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I thought Zionism was just the idea of a Jewish homeland. Which Israel is. What's wrong with that?I think we need to distinguish between Judaism and Zionism. It is Zionism that is behind all the carnage. Many Jews don't want this. So to be against what Israel is doing is NOT ANTISEMITISM is it ANTIZIONISM.
I feel like I need a primer when it comes to some of this stuff. FRFR.I thought Zionism was just the idea of a Jewish homeland. Which Israel is. What's wrong with that?
It is an entire philosophy and the early creators were not necessarily gung ho for Judaism. They seized an opportunity. Even before this conflict, in September, I met some folks that happened to be Jewish and did not like the Zionists and their behavior since the '40s.I thought Zionism was just the idea of a Jewish homeland. Which Israel is. What's wrong with that?
The creation of Israel was a big ol' mess. Should have carved out a piece of Germany. Or, if the Brits and the US were so keen on it, giving them part of Scotland or Utah. That's what a lot of Jewish people react to, I think.It is an entire philosophy and the early creators were not necessarily gung ho for Judaism. They seized an opportunity. Even before this conflict, in September, I met some folks that happened to be Jewish and did not like the Zionists and their behavior since the '40s.
USA has not been a nice big brother to the Palestinians thus far...nice big brothers (like the USA) to defend it.
Definitely not. But hopefully, if this conflict spurs the 2-state solution,we're the ONLY country in the world with the wherewithal to support a new Palestine. If Egypt and Saudi were going to do it, they would have done it already.USA has not been a nice big brother to the Palestinians thus far...
The Israel lobbies are extremely powerful and they have bough practically everyone in congress. That is a factor that drives policy.Definitely not. But hopefully, if this conflict spurs the 2-state solution,we're the ONLY country in the world with the wherewithal to support a new Palestine. If Egypt and Saudi were going to do it, they would have done it already.
The problem has always been that NO ONE cares about the Palestinians. It's all talk.
Yes. And I think there's a lot of 'white guilt" for the Holocaust, and plus we made the mess in the first place by creating Israel out of land we didn't own. "The brown people don't matter, let's put these icky Jews there." A whole bunch of racism radiating out in every direction in that deal.The Israel lobbies are extremely powerful and they have bough practically everyone in congress. That is a factor that drives policy.
It really should have been Germany. They helped create this mess and should have been the ones to fix it.The creation of Israel was a big ol' mess. Should have carved out a piece of Germany. Or, if the Brits and the US were so keen on it, giving them part of Scotland or Utah. That's what a lot of Jewish people react to, I think.
But the truth is that the people who created Israel didn't want Jews around them either.
It was a big ol' mess. But it's been 80 years. It's a done deal. Now we need to get the Palestinians their own state and some nice big brothers (like the USA) to defend it.
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Khan Yunis on Monday. Yousef Masoud for The New York Times |
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Gaza City in October. Samar Abu Elouf for The New York Times |
You are always on the wrong propagandized side of things. Sad for you.She should go to Gaza and stand with her people. As a Western non-Muslim woman in the ME, she will do more laying down for the cause than standing but whatevs. I'll pay for her flight.
The sheer audacity of someone who pushes EVERY conspiracy theory on the internet using the word propagandized is tedious and offputting.You are always on the wrong side of things. Sad for you.