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Sweet C
03-07-2006, 12:05 PM
Thanks for that clarification CQ123, cause that was not making any sense to me!
EbonyEyes
03-10-2006, 09:47 PM
Well ladies,
This guy has not given up as I suspected he wouldn't. I was warned that some JWs are persistent and don't understand the words "I don't agree with you. So let's just end this." I wrote him a week ago that my belief on Jesus has not changed. It was a quick response.
He writes me back this email today trying to convince me that I'm wrong for worshipping Jesus as God. He has the NERVE to say that he's not trying to prove me wrong -- the scriptures will do so!!!! But the funny thing was, the scripture he mentioned proved my point! It was hilarious. He says that it's good that I continue to search through the scriptures.
I did write him back. And I said what I had to say. I used the same scriptures that he was trying to use to disprove my belief to support it. I told him that it's not only important to search in the scriptures but to also PRAY to God that he helps you understand what you are reading. I then ended my email by saying that I've been searching the scriptures with an open mind and actually entertained the idea that he just might be right. However, he's searching the scriptures to try to prove to me that HE is right. I challenged him to search the scriptures with an open mind like I did for him.
If he writes back with more convincing of why Jesus isn't God...Hmm...Unfortunately, I can't block email with my email account. I'm going to have to pray on the best way to let this guy know that "Look, We're not going to agree on this so how about we stop going back and forth on this?" without being cruel.
I can say this experience has taught me that you have to stay in the word AND stay in prayer with God!! Because someone can come up to you using the Word of God to tell you something that is totally untrue.
Nice & Wavy
03-17-2006, 09:59 AM
Well ladies,
This guy has not given up as I suspected he wouldn't. I was warned that some JWs are persistent and don't understand the words "I don't agree with you. So let's just end this." I wrote him a week ago that my belief on Jesus has not changed. It was a quick response.
He writes me back this email today trying to convince me that I'm wrong for worshipping Jesus as God. He has the NERVE to say that he's not trying to prove me wrong -- the scriptures will do so!!!! But the funny thing was, the scripture he mentioned proved my point! It was hilarious. He says that it's good that I continue to search through the scriptures.
I did write him back. And I said what I had to say. I used the same scriptures that he was trying to use to disprove my belief to support it. I told him that it's not only important to search in the scriptures but to also PRAY to God that he helps you understand what you are reading. I then ended my email by saying that I've been searching the scriptures with an open mind and actually entertained the idea that he just might be right. However, he's searching the scriptures to try to prove to me that HE is right. I challenged him to search the scriptures with an open mind like I did for him.
If he writes back with more convincing of why Jesus isn't God...Hmm...Unfortunately, I can't block email with my email account. I'm going to have to pray on the best way to let this guy know that "Look, We're not going to agree on this so how about we stop going back and forth on this?" without being cruel.
I can say this experience has taught me that you have to stay in the word AND stay in prayer with God!! Because someone can come up to you using the Word of God to tell you something that is totally untrue.
I've read everyone's responses and it's quite interesting. However, I won't expound on any of it because sometimes it can make things worse. But, my advise to you is "DON'T ANSWER HIS EMAILS" any longer. Let him write, but don't respond. It's that simple. Sometimes as believers, we want so much for people to know the truth and be saved. It's in us...it's who we are. However, some people won't get it. I have been talking to people (evangelizing, ministering) for 18 years. It's so interesting to hear what people believe and how they respond to your questions. And believe me, I've talked to many people who believe in many things.
I find that there are people who will listen, and then there will be people who won't. That's ok. They did it when Jesus walked the earth, and they will do it to you and me. I love what I do and I pray everyday that the people that I come into contact with will give their lives to Jesus Christ. Sometimes, its rough, but overall, it's a blessing! Remember this one thing: We plant, someone else will water, but it is God who gives the increase!
You are right, stay in prayer with God! Always know who YOU are in Christ Jesus and remain faithful to Him. He is always with you, never leaving or forsaking you. His love for you is all you need to know that He is God!
Praying that you will continue to study to show yourself approved unto God, rightly dividing the Word of Truth!
Blessings to you!
mkh_77
04-16-2006, 12:46 PM
. . . Jesus was a great man, a sinless man. He was the son of God but he was NOT God!
Traditional Christianity teaches that Jesus was not only a man but was also God. So can someone be a Christian if they do not believe that Jesus was God as well?
Ladies, any other scriptures you can find that support Jesus being God would be greatly appreciated!
"Do not cling to me," said Jesus, "for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers, and tell them that I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." John 20:17
I still believe that Jesus, in his human form, was a manifestation of God on Earth, but he was not God while he walked the Earth; he was just a man as evidenced by the verse above where he makes a distinction between himself and God.
So, yes, someone who doesn't believe that Jesus was God can be a Christian.
michc
04-22-2006, 02:16 PM
Interesting responses. As one of the earlier posters said the word Christian has 'Christ' right there in it - so how can you claim to follow Him and not believe what He says (i.e that He is God - "I and the Father are one" - can't get much clearer than that).
Remember - just because you believe something is right doesn't change the fact that in God's eyes you are wrong.
The long and short of it is no, you CAN NOT be a Christian and believe that Christ is not God.
mscolwhite
04-22-2006, 03:27 PM
Trinity God in three different states like water in three different states
water is water but water can be ice and water can be steam.
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