Oil users: research on penetrative properties

AtlantaJJ

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OP - thanks for the information!

Neroli - I agree with you about using one oil for the nourishing properties and one for sealing. When I start doing my oil rinses, I;m going to use olive or coconut oil then as the final step use the jojoba to seal my ends.

This is great information. While reading the article, I had a flashback about having great success with overnight treatments with olive oil when I was in high school so I need to go back to doing what worked best for me.:yep:

Me too LMJenk - This article is very timely, the olive oil treatment were the truth for me too when I was in college, I had beautiful hair, I was doing it myself, pressing it and what not, and it was lovely!!

Great thread!! Great ideas!!:yep:
 

JazzyDez

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well....just to be clear, its not like jojoba was working well for me forever and I just read this thread and want to throw it out. The bottle is still sitting on my counter pretty much full and I was beginning to think that it may not be as useful as I thought. I know now to only use jojoba for sealing. :yep:

oh and thanks daaiyah for answering my other question about the jojoba. moisture can still pass through the oil just not as easily as through non coated strands.
 

Kurlee

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Avocado penetrstes too! According to these articles:thumbsup:. Just got into that and its great!:yep:
 
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Neroli

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Avocado penetrstes too! According to these articles:thumbsup:. Just got into that and its great!:yep:


Yeah, I kept saying only olive and coconut, prolly because I used those 2 in the past, but avacado is another penetrating oil. Good to have options :yep:
 
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chica_canella

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Yeah, I kept saying only olive and coconut, prolly because I used those 2 in the past, but avacado is another penetrating oil. Good to have options :yep:


Yeah, I found some articles that said that cocunut oil penetrates. Also Candy C has some avocado moisturizer which I believe probably works wonders. I have yet to click on the links but I would like to see some of the molecules of the olive oil.
 
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chica_canella

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For all you hair nerds (like me) who are interested in the how and why of oil penetration and protection of hair strands, I found the following links very interesting. Some of the research covers coconut oil, olive oil, mineral oil, and jojoba. I found it interesting that olive and coconut are both able to penetrate the hair shaft and prevent substantial protein loss. But because they absorb into the hair, heat and time keep them from forming a lasting film on the hair. If you have time read these, I see why so many people love coconut and olive.


http://thebeautybrains.com/2007/05/14/two-natural-oils-that-make-your-hair-shiny-and-strong/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...med.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...med.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16258695&dopt=AbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&list_uids=12715094&cmd=Retrieve&indexed=google


Oh, wow! I just clicked on the first link and realized that is the site where I first found out about cocunut oil! So cool that you found out by the same site.:yep:
 

daaiyah

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I think this is cool too. I have dedicated this week to trying to figure out why oil rinses are working so well for me. I ran across this during my research. I am so glad others find this interesting too.
 
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chica_canella

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"Coconut oil, being a triglyceride of lauric acid (principal fatty acid), has a high affinity for hair proteins and, because of its low molecular weight and straight linear chain, is able to penetrate inside the hair shaft."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&list_uids=12715094&cmd=Retrieve&indexed=google



Ok, I think I am finally understanding the scientific part. Since hair is made up of mostly protein, the cocunut oil is attracted to the protein of our hair which is basically saying it is attracted to our hair. Meaning to me, it goes deep within the structure of essentially what hair is, mainly proteins while mineral oil does not.
 
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chica_canella

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I think this is cool too. I have dedicated this week to trying to figure out why oil rinses are working so well for me. I ran across this during my research. I am so glad others find this interesting too.


Yeah, you got me off looking now for cocunut oil molecule pics versus other oils. But I read on another site that olive oil doesn't penetrate so now I am confused.:perplexed
 

Neroli

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Yeah, you got me off looking now for cocunut oil molecule pics versus other oils. But I read on another site that olive oil doesn't penetrate so now I am confused.:perplexed


Oh, oh, olive oil doesn't penetrate? LOL! That's what I mean about not being so quick to the draw whenever there's new information. Always another "study" out here contradicting, :rolleyes: Please share what you find out . . .

Daaiyah, Girl, you got something good going here and I know I've enjoyed learning about these oils and look forward to even more information.:yep:
 
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chica_canella

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Oh, oh, olive oil doesn't penetrate? LOL! That's what I mean about not being so quick to the draw whenever there's new information. Always another "study" out here contradicting, :rolleyes: Please share what you find out . . .

