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Heck he told a bunch of college students, who more than likely were attending on student loans, to ask their parents for $20k and take a risk and start a business.......he even tried to bet someone $10k on an issue regular people don't have $10k to place an everyday bet with.
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THIS is indicative of being out of touch. Not knowing the price of milk is not.
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What is this thing people have with demanding whether politicians know the price of some random item at the grocery store?
I can't honestly say I could quote the exact price of milk even though I buy it whenever I go to the store. What exactly is this supposed to prove or measure? No snark intended I just don't get it.
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my point was people who don't know how expensive stuff is or who aren't being effected by the economy are out of touch with reality.
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In Romneys case it shows he is out of touch with the middle class, poor and everyday Jack and Jill - Heck he told a bunch of college students, who more than likely were attending on student loans, to ask their parents for $20k and take a risk and start a business.......he even tried to bet someone $10k on an issue regular people don't have $10k to place an everyday bet with.
So he is not one that I believe would understand my issues with needing affordable healthcare and with no pre existing conditions loophole or needing a job that pays a LIVING wage, or understanding how much housing costs - he and Ann "struggled" in college with no job by living off of Romneys stock investment  - Michelle and Barack paid of their college loans within the last 7 or so years.
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What a jerk. My parents don't just have 20k laying around to give me. That was a horrible thing to say. And it shows that he has no clue about what the average American family is dealing with.
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As I said I don't but my faith in any of these politicians they are all liars and will say and do anything to get a vote. It is always a decision of what is the lesser of two evils. I have to ask myself does a man who believes that everyone should have the same rights under the law regardless of the sexual orientation worst than a man who believes that children whose parents cannot afford healthcare should die or receive substandard healthcare? God is my provider and he provided my with the funds to go to college through financial aid, the same aid that Obama wants to increase and that Romney wants to cut.
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I hope you're not applying this scripture to Obama... this is not what his intentions were nor is it anywhere in his heart.
This man changes his spots and stripes to what benefits him and no one else. He says just enough to get 'Christians' to believe him; there's very little he has to say to get most Blacks to support him, for it's the color of his skin that drew us to him in the first place. And out of all of the people who love him 'most', we're the ones for whom he has done the least for. The very least.
gay is in and Blacks are out. The new 'affirmative action' will be for gays and Blacks will be pushed even further down the pipes. No other group of people are being hailed and rallied for than gays. Black was already a faded gray but now even more erased and invisible...and pushed behind yet another group of people ... gays. And Black gays will not benefit equal to white gays. Noooooppppe
Oh Really? Yes... indeed Really! Look at the media, who do you see most represented and for whom (which group of people) does one receive the most flack from? gays! Say something negative about a gay person, lawsuits and angry mobs come out the wood work like mad roaches and rats in a New York alley.
I've yet to see a president give so much favour and attention to any one set of people than Obama has to gays. If his wife and children weren't Black, I'd dare say the man didn't like Black folks at all.
Here's a fact and watch for it to happen. Watch for it. You won't have long to wait...just watch for it.
Before the end of this election, gays are going to pull at him for more and what he doesn't deliver they are going to drag him through the mud.
Obama is STILL Black and highly disliked for being a Black man in the White House. An attack is surely coming against him and gays will not support him. But Black folks will. Oh indeed, cause that's how Black people are, no matter how wronged they are by someone they love, they will still come to the rescue of their own. Right now, knowing full well how wrong Obama has been, there are millions of Blacks who still love and support him, no matter what.
He used us... Oh yes he did. He used us. We prayed for this man, protected this man, supported this man and he used us. Of all of the candidates, why could he not be different and not be like the rest? Why did he have to be a liar and a trickster? Why could he not just stand upon integrity and not compromise the true character of a man and not be a politician? He used us and he lied. And for this alone, I have lost all respect for him.
I could care less about Mitt Romney and whoever any of them are.
But this one.... Obama, I expected more from him in character and in intergrity. He's a snake, no different than any of the rest and for this he's lost me. It's a game to him and I refused to be played. Why did he have to lie? Why did he have to cheat? Why did he use the very people who loved him, not just the most, but the very people who loved him period? We didn't have enough to get him where he wanted to be, that's why.
