Ayurveda Support Thread

mystery29

Active Member
Hi Mystery29,

Ideally, you should wash with Ayurvedic powders twice a week and DC after every wash.
You can use any conditioners/deep conditioners you like. Whatever works well with your hair!
You should use shampoo once a month to avoid build up. I use an organic clarifying shampoo every four weeks.

Have you read this from CANDY C. This gives a lot of good information if you are just starting out to use Ayurvedic powders and oils. Tells you how to mix the powders and which powders to use. You may however tweak this method to suit you better.

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=194049

You may find that you want to strain your powder mixture through a stocking cap or some sort of tightly knitted material so that you are not left with grit or powder residue in your hair which will cause breakage.

Also, in order to know what type of oils you should use if you wish to pre-poo over night with oils or do scalp massages and hot oil treatments, you can take this questionnaire

http://www.dosha.org/what/what1.html

Using oils for pre-pooing and hot oil treatments has helped to keep my hair softer, more moisturised and in an overall healthier condition.

Recommended Scalp/Massage Oils:
For Growth: Avocado, Mabhringeraj, jojoba, rosemary, brahmi, vatika
Dandruff: Jojoba, tea tree, neem, shikakai
Health: Olive, coconut, jojoba, lavendar, peppermint, almond
Dry Scalp: Bhringeraj, maka, amla, wheat germ
Hair Loss Treatment: Maka

Doshas and Recommended Oils
Vata: Amla, jojoba, lavendar
Pitta: Mabhringeraj, bhringeraj, coconut
Kapha: Almond, shikakai, peppermint, rosemary, tea tree

Hope this helps.


So everytime I want to wash my hair with these powders I have to mix and measure them each and every time?
 

Platinum

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Saturday, I found an Indian store not far from where I delivered my load. I picked up 2 bottles of Amla Gold, 1 bottle of Jasmine Oil, 2 boxes of Shikakai powder, 2 boxes of Aritha powder, and 1 box of Amla powder. I'm going to try the powders when I remove my Kinky Twists. I'm going to add a little Amla and Jasmine oil to my MTG mix until then.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?
 

Aggie

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Wow, this is great info Aggie. I can't wait to see your results from the henna. Is the reason why you DC'd overnight prior to the henna because you are trying to have well moisturized hair? I remember reading in another thread that you hair should be moisturized prior to doing henna.


Yes, this is exactly the reason why I dc-ed overnight.
 

Aggie

Well-Known Member
Saturday, I found an Indian store not far from where I delivered my load. I picked up 2 bottles of Amla Gold, 1 bottle of Jasmine Oil, 2 boxes of Shikakai powder, 2 boxes of Aritha powder, and 1 box of Amla powder. I'm going to try the powders when I remove my Kinky Twists. I'm going to add a little Amla and Jasmine oil to my MTG mix until then.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?

Careful with the aritha. It works like a clarifying shampoo and can be excessively drying, in fact, it is recommended for oily hair. I do use it but I only mix a tiny bit of it (like a teaspoon) with my other powders when I feel like my hair has a lot of build-up on it. Just remember to oil your hair properly before using the powders on it.
 

Platinum

Well-Known Member
Careful with the aritha. It works like a clarifying shampoo and can be excessively drying, in fact, it is recommended for oily hair. I do use it but I only mix a tiny bit of it (like a teaspoon) with my other powders when I feel like my hair has a lot of build-up on it. Just remember to oil your hair properly before using the powders on it.

Thank you!:look: What kind of oil should I use with I do this? I have so many (Grapeseed, Jojoba, Coconut, EVOO, Sweet Almond, Castor, Amla, and Vatika along with blends like:africa's best and african pride).
 

Aggie

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Thank you!:look: What kind of oil should I use with I do this? I have so many (Grapeseed, Jojoba, Coconut, EVOO, Sweet Almond, Castor, Amla, and Vatika along with blends like:africa's best and african pride).

All of the bolded above can be used.
 

Platinum

Well-Known Member
Is there a basic ayurvedic shampoo I can use instead of just mixing the powders?

I saw a Vatika shampoo in the Indian store. Some of these products come in a shampoo bar as well. I'm still trying to learn about this so I'll step back and let some of the other sistas help you on this.
 

mystery29

Active Member
I saw a Vatika shampoo in the Indian store. Some of these products come in a shampoo bar as well. I'm still trying to learn about this so I'll step back and let some of the other sistas help you on this.


