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Old 11-28-2008, 03:10 PM
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I am tired of having to wait get my hair relaxed when I really need it done. Where I live it is hard to find good hair dressers. So, I decided to have a back up plan while saving money like I did many years ago when young. I see there is soooo many box relaxers did not know where to start.

What is the best home relaxing kit for sure and briefly tell us why? Your opinions extremely are respected since I know this is the place for hair.

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1. Dr. Miracle - since is black man he better know better
2. Silk Elements - it has silk protein and olive oil
3. Organic Root Olive oil - has a nice conditioniong after treatment for what I remember back in the day.
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Old 11-28-2008, 03:16 PM
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I've been thinking about at home relaxing too. I've decided I'm gonna do the ORS because I've used it before. It was nice. I'm really scared though. I don't want my hair to fall out
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I've been thinking about at home relaxing too. I've decided I'm gonna do the ORS because I've used it before. It was nice. I'm really scared though. I don't want my hair to fall out
Just take your time. I am going to do mine with gloves off so I can feel new growth and section hair in four sections while oiling my scalp with vaseline. I think if you use for senstive scalp you should be fine.
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Without gloves? Will it hurt your skin?
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Old 11-28-2008, 03:34 PM
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Without gloves? Will it hurt your skin?
I am hoping it won't but I will put little vaseline on my fingers and I will have a towel to wipe off excess after each application. I am only using my fingers in the beginning to feel growth but all smoothing of hair will be done with a comb after I apply the relaxer to whole head.
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Default Re: The Best Box or Home Perm/Relaxer For Sure

If you like the relaxer your stylist uses, I would suggest keeping the same one. Even if it's one for stylists only, you should be able to find it online without much trouble.

I self relax with Phytospecific Index 2. I've been using this fo ryears with great results. From this site, I have learned about using the acv rinse to get to the white suds faster, using a silk protein mixed with the reconstructor which does wonders for my hair. I also do a deep protein and then moisture conditioning treatment the week before. It took me awhile to get over trying a thousand new things and find what works, but I did. Now, I relax every 11 - 12 weeks without a problem of breakage - all of the problems I used to have with my hair are gone, gone, gone and my hair is longer, softer, stronger, and healthier than it has ever been in my life.

If you've never relaxed before, read everything you can - there's a sticky here somewhere for the self-relaxers support, and Sista Slick has articles you can find here in stickies and online that will give you excellent information. If you choose not to use gloves, expect your nails to get dry, brittle, and break. Sally's has a brand of gloves called "Nimble Fingers" which fit the hand and make it easier to feel what you're doing, unlike the icky one size fits no one gloves that comes in relaxer kits.

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If you like the relaxer your stylist uses, I would suggest keeping the same one. Even if it's one for stylists only, you should be able to find it online without much trouble.

I self relax with Phytospecific Index 2. I've been using this fo ryears with great results. From this site, I have learned about using the acv rinse to get to the white suds faster, using a silk protein mixed with the reconstructor which does wonders for my hair. I also do a deep protein and then moisture conditioning treatment the week before. It took me awhile to get over trying a thousand new things and find what works, but I did. Now, I relax every 11 - 12 weeks without a problem of breakage - all of the problems I used to have with my hair are gone, gone, gone and my hair is longer, softer, stronger, and healthier than it has ever been in my life.

If you've never relaxed before, read everything you can - there's a sticky here somewhere for the self-relaxers support, and Sista Slick has articles you can find here in stickies and online that will give you excellent information. If you choose not to use gloves, expect your nails to get dry, brittle, and break. Sally's has a brand of gloves called "Nimble Fingers" which fit the hand and make it easier to feel what you're doing, unlike the icky one size fits no one gloves that comes in relaxer kits.