The gay agenda has MONEY... Hundreds and Hundreds of Millions and this will cause a man who wants power to fail each and every time. Obama isn't about gay equality. They were never not equal. There were always laws to give them hospital visits and care for their children.
Don't be fooled ... It's time to turn away from the deceptions of man which includes Obama and focus upon God and no one else.
Obama will not be able to save anyone. His heart is not with us... it is on himself.
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I've yet to see a president give so much favour and attention to any one set of people than Obama has to gays. If his wife and children weren't Black, I'd dare say the man didn't like Black folks at all.
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I read/ lurk and try not to say much but that is going to far. Why do you have to stoop low like that? Obama doesn't like black people? 
On twitter someone asked why Obama seems to like "everyone else but blacks" and won't support their issues. The answer is that we are too confused ourselves to give politicians something to fight on. Gays gave Obama Gay Marriage: Do you believe in it YES OR NO. Immigrants (mostly Latino) gave Obama the Dream Act YES OR NO.
We just tell obama "make our lives great!" thats no politics. Lets give him a bill to work with. Something centered around prison or education, something clear.
smh lets try to not sling mud..
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I will not be voting for Romeny-I can't as a black or as a woman. While I'm not in love with Obama I never hailed him as the second coming as so many people did so my disappointment isn't as great. For me the gay issue isn't about right and wrong it is about freedom of religion. Should someone, who doesn't believe the same way I do, be allowed to have the rights that I have in this country? My answer is yes so I have no problem with gay marriage. But people tend to view this issue as a moral one rather than an issue of rights and freedom of religion. As long as our politicians continue to try to frame the issue as a moral decision they will continue to distract us from the real issues in our government. The decision to dissolve the rights of women, erase the middle class, and cut social programs for the poor and elderly will be completely ignored because of the marriage issue.
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I hope you're not applying this scripture to Obama... this is not what his intentions were nor is it anywhere in his heart.
This man changes his spots and stripes to what benefits him and no one else. He says just enough to get 'Christians' to believe him; there's very little he has to say to get most Blacks to support him, for it's the color of his skin that drew us to him in the first place. And out of all of the people who love him 'most', we're the ones for whom he has done the least for. The very least.
gay is in and Blacks are out. The new 'affirmative action' will be for gays and Blacks will be pushed even further down the pipes. No other group of people are being hailed and rallied for than gays. Black was already a faded gray but now even more erased and invisible...and pushed behind yet another group of people ... gays. And Black gays will not benefit equal to white gays. Noooooppppe
Oh Really? Yes... indeed Really! Look at the media, who do you see most represented and for whom (which group of people) does one receive the most flack from? gays! Say something negative about a gay person, lawsuits and angry mobs come out the wood work like mad roaches and rats in a New York alley.
I've yet to see a president give so much favour and attention to any one set of people than Obama has to gays. If his wife and children weren't Black, I'd dare say the man didn't like Black folks at all.
Here's a fact and watch for it to happen. Watch for it. You won't have long to wait...just watch for it.
Before the end of this election, gays are going to pull at him for more and what he doesn't deliver they are going to drag him through the mud.
Obama is STILL Black and highly disliked for being a Black man in the White House. An attack is surely coming against him and gays will not support him. But Black folks will. Oh indeed, cause that's how Black people are, no matter how wronged they are by someone they love, they will still come to the rescue of their own. Right now, knowing full well how wrong Obama has been, there are millions of Blacks who still love and support him, no matter what.
He used us... Oh yes he did. He used us. We prayed for this man, protected this man, supported this man and he used us. Of all of the candidates, why could he not be different and not be like the rest? Why did he have to be a liar and a trickster? Why could he not just stand upon integrity and not compromise the true character of a man and not be a politician? He used us and he lied. And for this alone, I have lost all respect for him.
I could care less about Mitt Romney and whoever any of them are.
But this one.... Obama, I expected more from him in character and in intergrity. He's a snake, no different than any of the rest and for this he's lost me. It's a game to him and I refused to be played. Why did he have to lie? Why did he have to cheat? Why did he use the very people who loved him, not just the most, but the very people who loved him period? We didn't have enough to get him where he wanted to be, that's why.
