I am convinced Haitian women have a hair secret....

zora

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Sorry ladies,

I didn't see the posts. I bought the oil from a Haitian street vendor in Brooklyn. It was five bucks. I don't have a digital camera, but I'll try to bring it into work and have them do it. My co-workers are going to think I'm crazy, but let me work on it.
 

Mahalialee4

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Zora...could you please describe this Haitian oil in detail and what does it smell like and what is the color exactly? What would you compare the consistency to? Thank you.Bonjour
 

An_Original_Copy

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I read a thread about what the women of the older generation used such as sulfur 8 grease and the like, and maybe they learned this from an older member who told them what to use for their hair. Black women, including myself sometimes get caught up in looking for products with the word "growth/grow" on it that we may overlook certain things. I noticed lately that I should start using products that are meant to curb dandruff, because those contain MSM or sulfur, or both. I found a great shampoo at Whole Foods Market today. It's called "Jason Dandruff Relief Shampoo" in a dark brown bottle with a white label. I don't mean to suggest they use this EXACT shampoo, but maybe they're using dandruff products and sulfur products?
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By the way, I'm new here, but lurked for a year and a half. You all don't know me, but I like all you guys here and kinda feel like i know your personalites already :)
 

bluediamond0829

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well ive asked several haitan girls that have beautfiul long and thick hair what their secret was...but they just state that there is none...even my friend from Trindad has very beautiful long hair about bra strap length...and says there is no secret...just taking care of yourself(eating right, washing and conditioning, not using too much heat, sleeping in a satin scarf, taking vitamins)...i believe this...because i know i was one of them that had a head full of hair when i was younger past my shoulders to be exact..and we just have to remember what our mothers use to use(Crown Royale, Sulfur 8 etc.) on our heads and what they use to do and go back to this method(braiding)..
 
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lkg4healthyhair

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My mother in law who is Haitian gave this to me last weekend. She told it would help with my hair line and everyone in her family had great results with it.

I can see why since is has minoxdil in it.

There was only a little in the bottle so I will get some more today and use it on my hair line only.

Anyone else have results with this product:



The bottle I have is all in French
 

CoveredGirl

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lkg4healthyhair said:
My mother in law who is Haitian gave this to me last weekend. She told it would help with my hair line and everyone in her family had great results with it.

I can see why since is has minoxdil in it.

There was only a little in the bottle so I will get some more today and use it on my hair line only.

Anyone else have results with this product:



The bottle I have is all in French

I know this sells like hot cakes in most Miami BSS's, and EVERYBODY swears by it. Only thing is it contains Minoxidil (think Rogaine and Regrow) which requires continued usage to keep whatever growth. One of my mother's friends has been using it for YEARS all over and she has very thick and mid-back length hair so it does something but nobody knows exactly what or how.. :ohwell:
 

CoveredGirl

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This thread reminds me... Has anyone tried the Betty Hutton Hair Pouss Plus?? Its been sold out all over the internet for months and I finally found it locally.
 

bluediamond0829

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my question is because i keep seeing people say that if you stop using minoval that your hair will fall out...but what would be the reason for you to stop using it though??? because if i found a product that gave me a great amount of growth and benefited my hair and i knew that it was this one product...i wldnt discontinue using it...i mean yes i understand the fact that some products do not work after time but im just like why would it??? ...im thinking about picking some up later? i tried Regrow...but i wasnt constitstent with it...and it was kind of expensive for the little bottle that they had in the kit...
 
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lkg4healthyhair

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bluediamond0829 said:
my question is because i keep seeing people say that if you stop using minoval that your hair will fall out...but what would be the reason for you to stop using it though??? because if i found a product that gave me a great amount of growth and benefited my hair and i knew that it was this one product...i wldnt discontinue using it...i mean yes i understand the fact that some products do not work after time but im just like why would it??? ...im thinking about picking some up later? i tried Regrow...but i wasnt constitstent with it...and it was kind of expensive for the little bottle that they had in the kit...

