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Old 05-16-2008, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

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HS is an oldie but a goodie!!! It was one my mom's favorites for her clients, and it was on my rotation of relaxers when I was in high school. I do not recall ever having any problems with it back then.

Gym, I love how you break down your reviews with scientific info. I love a smart sista.

Sure is a nice feeling when you find a gem, isn't it? Post pics when you get a chance.
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WOW!

I forgot about HS- it used to be the STUFF!!!!

My hair was ALWAYS gawjess with it!

Gotta try this again-
I like the fact that it doesn't leave the calcium build-up.

Thanx, Gym!
I used to use HS too...religiously. I don't know why I ever stopped. I've been using ORS Lye Regular and I don't think I'll continue.

As always, thanks Gym!
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

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My day got off to a crappy start but the show must go on right

So I swing by the BSS because I was planning on relaxing my hair today. I picked up the Mizani regular since they didn't have the Mizani mild. I was about to check out and go but I stopped to look at some no mix no lye relaxers.

I have been researching them for a while now and basically the no mix no-lye relaxers are made with lithium hydroxide. Gentle treatment, cream of nature, revlon, Cantu, Hawaiian silky, they all make one.
In terms of professional brands, Vitale Pro has a lithium hydroxide relaxer that I wanted to try as does Epitome.

Lithium Hydroxide give the straightening of sodium hydroxide but it isn't as hard on the scalp. It also doesn't give you the same degree of mineral residue like Calcium hydroxide does. According to Vitale pro
"Lithium hydroxide is the most reactive (speed of penetration) and has the lowest molecular weight as compared to the other chemicals. Molecular weight is also related to the size of the molecule. The small size of the lithium hydroxide molecule means that it penetrates hair the easiest. The advantage is that a smaller quantity at a lower pH is needed to react efficiently with the hair. A low pH offers a low irritation/no burning effect, however the higher reactivity (penetration) nature of lithium means that it should not be used on hair that is over-porous such as damaged, weak or bleached hair. "

I decided to try it out because my scalp has been easily irritated lately and I didn't want to be burning easily and be underprocessed again. I choose the Hawaiian silky one.

So I based my scalp as usual with ampro base for sensitive scalp, set my timer and went to work with my sprush. I processed for a total of 15 minutes. I had to do a little corrective work today so I used more relaxer than normal but I still have enough for another touch up.

First off it doesn't stink (atleast not this formula). I also didn't get any scalp irritation. I only had one tingle and I didn't get that until I started rinsing. My felt like silk. Very smooth and soft. I also only got 3 shed hairs while rinsing. It straightens quickly and easily. I only smoothed one time. I followed with my usual relaxer steps and I am VERY VERY happy right now. I think I found something that I want to test out a little longer now. I want to go to a stylist for my next relaxer and I will probably take this relaxer with me or see if they will order the Vitale Pro Tenderheaded Relaxer which is their lithium hydroxide formula.

One of the concerns that has been raised before about lithium hydroxide relaxers is if the molecule can penetrate the scalp too much but I haven't found any research that supports that.

If you are satisfied with your relaxer then cool, I am not posting this to discourage people from using something that works but I will say that if you are one of those sensitive scalp ladies that is having problems with irritation from lye relaxers or is missing the smoothness and silky feeling that regular no lye can sometimes lack, then you might want to look into this as a possible alternative.

If I find anymore info about lithium hydroxide, I will add it here.
Gym, exactly which one did you use? what color is the writing on the jar? They have lots of formulas....
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

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WOW!

I forgot about HS- it used to be the STUFF!!!!

My hair was ALWAYS gawjess with it!

Gotta try this again-
I like the fact that it doesn't leave the calcium build-up.

Thanx, Gym!
I am just mad it took me this long to try it. Me and Artemis had talked about lithium hydroxide relaxers before but I didn't really think about trying it until now. I am really glad I did too. Even today my hair looks feels great and my scalp is not irritated. Before the relaxer, my scalp was really irritated and itchy and now, nothing. My friend Frannie said her stylist lets clients bring their own relaxer if she doesn't have what they want so I might bring my HS to her the next time I relax.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

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WOW!

I forgot about HS- it used to be the STUFF!!!!

My hair was ALWAYS gawjess with it!

Gotta try this again-
I like the fact that it doesn't leave the calcium build-up.

Thanx, Gym!
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Gym, exactly which one did you use? what color is the writing on the jar? They have lots of formulas....

This is the one. I used the regular strength. It wasn't until now that I was trying to find a picture of it that I see that they have a mild one. The regular is the orange one. I will see if I can find the mild no lye here after this jar is finished.

http://www.webplusbeauty.com/a0730101.html
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

Thanks for the detailed review, Gym! ARe you still using the same relaxer?
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Thanks for the detailed review, Gym! ARe you still using the same relaxer?
Yes...in a way

I got impatient last stretch and I bought a box kit because I was out of my HS. Bad Idea! It didn't break my hair or anything but it wasn't nearly as good and it jogged my memory of why I don't do traditional no lye. So last night I did a corrective with HS and my hair is much better.

Even the sodium hydroxide HS is nice. I really don't know why more people don't use it. They don't smell very strong and they are affordable. For 5.99, I get enough for two touchups. Another thing I like is that unlike alot of mild relaxers, I get perfectly texlaxed. Using mild gives me a little extra application time but it still packs enough punch to relax me properly. I too permanently color and I haven't had any problems maintaining my hair and I think part of it is due to this relaxer. If keeps your hair in great condition.
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

I had never heard of lithium hydroxide. Wow....
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Default Re: I tried a new relaxer..No lye Lithium Hydroxide

I tried a lithium hydroxide relaxer sometime last year. My results were not good at all. The sad thing is that I stared at the periodic table for a loooong time thinking and thinking (Hmmm this mighty small and electronegative).

This relaxer affected a section of my hair that is very sensitive to chemicals. It was my fault for trying to experiment.
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