The gay agenda has MONEY... Hundreds and Hundreds of Millions and this will cause a man who wants power to fail each and every time. Obama isn't about gay equality. They were never not equal. There were always laws to give them hospital visits and care for their children.
Don't be fooled ... It's time to turn away from the deceptions of man which includes Obama and focus upon God and no one else.
Obama will not be able to save anyone. His heart is not with us... it is on himself.
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O.K. I don't know what blacks expected him to do for them that they couldn't do for themselves. I hear blacks say that but then I ask what was he supposed to do? They have no idea. Some people really did think they were voting for Superman. I actually felt sad when he was elected. With the poor economy (not much anyone can do about it), 2 wars, and a health care agenda I knew he was facing a situation that he couldn't win.
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What a jerk. My parents don't just have 20k laying around to give me. That was a horrible thing to say. And it shows that he has no clue about what the average American family is dealing with.
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True - he is probably a great PERSON, husband and father but just like if you were gong to trial you would want a jury of your peers....well in the case of the Presidency I want someone closer to being my peer and that happens to be Obama this time around.
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I hope you're not applying this scripture to Obama... this is not what his intentions were nor is it anywhere in his heart.
This man changes his spots and stripes to what benefits him and no one else. He says just enough to get 'Christians' to believe him; there's very little he has to say to get most Blacks to support him, for it's the color of his skin that drew us to him in the first place. And out of all of the people who love him 'most', we're the ones for whom he has done the least for. The very least.
gay is in and Blacks are out. The new 'affirmative action' will be for gays and Blacks will be pushed even further down the pipes. No other group of people are being hailed and rallied for than gays. Black was already a faded gray but now even more erased and invisible...and pushed behind yet another group of people ... gays. And Black gays will not benefit equal to white gays. Noooooppppe
Oh Really? Yes... indeed Really! Look at the media, who do you see most represented and for whom (which group of people) does one receive the most flack from? gays! Say something negative about a gay person, lawsuits and angry mobs come out the wood work like mad roaches and rats in a New York alley.
I've yet to see a president give so much favour and attention to any one set of people than Obama has to gays. If his wife and children weren't Black, I'd dare say the man didn't like Black folks at all.
Here's a fact and watch for it to happen. Watch for it. You won't have long to wait...just watch for it.
Before the end of this election, gays are going to pull at him for more and what he doesn't deliver they are going to drag him through the mud.
Obama is STILL Black and highly disliked for being a Black man in the White House. An attack is surely coming against him and gays will not support him. But Black folks will. Oh indeed, cause that's how Black people are, no matter how wronged they are by someone they love, they will still come to the rescue of their own. Right now, knowing full well how wrong Obama has been, there are millions of Blacks who still love and support him, no matter what.
He used us... Oh yes he did. He used us. We prayed for this man, protected this man, supported this man and he used us. Of all of the candidates, why could he not be different and not be like the rest? Why did he have to be a liar and a trickster? Why could he not just stand upon integrity and not compromise the true character of a man and not be a politician? He used us and he lied. And for this alone, I have lost all respect for him.
I could care less about Mitt Romney and whoever any of them are.
But this one.... Obama, I expected more from him in character and in intergrity. He's a snake, no different than any of the rest and for this he's lost me. It's a game to him and I refused to be played. Why did he have to lie? Why did he have to cheat? Why did he use the very people who loved him, not just the most, but the very people who loved him period? We didn't have enough to get him where he wanted to be, that's why.
The gay agenda has MONEY... Hundreds and Hundreds of Millions and this will cause a man who wants power to fail each and every time. Obama isn't about gay equality. They were never not equal. There were always laws to give them hospital visits and care for their children.
Don't be fooled ... It's time to turn away from the deceptions of man which includes Obama and focus upon God and no one else.
Obama will not be able to save anyone. His heart is not with us... it is on himself.
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I'm not one of those who was looking for Obama to "save" me for anyone who thought like that shame on them.......I don't look for any person or any President to "save" me.
Perhaps those who were looking for Obama to "save" them are now against him because they feel as if he didn't "save" them.....well that was not his job.