I really do want someone to chime in thats an expert because I am so confused :perplexed also theres no indian stores in my area
 

Energist

New Member
The Shikakai bar is wonderful. I have just started using it. I like the powder as well, but the bar just really does the job for me. Ofcourse my head was heavily oiled with amla and nyle oil before hand, but I mean my rollerset came out so airy and shiny. I really like these products :)
 

mystery29

Active Member
The Shikakai bar is wonderful. I have just started using it. I like the powder as well, but the bar just really does the job for me. Ofcourse my head was heavily oiled with amla and nyle oil before hand, but I mean my rollerset came out so airy and shiny. I really like these products :)


Where can you get a shikakai bar and how do you use it?
 

Energist

New Member
Where can you get a shikakai bar and how do you use it?

That site that platinum posted has the same bar that I use with the same price. Also, the bar usually has a few moisturizers in it, so that it isn't that harsh on the hair. Now if you use the natural shikakai powder, it's really potent and can actually strip it a great deal if there wasn't proper moisturization before hand or mixed with amla powder. The swaztik shikakai soap has this:

  • [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]Brahmi: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2](Scientific/Latin name: Bacopa monnieri.[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]English Name: Thyme-Leaved Gratiola) - [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]It nourishes & promotes healthy growth of hair.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]Amla (Indian Gooseberry): [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2](Scientific/Latin name: Embilica officinalis Gaertn./Phyllanthus emblica Linn.) - [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]A balance cleanser, nourishes skin & scalp.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]Bhringaraj:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2][/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2](Scientific/Latin name: Eclipta Prostrata/Alba)[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2] - [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]It prevents premature greying of hair.[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2]Aloe Vera:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial,Times New I2] Hair & Body Moisturiser.[/FONT]
You just let water run over your head for atleast 2 minutes, and then lather the soap in your hand and work into the scalp only. The rest of your hair should be oiled or conditioned, so don't use the soap on the ends, just focus on the scalp, because eventually the soap will run to the ends. I part my hair in 2 ponytails and work on one section at a time with 2 lathers each. Your scalp will feel squeaky clean but not stripped. You can then follow with your regular deep conditioner or whatever you would put in or do next :) HTH
 

vestaluv1

Well-Known Member
Does anyone know if the Swastik Shikakai bar has sodium laurel/laureth sulfates or any other chemicals or lathering agents in it.
I want to order a batch, but only if its 100% natural.
 

Energist

New Member
Does anyone know if the Swastik Shikakai bar has sodium laurel/laureth sulfates or any other chemicals or lathering agents in it.
I want to order a batch, but only if its 100% natural.

No. On the bars packaging there are no ingredients listed except for amla, brahmi, bhringaraj, but I have done a search and found this info on the bar http://www.hairveda.net/shikakaibar.htm

Finding that link actually makes me feel much better about using the soap now.
 

vestaluv1

Well-Known Member
So everytime I want to wash my hair with these powders I have to mix and measure them each and every time?

Yep. BTW, you should NEVER use Shikakai on its own because it can totally strip your hair of moisture. So you use more of other powders when mixing with Shikakai... (i.e, 1:2 or 1:3 ratios)
Here is an example:

1 part Shikakai to 2 parts Bhringeraj or Amla.

1 part Shikakai to 1 part Aritha, 1 part Neem and 1 part Brahmi.

If you get Kalpi Tone, this has the correct mixture of a number of powders so you literally just add boiling water.
 

miami74

New Member
Check out this site. The owner is a member of LHCF:

www.stinastina.ecrater.com

Hope this helps!

I recently bought the Swastik Shikakai Soap bar from this site. I used it Sunday and it was wonderful. My hair feels very silky and smooth, yet strong. I oiled my hair with Dabur Amla oil the night before. I braided my hair in four sections, lathered up the soap and massaged my scalp and roots only. It's definitely a keeper.
 
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cieramichele

Guest
anyone using vatika oil with MT?

im thinking about putting the oil in a spray bottle.
 

mystery29

Active Member
I recently bought the Swastik Shikakai Soap bar from this site. I used it Sunday and it was wonderful. My hair feels very silky and smooth, yet strong. I oiled my hair with Dabur Amla oil the night before. I braided my hair in four sections, lathered up the soap and massaged my scalp and roots only. It's definitely a keeper.