I have read this on several threads and I hope this will clear it up.

Once you stop using the product your hair will not fall out. Minoxidil (key ingredient in Minoval drops) will help stop your hair from thinning and stimiluate growth. If you discontinue use your hair will go back to thinning as it was before you started using the product.

The hair growth you gained from using the product is yours to keep. Now of course like any drug some people can have allergic reactions etc. then this product is not for them....If you have a bald spot or thin edges Minoval is a great product to help grow back the hairs. If you stop using it the hair you achieved will not fall out.

Now if your hair is thinning...once you stop using this product it will start to thin again.

HTH

Please see information below:
www.minoval.net.htm
Minoval Lotion and Minoval Plus Hair Conditioner
Minoval Lotion helps prevent hair loss, and stimulates new growth, at the root.
How??
1) Minoval stimulates and enlarges hair follicles that have shrunken over time due to a combination of hormonal activity and heredity. So it's actually reversing the hair loss process.
2) MINOVAL also prolongs the growth period of hair. In the natural life cycle of the hair, a growth phase alternates with a resting phase. When your hair has extended growth phases, it is able to become thicker and longer.

Because Minoval counteracts the process of hair thinning, if you stop using it, the hair thinning process will begin again. It's the ongoing daily regimen that ensures your hair regrowth success. Think about it — you already have a hair and makeup routine. Adding Minoval to your daily hair care is affordable and easy to apply and the benefits will be rewarding.

Minoval Plus will help restore damaged hair, and prevent breakage.

Use both Minoval and Minoval Plus for thicker and longer hair.
 
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lkg4healthyhair

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Baha_Ma said:
This thread reminds me... Has anyone tried the Betty Hutton Hair Pouss Plus?? Its been sold out all over the internet for months and I finally found it locally.

What is this?

Thanks
 

bklyncurly

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bluediamond0829 said:
well ive asked several haitan girls that have beautfiul long and thick hair what their secret was...but they just state that there is none...even my friend from Trindad has very beautiful long hair about bra strap length...and says there is no secret...just taking care of yourself(eating right, washing and conditioning, not using too much heat, sleeping in a satin scarf, taking vitamins)...i believe this...because i know i was one of them that had a head full of hair when i was younger past my shoulders to be exact..and we just have to remember what our mothers use to use(Crown Royale, Sulfur 8 etc.) on our heads and what they use to do and go back to this method(braiding)..

Exactly! Wow, I travelled back in time for a minute! My mother used to use Long Aid, Dax, Crown Royal, Blue Magic, etc. I think the trick was that my mother never, ever blow dried my hair. Our routine was wash 1x/week, braid, air dry overnight. Hot press in the morning, then immediately put up to keep the air off of it. I was never allowed to play in my hair (because "you're going to ruin your hair") and absolutely positiviely wasn't allowed to let anyone else play in my hair, or use anyone else's comb or brush! I had a long brastrap hair.

Now that I think back on it. My mother gave me great advice!:)
 

Ntrlmystik

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I don't know if I am being redundant but I am a Haitian woman and I don't think there is any secret. Though many Haitians do have thick hair, I think its due to the the mixture of cultures, African/ Indian/French/Spanish I have thick hair that shows more growth when I take care of i than when I am not. The pic you are looking at is taken less than a year after I cut my hair down to afew inches. About the l'huille masquerite (excuse the spelling ) its palm nut oil, which I do put in my hair. Its a great moisturizer which keeps hair hydrated. So using that probably prevents breakage from dryness. There is also a company named Ojon that manufacters the same product claiming that its only available in Central America but its the same oil found in Haiti