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I will not be voting for Romeny-I can't as a black or as a woman. While I'm not in love with Obama I never hailed him as the second coming as so many people did so my disappointment isn't as great. For me the gay issue isn't about right and wrong it is about freedom of religion. Should someone, who doesn't believe the same way I do, be allowed to have the rights that I have in this country? My answer is yes so I have no problem with gay marriage. But people tend to view this issue as a moral one rather than an issue of rights and freedom of religion. As long as our politicians continue to try to frame the issue as a moral decision they will continue to distract us from the real issues in our government. The decision to dissolve the rights of women, erase the middle class, and cut social programs for the poor and elderly will be completely ignored because of the marriage issue.
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Well said....and those are the issues I will base my vote on....for or against gay marriage won't put food on my table, access to affordable health care, a job, a college education for my children etc etc and at this point I am afraid Romney is clueless about those issues so he is not the candidate for me and my family.
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So many try and get us to vote republican but I figure out that they are not truly pro-life if they want to save the fetus but don't give a damn after he's born.
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O.K. I don't know what blacks expected him to do for them that they couldn't do for themselves. I hear blacks say that but then I ask what was he supposed to do? They have no idea. Some people really did think they were voting for Superman. I actually felt sad when he was elected. With the poor economy (not much anyone can do about it), 2 wars, and a health care agenda I knew he was facing a situation that he couldn't win.
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You're missing the point... Blacks are still hailing this man as the one to put food on their tables and to insure that they'll have decent health care, etc., all of this before righteousness. However, they're looking to a man who could care less about them.
I'm not the one calling him superman, however the alligience that this man still has is coming from people that he could care less about. Obama is more focused upon appeasing gays who want hospital visit and other whiney complaints. They are not the victims that every has made them out to be and Obama knows this. YET... he has still catered to them....
All the while...
We still have Travon Martins happening all over this country, not just Florida. Laws which allow them to be 'killed while walking Black'.
Why are our Black men still the vast olume of Jails?
Why are Black neighborhoods still without better homes and Black schools still the lowest in quality education?
Why are drugs still predominant in Black neighborhoods and schools?
Why are Blacks still the highest of welfare receipients?
Yet the gay cries and whines took presidence over all of this and much more?
Those voting for Obama are still voting for a man who could care less about them and that's my point. He could truly care less.
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I will say this. I'm glad I'm reading today... I'm getting kinda confused over here. Overseas is definitely looking fantastic
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You're missing the point... Blacks are still hailing this man as the one to put food on their tables and to insure that they'll have decent health care, etc., all of this before righteousness. However, they're looking to a man who could care less about them.
I'm not the one calling him superman, however the alligience that this man still has is coming from people that he could care less about. Obama is more focused upon appeasing gays who want hospital visit and other whiney complaints. They are not the victims that every has made them out to be and Obama knows this. YET... he has still catered to them....
All the while...
We still have Travon Martins happening all over this country, not just Florida. Laws which allow them to be 'killed while walking Black'.
Those are state laws. The president can't do anything about those. That is not within his power-he can't change racist or state laws.
Why are our Black men still the vast olume of Jails?
They are comitting crimes. Stop doing things that will land you in jail and that will not be an issue.
Why are Black neighborhoods still without better homes and Black schools still the lowest in quality education?
He was supposed to undo a century of economic disparity in less than 4 years- wow! All of this in the mist of a shrinking economy.
Why are drugs still predominant in Black neighborhoods and schools?
Blacks are buying them. If demand goes down dealers will move out of black areas. Besides, that is not the responsibility of an elected official. That is a community issue!
Why are Blacks still the highest of welfare receipients?
We as a community don't band together and make the necessary decisions to help one another out of poverty. There is also a culture of poverty that can't be overcome with legislation. What is he supposed to do? He can either try and get congress to give more aid or cut aid and remove many of them from the system. How is one man supposed to overcome a culture that glorifies its poverty?
Yet the gay cries and whines took presidence over all of this and much more?
He was asked his opinion. He gave it. He also stated he was going to do nothing to advance his view point. He is not doing anything for them. He is leaving it up to the states.
