What type of relaxer do you use? Poll

What type of relaxer do you use? poll

  • LYE /Sodium hydroxide

    Votes: 59 57.8%
  • No Lye/ Calcium,Potassium, Guanidine,

    Votes: 41 40.2%
  • Amonium Thioglycolate

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Ammonium Bisulfite

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    102
  • Poll closed .

dancinstallion

Well-Known Member
I am just wondering if I am the only one who uses New Era Acid Relaxer on LHCF. So What type of relaxer do you use.

Acid is just the opposite of Alkaline and Both straighten hair. just acid relaxers don't get as straight. PH scale. Water is a 7.0 - 7.5. Acid is less than 7 and alkaline(lye, no lye, thio) are above a 7 and usually a 9-13 ph.

Acid relaxer have to use heat activated to straighten. If you just put the gel on it won't do anything, won't damage, won't burn, won't straighten it will just sit there until you activate it by heat. I usually sit under dryer 10 mins, then straighten/smooth my hair, then go under dryer again for 10 mins and repeat, until my curl pattern is looser. The straightening agent is Ammonium Bisulfate.
 
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dancinstallion

Well-Known Member
i never even heard of the bottom 2... what's that?!?!

Wave Nouveau and vigorol are Ammonium Thioglycolate relaxers and New Era is Ammonium Bisulfite relaxer. These are milder than lye or no lye and These can't be combined with lye or no lye ever.

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Mz.MoMo5235

Well-Known Member
Wave Nouveau and vigorol are Ammonium Thioglycolate relaxers and New Era is Ammonium Bisulfite relaxer. These can't be combined with lye or no lye.

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ooohhh!!!! see, i always thought wn was like a kiddie perm. like regular lye just more, like watered down i guess

lmfao and this is why i need to stay away from chemicals!
 

ajargon02

Well-Known Member
new era platinum relaxer
BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ONE...... it's not a new product. It's been around for years.

http://www.skinandaging.com/article/8380
The acid permanent method employed glycerol monothioglycolate and was ammonia-free. While it was slower, it was less aggressive to the hair. The reaction was endothermic, so it needed additional heat, which was supplied by a drier. The heat was necessary to increase the pH from 6.9 to 7.2.7


. The ammonium thioglycolate or glyceryl monothioglycolate in modern perms breaks down the bonds in the hair so that the hair can change its natural shape. The hydrogen peroxide in the neutralizer helps to rebuild these bonds and thus stops the perming action, letting your hair reform into a curled shape around your curlers.

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5992508_acid-vs_-alkaline-perm.html
Acid perms, because they use a more gentle formulation and process, tend to create looser waves.

http://dermnetnz.org/dermatitis/thioglycolate.html


http://www.ehow.com/facts_5992508_acid-vs_-alkaline-perm.html

  1. Candidates
  2. Those with strong, thick, and coarse hair are good candidates for alkaline perms. The potent formula works better on resistant hair types. Those with damaged hair, which is porous, will benefit more from the gentler acid perm or acid-balanced perm that processes faster than true acid waves.
 

dancinstallion

Well-Known Member
Same here.

When I went to the dermatologist for my scalp issue, he recommended that I use the Wave Nouveau relaxer. :look: I never tried it though.

Wave Nouveau is milder. That is probably why he recommended it.

I use Hawaiian Silky mild and it's lithium hydroxide.
I beleive lithium is no lye. I will add it. Thanks

new era platinum relaxer
BE CAREFUL WITH THIS ONE...... it's not a new product. It's been around for years.


Yea it is old school. And it seems like I am the only one using it.
 

Lavendar

Well-Known Member
Phytospecific 1. That New Era sounds like it's much gentler than a lye or no-lye relaxer due to the pH being lower. I think the term "acid" just scares people, but this just seems to be more acidic than regular relaxers and not actually acid because it's still above neutral pH. Alkaline products can burn the hair off your scalp too, which all lye and no-lye relaxers are.
 

dancinstallion

Well-Known Member
Phytospecific 1. That New Era sounds like it's much gentler than a lye or no-lye relaxer due to the pH being lower. I think the term "acid" just scares people, but this just seems to be more acidic than regular relaxers and not actually acid because it's still above neutral pH. Alkaline products can burn the hair off your scalp too, which all lye and no-lye relaxers are.

That is sooo true. A lye relaxer burned the hair off of my scalp at both temple( I don't think a base was put on first). It was as smooth as a baby's butt, I mean there was no hair left. It took 4 years to grow it back and it still isn't completely grown in. That is whay made me go natural and then to using New Era.

If I ever relax my daughters hair then it would be with a milder acid relaxer.
 

WorkInProgress88

Well-Known Member
Switched to lye about a year ago and havent looked back since, wished i would of made the switch earlier.

i've only used Mizani BB and Silk Elements with Shea Butter (brown jar) and i prefer the SE over the Mizani. For some reason the Mizani made my hair shed like none other :/
 
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