Daaiyah, Girl, you got something good going here and I know I've enjoyed learning about these oils and look forward to even more information.:yep:


I know it is just like the health studies. One year coffee is good for you and the next it isn't. I may have posted in another thread, I'm not sure but I went looking for the site and either don't remember my search
term and def don't rem. the name of the site.

So I will have to experiment or one of you guys can and let me know how it works with olive oil, preferrably someone with a 3b texture thin strands, thick density.:lachen:

Just remembered I'm telaxed to 3b now.:spinning:
 

Neroli

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I know it is just like the health studies. One year coffee is good for you and the next it isn't. I may have posted in another thread, I'm not sure but I went looking for the site and either don't remember my search
term and def don't rem. the name of the site.

So I will have to experiment or one of you guys can and let me know how it works with olive oil, preferrably someone with a 3b texture thin strands, thick density.:lachen:

Just remembered I'm telaxed to 3b now.:spinning:

Yep. Those health studies so bad, they'll have have you spinning if you pay tooooo much attention. :drunk: I just try to use good ole common sense and PRAY for the best!

Well, I don't have any coconut or avocado on hand (and until we get the DEFINITIVE answer to these oils, I ain't shelling out any $$$ to buy new oils right now :nono:) soooo with fingers crossed, I'mma try olive oil when I wash on saturday and let yall know how it goes if no else gets to it before then. But, I'm 4b, texlaxed, thin strands, very thick, very dense . . .
 

AtlantaJJ

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I think this is cool too. I have dedicated this week to trying to figure out why oil rinses are working so well for me. I ran across this during my research. I am so glad others find this interesting too.
Hi,

Please tell me what is an oil rinse and how do you do one? I'm very intersted in the oils, I used to use olive oil as a pre-poo and my hair was super strong, never dry. I'd like to try an oil rinse...details please :grin:
 

Mestiza

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This is excellent info. :yep: Thank you so much for sharing it! :grin:

I wonder into what category Grapeseed, Soybean and Peanut oils fall.
 
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Buttercreme

Active Member
This great info. couldn't have came at a better time!

My DD hair always looked dry even after I moisturized heavily. This morning I decided to change the order of the moisturizer and oils.

The result: Her looked looked super quenched, moist and shiny. It looked like it was wet.

Thanks again.
 

Josie

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Thanks so much, Daaiyah, for posting this article. This information has been so helpful to me. Many years ago, I used jojoba on my (relaxed) hair, and it made my hair soft and shiny. However, recently I've been using it mostly on my scalp, thinking it was a penetrating oil. I would never have thought to use it to seal my ends!

Thanks again for this great information!!!
 
For all you hair nerds (like me) who are interested in the how and why of oil penetration and protection of hair strands, I found the following links very interesting. Some of the research covers coconut oil, olive oil, mineral oil, and jojoba. I found it interesting that olive and coconut are both able to penetrate the hair shaft and prevent substantial protein loss. But because they absorb into the hair, heat and time keep them from forming a lasting film on the hair. If you have time read these, I see why so many people love coconut and olive.


http://thebeautybrains.com/2007/05/14/two-natural-oils-that-make-your-hair-shiny-and-strong/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...ez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...med.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/e...med.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=16258695&dopt=AbstractPlus
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&list_uids=12715094&cmd=Retrieve&indexed=google


Thanks great info. I love olive oil
 

PinkPebbles

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This is an excellent thread! Does anyone know if Vitamin E oil is a penetrating or non-penetrating oil?


Wow, thanks for the great info. I will now look at oils differently and will prolly use them according to what I wish to accomplish for my hair. After reading these article, I think there is a place for the penetrating oils like coconut and olive when you want to nourish and feed oils INSIDE the hair shaft. And a place for non-penetrating oils, like jojoba, sunflower, etc. when you want to seal and protect the hair by creating a lubricating layer on the outside of the hair shaft. IMO:

penetrating oil = nourish the inside of each strand
non-penetrating oil = seal and protect the outside of each strand

For example, I would use a non-penetrating oil like jojoba on my ends to seal and protect, rather than coconut, which will go straight inside the hair but leave the outside unprotected. At least that's how I'm thinking about it now . . .
 
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