Those voting for Obama are still voting for a man who could care less about them and that's my point. He could truly care less.
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Re: I am confused about Christians and their voting habits
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You're missing the point... Blacks are still hailing this man as the one to put food on their tables and to insure that they'll have decent health care, etc., all of this before righteousness. However, they're looking to a man who could care less about them.
I'm not the one calling him superman, however the alligience that this man still has is coming from people that he could care less about. Obama is more focused upon appeasing gays who want hospital visit and other whiney complaints. They are not the victims that every has made them out to be and Obama knows this. YET... he has still catered to them....
All the while...
We still have Travon Martins happening all over this country, not just Florida. Laws which allow them to be 'killed while walking Black'.
Why are our Black men still the vast olume of Jails?
Why are Black neighborhoods still without better homes and Black schools still the lowest in quality education?
Why are drugs still predominant in Black neighborhoods and schools?
Why are Blacks still the highest of welfare receipients?
Yet the gay cries and whines took presidence over all of this and much more?
Those voting for Obama are still voting for a man who could care less about them and that's my point. He could truly care less.
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Shimmie you my girl and all  so don't stone me...but you say all of this to say because Obama is BLACK and the President he was supposed to single handedly fix all of the ills of the black people and community?
I won't say he could care less about us but we first must care enough about ourselves to have others care about us and we need to begin to affect our own change if a change is going to come.
The gays came with a specific agenda - same sex marriage and we need to come with a specific agenda as well.
gays did not ask Obama his opinion yesterday the media has been stirring all of this up, why? to get black folks right where they are now...all up in arms and against Obama.
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Re: I am confused about Christians and their voting habits
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I'm not one of those who was looking for Obama to "save" me for anyone who thought like that shame on them.......I don't look for any person or any President to "save" me.
Perhaps those who were looking for Obama to "save" them are now against him because they feel as if he didn't "save" them.....well that was not his job.
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I definitely wasn't looking for Obama to save me... I didn't need saving. However many have placed their Black hopes in him and he has proven that he is not a 'Black' loving president.
You shared about health benefits up thread. Effective July 1, 2012 every insurance provider in Maryland has dropped their coverage by 10% and in addition have increased co-pays by as much as an additonal $25. This is with Obama in office.
Here is a quote from our Health Benefits Booklet :
The Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act (Healthcare Reform)
In March 2010, President Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
(PPACA) into federal law. The federal regulations identified by the enactment of the PPACA has various impacts on employee benefit plan designs, costs, and eligibility. The initial changes occurred for the State Employee and Retiree Health and Welfare Benefits Program participants on July 1, 2011.
One sad example of the changes:
People with cancer are no longer covered at 100%, yet these are the very ones unable to work and obtain sustainable income to cover medical treatments, let alone cost of living expenses.
We are now allowed only one GYN, Base Mamogram, Annual Physical at 100%; the insurances will only cover 90% PLUS the increased co-payments for any subsequent doctor visits.
Last year my cousin was called back to have a second mamogram, because the first one had 'questions'. She's now paying the lab over $400 to cover the expenses of the 2nd scan which was NOT her fault. The insurance provider would not cover it.  (Obama in office)
ER Visits are $150 ($75 for the hospital / $75 for the attending physician) plus any additional charges including some labs where all labs were covered at 100 %. Hospital stays are no longer covered at 100%.
I've been insured for years (PPO Plans - ability to select any doctor outside of the network) and have never had to pay anything over a co-payment. These increases also apply to in-network physicians as well.
Obama...missed something, because now our health care is costing more.
God truly provides, but what about those who don't have the faith that I've been blessed with? Their suffering is more.
Trust me, I'm not defending Republicans, I can't stand any of these politicians, however Obama hasn't done any better for anyone financially, that I can attest to. Especially coming July 1 which is only weeks away.
Please believe me, that I'm not contending with you. I have the highest of regard for you. I don't fault you for supporting Obama. That's your choice and so be it.
From what I've seen of him, he's no better than the ones before him in office.
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Re: I am confused about Christians and their voting habits
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Originally Posted by Shimmie
You're missing the point... Blacks are still hailing this man as the one to put food on their tables and to insure that they'll have decent health care, etc., all of this before righteousness. However, they're looking to a man who could care less about them.
