Eating meat

[Amour]

Any christian that do not eat meat b/c of their religion. Sometimes i feel guilty when eating meat, im sure i read in the bible that all God's creatures should have equally dominance in the world - something to that effect.

anyone?

[PraynChild]

Here are some KJV Scriptures but please familiarize your self on the Books and Chapters so that you can know the complete subject matter!!


Rom 14:2 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom014.html#2) For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

Rom 14:21 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom014.html#21) [It is] good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor [any thing] whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

Rom 14:23 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom014.html#23) And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.

1Cr 8:8 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr008.html#8) But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.


1Cr 10:31 (http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr010.html#31) Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

[Supergirl]

This scripture was presented to me when I first asked the same question that you are asking:

1 Timothy 4:4
For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,

[Caramela]

Genesis 1:24-29 makes me think that it ok to eat meat.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. [B]Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

[good2uuuu]

I also eat meat, however, I only eat meats that are clean according to Leviticus 11. That said, I would rather get back to God's original plan, as the poster before me quoted from Gen. 1:29, that God gave us every seed-bearing plant and every tree with fruit for food. Clearly meat had to be allowed after the flood because there was no choice, but God gave guidelines for that, as I staetd originally (Lev. 11).

One day, by God's grace, I will be eating as He inteded.

[Caramela]

This thread brings 2 thoughts to mind:

1) I wonder if people lived longer in the times of the bible because of what they ate, meaning by it being of better quality or more pure, did that preserve life? Did it add years onto their lives not eating processed foods, or foods polluted with frying or additives and preservatives?

2) I have also heard that any food that we pray over and thank god for is ok to eat...

Any thoughts?
I must say this is the first Christian/Vegetarian argument I've heard. It's interesting though.

[Amour]

This thread brings 2 thoughts to mind:

1) I wonder if people lived longer in the times of the bible because of what they ate, meaning by it being of better quality or more pure, did that preserve life? Did it add years onto their lives not eating processed foods, or foods polluted with frying or additives and preservatives?

2) I have also heard that any food that we pray over and thank god for is ok to eat...

Any thoughts?
I must say this is the first Christian/Vegetarian argument I've heard. It's interesting though.

Thanks ladies for all your replies, if anyone has any additional thoughts to the subject it would be very much appreaciated ;)

I think this is the guidelines i will take in regards to the subject (highlighted bolded). Namely because there is alot of ambigities (sp?) especially since reading Leviticus 11; and i think this vague interpretation is a better option for me, especially if im giving thanks and being apprecaitive. Perhaps i will look more into looking at how the animal is treated before slaughter, i.e. in islam halah meat.

[MindTwister]

Genesis 1:24-29 makes me think that it ok to eat meat.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. [B]Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
This is exactly what first came up to my mind when I read her question and I don't even know my Bible well :lol: I don't think there is anything wrong with eating meat based on that scripture, but then again I haven't done an extensive Bible study on the matter

[Lotus]

I also eat meat, however, I only eat meats that are clean according to Leviticus 11. That said, I would rather get back to God's original plan, as the poster before me quoted from Gen. 1:29, that God gave us every seed-bearing plant and every tree with fruit for food. Clearly meat had to be allowed after the flood because there was no choice, but God gave guidelines for that, as I staetd originally (Lev. 11).

One day, by God's grace, I will be eating as He inteded.

ITA!

I tend to not eat 'uncleaned' meats. I'm still being delivered completely from some (Shrimp, Lobster, Crawfish... and Catfish-although I eat farm raised).. but I dont believe God intended for man to eat unclean meats. However, I dont think what you eat or dont eat is tied into your salvation... salvation is a gift. I think your diet choice has more to do with your rewards (perhaps physical health here on earth) for obediance.

Not arguing... just giving a different opinion... and I say this with love.

I dont believe that Rule is synonomus with Eat. I think this phrase (28) in scripture is describing mans authority (dominion if you will) to tame the earth and earthly things.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

I believe phrase (29) is related to diet.

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

[Shimmie]

Any christian that do not eat meat b/c of their religion. Sometimes i feel guilty when eating meat, im sure i read in the bible that all God's creatures should have equally dominance in the world - something to that effect.

anyone?

From a Christian standpoint, I have not had convictions about eating meat. I just never wanted to eat pork, horse, or meats other than fish and poultry. I only eat fish, turkey and chicken and sometimes on rare occasions, lamb.

In God's word, He gave them meat to eat, the quail and other forms; but not pork.