www.ojonhaircare.com
 

Naijaqueen

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Ntrlmystik said:
I don't know if I am being redundant but I am a Haitian woman and I don't think there is any secret. Though many Haitians do have thick hair, I think its due to the the mixture of cultures, African/ Indian/French/Spanish I have thick hair that shows more growth when I take care of i than when I am not. The pic you are looking at is taken less than a year after I cut my hair down to afew inches. About the l'huille masquerite (excuse the spelling ) its palm nut oil, which I do put in my hair. Its a great moisturizer which keeps hair hydrated. So using that probably prevents breakage from dryness. There is also a company named Ojon that manufacters the same product claiming that its only available in Central America but its the same oil found in Haiti

www.ojonhaircare.com


Palm nut oil, as in the red palm oil see throughout West Africa as well??
 

bluediamond0829

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i just asked a coworker that is haitian that has some very pretty shoulder length maybe in between shoulder and collar bone length hair...and very thick...if she has ever heard of minoval...she says she has and has used it...but she says that she is going to get her mother to send it to her from Haiti because it is cheaper over there..she said that her hairdresser also pushes her people to use it and sales it at her salon....she says that her sister uses it also...but ive never saw what her sisters hair looks like...
 

Dare~to~Dream

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CarLiTa said:
HEY i just looked at the "ampoules" from the website, and I remember this from when I was young! my mother and her sisters used to use that on their hair.

How did they use it? From my understanding it's a treatment you use before shampooing your hair and scalp...right? I've been interested in this product but I'm not sure what other products I might need to reap the benefits from it.
 

tryn2growmyhair

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I found out what the hair secret is -- or at least part of it. That huile masketi stuff. I tried it and instantly noticed a difference in my hair! It is even better than Ojon which I tried as well. Ojon maybe has a drop of the huile masketi ingredient in it. Great stuff. Also, I think someone might have said that they tried to use African red palm oil and it stained their clothes. The huile masketi will not stain your clothes. Good stuff.
 

Mahalialee4

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NTRLMYStyk! How do you get around the staining problem when you use the Red Palm Oil in your hair? I have heard that there is a white oil of this kind...is that true and is it as effective? Bonjour
 

tryn2growmyhair

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Lanelle said:
What kind of differences have you noticed?
It is much more moisturizing than most oils. My hair is dry, dry,dry and this has worked better for me than many oils. Be careful not to add too much becuase it is kind of sticky.
 

Dare~to~Dream

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tryn2growmyhair said:
It is much more moisturizing than most oils. My hair is dry, dry,dry and this has worked better for me than many oils.

Where did you get the oil(s) and how much did it cost? How do you use it? Hot oil treatment? Ends treatment?
 

lisajames96

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puritans pride sells a red palm oil and crabapple soap sells a homogenized palm oil...what does homogenized mean anyway?...

-lisa:cool:
 

Naijaqueen

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lisajames96 said:
puritans pride sells a red palm oil and crabapple soap sells a homogenized palm oil...what does homogenized mean anyway?...

-lisa:cool:

red palm oil can be found at any African/Caribbean or Asian store if you live in any of the big cities
 

ekomba

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huile masketi and minoval really work wonders for me. i asked one of my haitian friend in new york what makes her hair grow she told me nutrine garlic poo so i bought it then i read this thread and talk to her about huile mmasketi and minoval even though shes my friend, she was shocked and told me how do you know about that, like that's their stuff, ? she said let me find out what do you know about huile masketi.i was like what the big secret about and she told me that a grandmother is the one that either makes it back home and do it in their homes and stuff and her hairdresser that is haitian has a concoction that she only sells to her clients and that she makes. i mean why people dont want to spill the beans and when they see you know then they willing to talk a little so finally i asked her where to buy the masketi and she sent me to bk in the haitian neighbourhood at church ave and told me to ask any street vendor and i saw a woman with a van approached her and ask her for castor oil and you can tell its homemade because its in a alcohol rum bottle and its black and smells nutty but thanks mahalialee for reviving this thread it reminds me to pressure my friend and ask her to ask her hairdresser what she puts in her magic concoction and better yet i need to speak to her grandma about them recipes nobody has a haitian grandma? see knowledge should be handed down from a generation to another i wish i knew all their secrets i may have to go myself to haiti interview grown folks and act like im a reporter ahahah :grin:

oh by the way my other friend who is from Martinique french west indies when i told her about huile masketi and that it was growing my hair fast by keeping it moisturized came to my house and i let her smell it and she say this is the same thing they use in their island to grow hair but it has a different name she said it but i forgot i have to ask her. and that you supposed to put very little and plait the hair thats funny how this castor oil concoction is used in different islands under different names but is the same thing its black consistent and nutty smell
 

bluediamond0829

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ekomba said:
huile masketi and minoval really work wonders for me. i asked one of my haitian friend in new york what makes her hair grow she told me nutrine garlic poo so i bought it then i read this thread and talk to her about huile mmasketi and minoval even though shes my friend, she was shocked and told me how do you know about that, like that's their stuff, ? she said let me find out what do you know about huile masketi.i was like what the big secret about and she told me that a grandmother is the one that either makes it back home and do it in their homes and stuff and her hairdresser that is haitian has a concoction that she only sells to her clients and that she makes. i mean why people dont want to spill the beans and when they see you know then they willing to talk a little so finally i asked her where to buy the masketi and she sent me to bk in the haitian neighbourhood at church ave and told me to ask any street vendor and i saw a woman with a van approached her and ask her for castor oil and you can tell its homemade because its in a alcohol rum bottle and its black and smells nutty but thanks mahalialee for reviving this thread it reminds me to pressure my friend and ask her to ask her hairdresser what she puts in her magic concoction and better yet i need to speak to her grandma about them recipes nobody has a haitian grandma? see knowledge should be handed down from a generation to another i wish i knew all their secrets i may have to go myself to haiti interview grown folks and act like im a reporter ahahah :grin:

oh by the way my other friend who is from Martinique french west indies when i told her about huile masketi and that it was growing my hair fast by keeping it moisturized came to my house and i let her smell it and she say this is the same thing they use in their island to grow hair but it has a different name she said it but i forgot i have to ask her. and that you supposed to put very little and plait the hair thats funny how this castor oil concoction is used in different islands under different names but is the same thing its black consistent and nutty smell


well i got kind of afraid of using the minoval because of reading so many things that said that if you dont continue using it that my hair would fall out..and plus i went and ordered the mtg and started using that...but i think i have a few drops mixed in with it...i cant stand the smell of the minoval plus(it comes in a orange small container and is orange)...but where do you find the huile masketi..can i go online and purchase it?...
 

ekomba

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i used the minoval drops for $7.99 for more than 10 months my hair never fell out, i did not reorder the mtg because i was lazy even though it worked but decided first to use the products i still had in my house i dont use the minoval pomade i used it before but nothing special just the drops the huile masketi i used to dilute it with the mtg and i got 1.5 each month instead of 0.25-0.5. I buy the huile masketi in new york i take the train to church ave i think the d train and when you get out there are women vendors that sell their homemade ones from haiti right there. you wont see it usually they sell peanuts and little soaps you just ask them if they have castor oil masketi and they will go to their vans. if you not in new york, you can try to locate a haitian store or hair salon or ask haitians that live nearby where you can buy the homemade one. i dont know about any website that sells the real one thats homemade usually the people cook/roast the nuts and everything and add ingredients to it and dont put it in commercial bottles but any bottles its not like a commercialised product but they make it and come to sell it
 

Naijaqueen

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huile masketi is also seen in parts of Africa, I know for sure its in Nigeria, my mom was like eeeew when she smelled my black Jamaican castor oil and was like thats what my grandmother and her people used for everything, body aches and all, and as kids we disliked it cause of the smell. Its oil from the palm nut kernel.
I'm guessing black Jamaican castor oil is the same thing.
 
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