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You sound like someone from another race that is stereotyping us as thoughtless drones. Newsflash, Black people are not simpletons, most of us do not look to him to solve our day to day problems, we see him as a capable leader that we are politically aligned with, simple as that. You sound like a republican and thats all well and good, but don't stereotype Blacks and their politics like this, its ridiculous.
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I'm not the one calling him superman, however the alligience that this man still has is coming from people that he could care less about. Obama is more focused upon appeasing gays who want hospital visit and other whiney complaints. They are not the victims that every has made them out to be and Obama knows this. YET... he has still catered to them....
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You sound like you see gays as the enemy or something. Gay people are a diverse group of people how can you generalize like this
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All the while...
We still have Travon Martins happening all over this country, not just Florida. Laws which allow them to be 'killed while walking Black'.
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The sobering fact of the matter is, most black men/boys are killed by black men/boys, thats something we have to grapple with ourselves on the micro level.
You accuse others of it but it seems you're the one that expected Obama to be our savior more then anyone else and thats what has you in a tizzy. I never got it twisted. There are things that have to be handled on a community level and there are things that have to be legislated. The vast majority of black folks issues must be addressed on a community level and then have capable surrogates that will see to it that it is backed up politically.
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Why are our Black men still the vast olume of Jails?
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Various reasons including but not limited to racial profiling.
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Why are Black neighborhoods still without better homes and Black schools still the lowest in quality education?
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The better question is, how can we as Black people be proacive in improving the quality of our neighborhoods and take charge of educating our children ourselves?
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Why are drugs still predominant in Black neighborhoods and schools?
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FALSE the vast majority of drugs consumed in this country are consumed by whites. I never saw as much hard drugs as I did when I moved to a mostly white affluent suburb. The worst I saw in the hood was weed and alcohol, once I got out here I was shocked to see a YT girl snort coke like it was nothing in between poses for our senior picture.
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Why are Blacks still the highest of welfare receipients?
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Categorically FALSE, Whites receive 85% of public assistance in this nation. We are a minority, even if 100% of Blacks were on welfare (which we aren't) we only comprise 13% of the population so it is impossible for us to be the top welfare recipients. The fact of the matter is, there are various classes of Blacks just like any other group so the percentage of us being on public assistance is minuscule in the grand scheme of things. Its important to know your facts
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Yet the gay cries and whines took precedence over all of this and much more?
Those voting for Obama are still voting for a man who could care less about them and that's my point. He could truly care less.
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To say someone could care less means that they care 
Things Obama has done for Blacks:
CRACK VS. POWDER COCAINE. In 2010, the President signed the Fair Sentencing Act, which narrowed the huge disparity between sentences for possession of crack cocaine vs. powder cocaine. Under the old law, possession of five grams of crack resulted in the same mandatory five-year sentence as five hundred grams of powder cocaine. Obama reduced the 100 to 1 ratio to 18 to 1. Crack users are disproportionately African-American, and the war on drugs has been a war on the poor and people of color, destroying black families and communities. As a result of America’s drug laws, the U.S. has the world’s largest prison population, and a majority of prisoners are blacks and Latinos.
HBCUS and STUDENT LOAN AID. In 2010, the president signed an executive order for the president’s Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs). The order provides $98 million in extra funding for HBCUs for 10 years. The order—which also provided for $20.5 million more to the HBCU Capital Financing program and $64.5 million for the Strengthening Historically Black Graduate Institution program—makes nearly $400 million more available in Pell Grants to students at all colleges. Obama appointed Hampton University President William Harvey as chairman of the President’s Board of Advisors on Historically Black Colleges and Universities. In addition, President Obama made a sweeping overhaul of the federal student loan program by eliminating fees to private banks. Much of the $68 billion savings will go to student aid, and the law invests $2 billion in community colleges.
MINORITY ACCESS TO CAPITAL. As a result of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, also known as the Obama stimulus package, the Small Business Administration (SBA) has expanded its outreach to minority owned businesses. Twenty percent of the billions of dollars in SBA loans provided by the stimulus have gone to minority-owned companies.