However, I am transitioning into a 'Raw Diet' and it's wonderful. It's a change but a nice one. But it's not for 'Faith' reasons, it's only for healthier eating, that's all. My family and friends (Christians) still eat meat.

Here's our forum link for it.

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94755

[Radianthealth]

I went to a seminar at Hallelujah Acres last night, they talked about a raw food vegan diet as being the diet that God intended

www.hacres.com (http://www.hacres.com)

I agree that raw food is excellent and that God wants us to eat as healthy as possible but I did not like their push to buy expensive machines and supplements. I will take the good stuff that works for me and use it and leave the rest :yep:

From the photos of his wife Rhonda, she seems to be overweight. I think I may be prejudiced but it is hard to accept this lifestyle as the key to ultimate health when one of it's founders is overweight :(

I am still trying to figure out why Dr. Weil has such a round belly :(

In my search for the website address I see that they (hallelujah acres) are also on quackwatch.org so who knows:perplexed

[ClassicBeauty]

I gave up meat over ten years ago, but added some fish since then. I have to tell you ladies that my decision had nothing to do with the Bible, but as I've grown and studied more it really amazes me how people quote what they want to from the Old Testament and leave out the rest. (and the New Testament too!) Particularly the book of Leviticus! But I'm not trying to hijack this thread and create a hostile environment like most discussions about Leviticus do.:(

I just think we have to pray about it all and ask God to give us direction. For me, I know that pork, scavengers, meat, poultry, and other foods stuffed with with hormones and pesticides, etc are not what God wants for this temple. I can't say that I do it perfectly (I don't eat all organic), but I do make a conscious effort to try.

[FoxyScholar]

From a Christian standpoint, I have not had convictions about eating meat. I just never wanted to eat pork, horse, or meats other than fish and poultry. I only eat fish, turkey and chicken and sometimes on rare occasions, lamb.

In God's word, He gave them meat to eat, the quail and other forms; but not pork.

However, I am transitioning into a 'Raw Diet' and it's wonderful. It's a change but a nice one. But it's not for 'Faith' reasons, it's only for healthier eating, that's all. My family and friends (Christians) still eat meat.

Here's our forum link for it.

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94755

I thank the Lord for this post and thread because I have been desiring to move away from meat-eating mainly for health reasons....

[Nice & Wavy]

However, vegens/vegetarians have health problems too.

I have a friend who has not eaten any meat in the last 20 years, she and her family, and they have their share of problems that people who eat meat doesn't have. I guess it all depends.

I also know a pastor who does not eat meat, but struggle with weight problems because he substitutes the meat with other things. He doesn't eat sweets or lots of bread, but pasta, etc.

Just because you don't eat meat dosen't make you a healthier person than someone who don't.

Eating raw foods do have a greater advantage, but you must learn to give your body the 'extra's that it needs as well.

This is so funny that this was bought up because I was just discussing this last night with some friends...one is a cardiologist and the other is a nutritionist. It's interesting indeed.

JMO

[Minx]

I became a vegetarian about five years ago, after my Bishop had called a fast (Daniel fast).

I had gone online trying to find meatless meal ideas to feed my family.
I came across various sites, like goveg.com.
As I researched the background behind the meat industry in America,I became disgusted and decided not to return to eating meat.

That lasted for about two years, but gradually I returned to eating small amounts of meat on occassion.
The meats I eat are chicken, turkey, and fish.

Also,I had found a book in a Christian book store entitled
"What would Jesus eat?"
(I loaned it to a friend, but I never got it back.)

It was a good book, can't remember the authors name, but he backed up his findings with scripture.

Basically, he pointed out that because of the region of the world that Jesus lived in, that he probably ate mostly a mediteranean(sp?) diet, consisting mainly of fish,whole grains(nuts, seeds), friuts, vegetables, and possibly lamb.
Also, cooking with oilve oil instead of butter.

So, that works for me.

From a medical point of view, with the design of the human body, the above mentioned items are easier to chew, and to digest
and they move much quicker and much more smoothly through the bowel and colon.

[pet]

I agree with the person above who said that they followed the guidelines of Leviticus 11. We can eat clean meat such as Poultry, certain types of Fish, etc. But foods such as fish without scales, pork, etc. are unclean because these are scavengers....they eat everything and clean up after everything.....who wants to eat all of that...ugh.

[n_vizion]

I have given up meat in the last year but, like the other ladies, I did it strictly for health purposes. The meat that we have in the states are of poor quality and have contributed to many of the health problems that Americans are facing. I think that eating meat in moderation is fine. But we truly need to give the body more of what it wants which is fruits and veggies.