Be careful, be informed, and good luck.
Thanks for the tips I forgot about the Photyspecfic Relaxer. I remember reading threads about this relaxer in the past. I have been using Affirm at the hair dresser but wanted to try something else. I know Southerngirl also posted tips as well but thanks for reminding me of these relaxer tip threads. I will provide feedback.
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Default Re: The Best Box or Home Perm/Relaxer For Sure

This is a little off topic but does anyone know of any lye relazers in a box? I swear that no-lye always comes in a box with it's neutralizing conditioner and stuff. The lye ones seems to come in the tub by itself. Am I imagining this?
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This is a little off topic but does anyone know of any lye relazers in a box? I swear that no-lye always comes in a box with it's neutralizing conditioner and stuff. The lye ones seems to come in the tub by itself. Am I imagining this?
You are right. All the ones I saw a Sally's such as Revlon are just in the jar so I ignored those because I did not want to purchase items seperate. But, I guess people use there own stuff and just buy neutrilizing shampoo.
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I would buy the ORS.
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This is a little off topic but does anyone know of any lye relazers in a box? I swear that no-lye always comes in a box with it's neutralizing conditioner and stuff. The lye ones seems to come in the tub by itself. Am I imagining this?
You're not. I think most of the time it is assumed that lye will be used by a professional in a salon. So it comes in a tub in a larger quantity by itself. And the stylist will have all the other products because they purchase them separately in larger size. Most no lye box relaxers are going to be used at home by the regular consumer so they come with the little bottles.
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I Gentle Treatment. It always does the trick... either that or Motions (which everyone says doesn't straighten their hair, but it does great for me)
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I have used this in the past and everyone here seems to really love it. I am looking forward to trying it.

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I Gentle Treatment. It always does the trick... either that or Motions (which everyone says doesn't straighten their hair, but it does great for me)
THanks!! I have tried Gentle Treatment also in the past and like it. The problem now days for me is there are so many brands out there to choose from. I do remember needing a strong perm with the Motions brand.
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You're not. I think most of the time it is assumed that lye will be used by a professional in a salon. So it comes in a tub in a larger quantity by itself. And the stylist will have all the other products because they purchase them separately in larger size. Most no lye box relaxers are going to be used at home by the regular consumer so they come with the little bottles.
I also saw the alot of the small jars at Sallys by themselves. The same size jar in the boxes but just filled to the top.
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One thing to keep in mind - if you have been going to the salon to get your hair done - the stylist has NOT been using a box relaxer. The box relaxers are usually NO LYE. I have seen people damage their head by switching. If you are going to relax at home, get Mizani, Motions, Silk Elements (with Lye) or any other salon quality relaxer.... don't get the box or you will need a stylist and some scissors.
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One thing to keep in mind - if you have been going to the salon to get your hair done - the stylist has NOT been using a box relaxer. The box relaxers are usually NO LYE. I have seen people damage their head by switching. If you are going to relax at home, get Mizani, Motions, Silk Elements (with Lye) or any other salon quality relaxer.... don't get the box or you will need a stylist and some scissors.
Thanks I leaning on Silk Elements and maybe Mizani. I stretch my relaxers for 4 months so hair my be able to adjust to some changes.
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One thing to keep in mind - if you have been going to the salon to get your hair done - the stylist has NOT been using a box relaxer. The box relaxers are usually NO LYE. I have seen people damage their head by switching. If you are going to relax at home, get Mizani, Motions, Silk Elements (with Lye) or any other salon quality relaxer.... don't get the box or you will need a stylist and some scissors.

i would not assume the original poster had a lye relaxer just because she used to get her hair relaxed at a salon. some stylists use no-lye relaxers aka sensitive scalp relaxers. the only way for the op to know what type of relaxer her stylist used it to ask.
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i would not assume the original poster had a lye relaxer just because she used to get her hair relaxed at a salon. some stylists use no-lye relaxers aka sensitive scalp relaxers. the only way for the op to know what type of relaxer her stylist used it to ask.
This is good point because someone else made a similar statement. I got Affirm for sensitve scalp from my salon. I went to Affirm site to see if it was no lye or lye. The site does not say. Does anyone know for curosity sake?
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I am tired of having to wait get my hair relaxed when I really need it done. Where I live it is hard to find good hair dressers. So, I decided to have a back up plan while saving money like I did many years ago when young. I see there is soooo many box relaxers did not know where to start.

What is the best home relaxing kit for sure and briefly tell us why? Your opinions extremely respected since I know this is the place for hair.

Thanks

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1. Dr. Miracle - since is black man he better know better
2. Silk Elements - it has silk protein and olive oil
3. Organic Root Olive oil - has a nice conditioniong after treatment for what I remember back in the day.



I use ORS and i Love it
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