Thats a good idea, especially if it left your hair feeling real clean. Ive been working out and my hair feels like a sweaty, greasy mess.
 

unique4lyfe33

New Member
i just prepooed my hair w/ alma oil, vatika oil, and jojoba oil, then i washed it w/ the shakaki (sp) bar, dc w/ ors, sprayed w/ rose water, vatika oil, and infusium 23 and rollerset it. my rollers are still in now. while i was washin my hair there was no hairs in my shower! so i will continue using. i took out some rollers and my hair feels so healthy.
 

Aggie

Well-Known Member
Okay ladies I finally came up with my own ayurveda recipe that can used as a co-wash or a deep conditioner. I have alreday used it and I gatta say, it the best my hair has felt in a long time, not to mention thicker too.

Here it is:

I finally have a great recipe to post and it's my personalized ayurveda co-wash/deep conditioner. Please let me know what you ladies think about it.
Agatha's Ayurveda Co-Wash Set-Up.jpg

LadyAggie's Ayurveda Co-Wash/Deep Conditioning Recipe.

I got this idea from one of our beloved member and sista off LHCF and fotki and she knows who she is DG,lol. All I can say to you girl is thanks a million for posting your recipe so all of us can see and learn more about how to put a recipe like this together. I must give a big shout out to my girl MedMunky for all her tireless efforts at helping me out with my FENUGREEK RECIPE as well. I can't leave out Lavendar as she the one who warned me about the drying effects of amla, thank you girl. I hope that in my efforts to tweak this recipe, that some of the ladies can learn something from me too. HHG ladies.

What you will need:

1 TPS of shikakai powder
1 TBS of bhringraj powder
1 TBS of hibiscus petal powder
1 TBS of brahmi powder
5 drops of rosemary essential oil
5 drops of lavender essential oil
¼ cup of coconut oil
¼ cup of bhringraj oil
½ cup of suave or tressemme conditioner (or any other cheap one preferably without cones but not absolutely necessary)
Amla/shikakai/Vatika oil for oiling hair & scalp before applying the recipe
Distilled water
A bowl
A whip
fenugreek seed powder (optional) See bottom for a further tweaked version of this recipe.
Gloves (optional)
1 Plastic cap

The Recipe:

Mix all ingredients together with enough distilled water to make a paste. The consistency should be like that of yogurt. Oil your hair and scritch your scalp well with either amla, shikakai, or vatika oil. Apply mixed conditioner to properly oiled hair from roots to ends and scritched scalp as you would your normal conditioner, put on a plastic cap and leave on for 45-60 minutes. Thoroughly wash out under running water until all herbs are gone. This may take a few minutes. You may use some additional cheapie conditioner to aid in the removal of the herbs.

In order for this to be a deeper conditioner, simply substitute the suave/tressemme for a thicker more moisturizing conditioner. You may leave it on the hair for an hour with a plastic cap on and wrapped with a hot towel. Wash out the same way as above.

With both treatments, it is advised to do a moisturizing deep conditioning treatment for 45 minutes to an hour under a hooded dryer or a conditioning heat cap.

Please note that this recipe can be multiplied to make and save time for about 4 treatments at a time, maybe more if desired.

Another way to tweak this recipe is to make a fenugreek seed tea rinse with the distilled water and use that for mixing the ingredients together instead of using just plain distilled water.

The FENUGREEK SEED TEA RINSE mixture would include about
3 oz of fenugreek seed powder,
3 oz of coconut oil and mixed with about
3 cups of distilled water,
let it come to a boil and allow to cool for a few minutes, strain, (I use a stocking cap for straining) then mix in the above recipe.

The fenugreek will give added strength, conditioning, softness, slip and shine to your hair. It is also known to speed up hair growth. The extra fenugreek liquid can be refrigerated for later use alone or mixed with other powders.

Wow my hair feels GREAT! This has been my best co-wash ever!!!. I have never used these powders and had this soft a hair before...... NEVER before this conditioner. It's really yummy.

OH BY THE WAY LADIES, IT PAYS TO HAVE FILTERED WATER - INVEST IN A SHOWER FILTER IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, MY RECOMMENDATION SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE A SPRITE (HOC) MODEL.
 