DIVERSITY. The Obama administration is the most diverse White House in U.S. history. Eric Holder is the first black Attorney General. The UN Ambassador, Susan E. Rice, is also an African American, as is EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson, U.S. Trade Representative Ron Kirk, NASA chief Charles F. Bolden, Jr., and Surgeon General Regina M. Benjamin. Diversity is extending to the federal bench as well, with blacks as 25 percent of the President’s judicial nominees, and minorities as nearly half. For example, Irene Cornelia Berger was confirmed as the first black federal judge in West Virginia. Tanya Pratt became the first African-American appointee to a federal judgeship in Indiana, and Michelle Childs became the second black federal judge in South Carolina. President Obama recently nominated Judge Bernice Bouie Donald, a federal district judge in Tennessee, to the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit. Last year, the President nominated Sonia Sotomayor, the first Latina and third justice of color to sit on the Supreme Court. Elections do matter.
NATIONAL MUSEUM OF AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY. Obama funded the design of the Smithsonian National Museum of African-American History, which is scheduled to open in 2015 on the National Mall in Washington. The museum will occupy a five-acre site near the National Museum of American History and the Washington Monument. The Smithsonian is reviewing design proposals from six architectural teams.
BLACK FARMERS' SETTLEMENT. On December 8, President Obama signed legislation that provided $1.15 billion to black farmers who sued the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) in the 1997 case, Pigford v. Glickman. In the suit, which settled out of court 11 years ago, the farmers claimed the government discriminated against them by denying or cheating them out of federal aid. More than 75,000 farmers will receive up to $50,000 each. Some have suggested that it made a difference to have a black man in the White House. In any case, the symbolism is clear, as is the message that the government wants to correct a grievous injustice. “This is a settlement that addressed a historical wrong, I mean something that this country is not about and should not be about,” said U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.
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Re: I am confused about Christians and their voting habits
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Originally Posted by Shimmie
I definitely wasn't looking for Obama to save me... I didn't need saving. However many have placed their Black hopes in him and he has proven that he is not a 'Black' loving president.
You shared about health benefits up thread. Effective July 1, 2012 every insurance provider in Maryland has dropped their coverage by 10% and in addition have increased co-pays by as much as an additonal $25. This is with Obama in office.
Here is a quote from our Health Benefits Booklet :
The Patient Protection and Affordable
Care Act (Healthcare Reform)
In March 2010, President Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
(PPACA) into federal law. The federal regulations identified by the enactment of the PPACA has various impacts on employee benefit plan designs, costs, and eligibility. The initial changes occurred for the State Employee and Retiree Health and Welfare Benefits Program participants on July 1, 2011.
One sad example of the changes:
People with cancer are no longer covered at 100%, yet these are the very ones unable to work and obtain sustainable income to cover medical treatments, let alone cost of living expenses.
We are now allowed only one GYN, Base Mamogram, Annual Physical at 100%; the insurances will only cover 90% PLUS the increased co-payments for any subsequent doctor visits.
ER Visits are $150 ($75 for the hospital / $75 for the attending physician) plus any additional charges including some labs where all labs were covered at 100 %. Hospital stays are no longer covered at 100%.
I've been insured for years (PPO Plans - ability to select any doctor outside of the network) and have never had to pay anything over a co-payment. These increases also apply to in-network physicians as well.
Obama...missed something, because now our health care is costing more.
God truly provides, but what about those who don't have the faith that I've been blessed with? Their suffering is more.
Trust me, I'm not defending Republicans, I can't stand any of these politicians, however Obama hasn't done any better for anyone financially, that I can attest to. Especially coming July 1 which is only weeks away.
Please believe me, that I'm not contending with you. I have the highest of regard for you. I don't fault you for supporting Obama. That's your choice and so be it.
From what I've seen of him, he's no better than the ones before him in office. 
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but do you understand all the extra stuff that many of these bills are padded with, the repubs agenda was to block Obama at every turn so they either voted no or padded bills with junk so when bills were finally passed the blame would fall squarely on Obama's shoulders....which it appears the Repubs did their job.....never ever has what happened with the debt ceiling fiasco happened until we got a black President.
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