn't respond well to protein at all. Everyone is not "protein sensitive" by that definition.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-15-2009, 07:17 PM
Natirelle's Avatar
Natirelle Natirelle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 884
Thanks: 987
Thanked 416 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thumbs up Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neith View Post
No, everyone isn't protein sensitive. Many people around here use aubrey's GPB and other products that contain protein... and it leaves them with soft hair. That will not be the case for me.

It's nothing hard to understand. Putting protein based products on my hair and leaving it in for more than a few minutes makes it very hard and tangled. Even light proteins. My hair just doesn't like it.
If I was to put a protein on my hair from 3-5 mins my hair will be dry and breaking regard less compared to 5 mins to 1 hour I get the same side affects.. My curls would be defined but they will be popping off. So I was realize that it was breaking my hair and I wasnt retaining any length (with protective styles), I stop using it and oh god did I retain some length.
__________________

Speaking & Working This Into Existence
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-15-2009, 07:17 PM
Mook's hair's Avatar
Mook's hair Mook's hair is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,790
Thanks: 13
Thanked 308 Times in 89 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 19 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I'm definitely protein sensitive but to animal proteins and super strong protein like apHogee.

Try using Silk Protein instead. It works wonderfully for me.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-15-2009, 07:22 PM
Natirelle's Avatar
Natirelle Natirelle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 884
Thanks: 987
Thanked 416 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thumbs up Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mook's hair View Post
I'm definitely protein sensitive but to animal proteins and super strong protein like apHogee.

Try using Silk Protein instead. It works wonderfully for me.
I love your hair MOOK !!!!
__________________

Speaking & Working This Into Existence
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-15-2009, 07:36 PM
werenumber2's Avatar
werenumber2 werenumber2 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,246
Thanks: 254
Thanked 16,545 Times in 2,621 Posts
Mentioned: 172 Post(s)
Tagged: 36 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I'm protein sensitive with a twist.

I can use all the protein conditioners and treatments in the world - Aubrey's GPB, TIGI Oatmeal & Honey, Hairveda Moisture Pro, Aphogee - and my hair will love it. However, the minute I start using a leave-in, butter, gel, cream...basically any sort of styler with protein (Ecostyler, Giovanni Direct, Shescentit Seyani Butter, etc), my hair will become dry and bushy.

I'm good with protein as long as it's in rinse-out form.
__________________
Fine, low-porosity, shrinkage-prone 3b/c BSL corkscrews and spirals

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-15-2009, 08:53 PM
Neith Neith is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 3,479
Thanks: 0
Thanked 137 Times in 66 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by drea53 View Post
If I was to put a protein on my hair from 3-5 mins my hair will be dry and breaking regard less compared to 5 mins to 1 hour I get the same side affects.. My curls would be defined but they will be popping off. So I was realize that it was breaking my hair and I wasnt retaining any length (with protective styles), I stop using it and oh god did I retain some length.

We all have different hair. I was specifically talking about my own hair in the quote you posted.

There is a lot of variety among all of us. Even within categories and sub categories, we're all individuals

There's no way I would leave an actual commercial protein conditioner in my hair for any length of time either though, lol.

Only natural stuff (as a source of protein) doesn't upset my hair - and only if I don't leave it in long. Weird.

Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-15-2009, 09:20 PM
darlingdiva's Avatar
darlingdiva darlingdiva is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 3,465
Thanks: 7,007
Thanked 2,707 Times in 840 Posts
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 105 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by werenumber2 View Post
I'm protein sensitive with a twist.

I can use all the protein conditioners and treatments in the world - Aubrey's GPB, TIGI Oatmeal & Honey, Hairveda Moisture Pro, Aphogee - and my hair will love it. However, the minute I start using a leave-in, butter, gel, cream...basically any sort of styler with protein (Ecostyler, Giovanni Direct, Shescentit Seyani Butter, etc), my hair will become dry and bushy.

I'm good with protein as long as it's in rinse-out form.
This is so true about my hair too!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-15-2009, 10:34 PM
Natirelle's Avatar
Natirelle Natirelle is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 884
Thanks: 987
Thanked 416 Times in 117 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Wink Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neith View Post

We all have different hair. I was specifically talking about my own hair in the quote you posted.

There is a lot of variety among all of us. Even within categories and sub categories, we're all individuals

There's no way I would leave an actual commercial protein conditioner in my hair for any length of time either though, lol.

Only natural stuff (as a source of protein) doesn't upset my hair - and only if I don't leave it in long. Weird.

I was agreeing with you, and telling the person you quoted my difference with protein.
__________________

Speaking & Working This Into Existence
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-31-2009, 09:50 PM
fattyfatfat's Avatar
fattyfatfat fattyfatfat is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 10,918
Thanks: 12,881
Thanked 2,694 Times in 720 Posts
Mentioned: 116 Post(s)
Tagged: 90 Thread(s)
Default Re: Naturals that are protein sensitive ?? anyone

I have a quick question:

I used hairveda's Moist Condition PRO- Daily Protein Enhanced Conditioner last week for a few minutes last week and my hair was sooooo dry after using it . My hair was hard to detangle and a week later, it still felt like hay! would my hair be protein sensitive? it was my first time using this product.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



» Advertisment

» Advertisment

» Advertisment

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2011, Long Hair Care Forum™, LLC.
Site Maintenance Nikos Dimopoulos - www.niden.net