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PassionFruit

New Member
thats a bit too many ingredients and mixing for me... I use one or two powders ( half package of each) .. a few dashes of oil ( aint got time to be measuring) and some water... mix and plop it on my head... it its too thick before I use it, I add more oil.... if I have too much, I put the rest in a ziplock



today I have no idea what I have on my head... I had 3 ziploc bags closed with pastes all inside 1 huge ziploc in the freezer... duh @ me for not marking the individual bags.... so I either have... Skikakai/amla paste.... amla/fenugreek paste... or fenugreek/methi.... I hope its not the latter cuz Id like to wait 2 weeks before putting MethiHenna on my hair

whatever is on there will sit for a few while I do my nails
 

Aggie

Well-Known Member
thats a bit too many ingredients and mixing for me... I use one or two powders ( half package of each) .. a few dashes of oil ( aint got time to be measuring) and some water... mix and plop it on my head... it its too thick before I use it, I add more oil.... if I have too much, I put the rest in a ziplock



today I have no idea what I have on my head... I had 3 ziploc bags closed with pastes all inside 1 huge ziploc in the freezer... duh @ me for not marking the individual bags.... so I either have... Skikakai/amla paste.... amla/fenugreek paste... or fenugreek/methi.... I hope its not the latter cuz Id like to wait 2 weeks before putting MethiHenna on my hair

whatever is on there will sit for a few while I do my nails

Actually it's not that hard or time consuming because I make a big batch and refrigerate it for later use. I will tell you this though, if you use this once, you will be hooked and you will see why I'm drooling all over this recipe. I have a lot of powders, oils and conditioner, so for me, it's really no trouble at all to make. I make simple recipes for my tea rinses only.

ETA: By the way, that's 2 different recipes in my post. The one at the bottom is my fenugreek tea rinse that I think I will use as a base for the rest of my future mixes. I hve a half a gallon of it in the fridge right now.
 
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Anna9764

New Member
Hi everyone!

I have some tips for some of you that may be having problems with hard hair when using Ayurvedic products. I have finally found a regimen that works for me, so here are some things that I have done that really helped. My hair does not get hard at all anymore when any mixture is in my hair, it is soft the whole way through.

Strain everything.

This sounds like common sense, but my dumb self used these mixtures straight :nono: Since I like to make my own teas, rinses, and oils from powders, it really helps to strain it before you use it.

Use 40:60 ratio of water and oil to make mixtures.

All of the rinses and teas I use in my hair are strained, and heavily diluted with oil and water. I still get the benefit of the powders without getting this stuff stuck in my hair. I tried making pastes but that just does not work at all. The more diluted the mixture, the better. The consistency is very watery.

Add these teas and rinses to oiled hair.

I know a lot of you oil your hair overnight with coconut oil or amla oil. I suggest not washing out the oil before adding the teas and rinses to your hair. It does not prevent the teas/rinses from working, and keeps your hair pliable and easy to work with, acting like a "buffer" against the mixtures.

Big thanks to Whimsy :drunk: She suggested that I do the overnight oil treatment on dry hair as opposed to wet/damp hair. It really does work better. Although my hair uses a lot more oil when dry than when wet, my hair felt much softer doing it this way. Thanks, Whimsy!!

With that being said, here's my regimen. It's very low-maintenance and very very simple.
  1. Apply Ayurvedic oil mixture to dry, dirty hair for 1 hour-overnight.
  2. Apply Ayurvedic wash mixture to my hair for an hour (don't rinse out the oil that was in your hair previously).
  3. Rinse out the Ayurveda wash mixture for 5 minutes with hot water.
  4. Deep condition.
  5. Rinse out with cold water.
  6. Airdry.
I just named them this cuz I dunno what else to call them :look::spinning: Nothing special, just a whole bunch of oils/powders that I mixed together.

Ayurvedic oil mixture: Dabur Amla Oil, Parachute Coconut Oil, Vatika Coconut Oil, Dabur Olive Oil, Castor Oil, Shikakai Oil

Ayurvedic wash mixture: I mix henna powder, indigo powder, amla powder, shikakai powder, neem powder and ritha powder in a bowl, maybe 2 tablespoons of each. Add 3 cups of water and let this sit overnight. The next day, strain it very well and add 2 cups of the Ayurvedic oil mixture. Pour this mixture in a bottle and use it as needed. This last me 6-8 washes. The only time I get in the shower is to rinse out the conditioner, I hate jumping in and out of the shower.

I will be adding more oils and powders as I buy more things :grin: I just get the benefit from everything by mixing them all together, no need to do separate treatments. I hope this helps you guys out.

Remember, K.I.S.S.!!!!!
Hello Keisha, as you've been told countless times your hair truely beautiful, What lead me to this thread was Ayurvedic. I've been experimented with some of the oils Vatika, and want to try Amla as well as Neutral Henna when I came across your thread, not sure about the teas and what they'll do for my hair. I'm going to keep the page with your regimen, but if you have any time or advice, please feel free. Your beautiful hair is an inspiration.



Sincerly Anna
 
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