View Full Version : What happened to dressing to impress God?
Lucia
2005-09-25, 05:05 PM
Is it that hard, I'm not saying to bust out your Auntie's hat and gloves but seriously why do I see (and I mean really see) people coming to church with flip flops and cut-off Daisy Dukes on. What up with that? nobody (even if you have the body, even little girls) but no-body should be going to service like that. I mean I see grown women with teenage and adult kids walking around in super short mini's and shorts (cuchie cutters) with the flip flops, not to mention all their cellulitises, and varicose viens, have you heard of panythose? They got to know that ain't right. :naughty: :spank:
I mean when you go to a school or job interview don't you dress your best? You don't show up half naked.
When you go to a club or a party or dinner don't you dress your best or try to?
So why can't some people put in the effort to dress for Jesus, dress to impress God, He gave you the means to make the cash to buy the car, home, clothes etc... and you can't give the Almightly some respect by not having your privates almost out on display? Might as well :moon: everybody. :eek:
Just look sharp, clean, showered, for God's sake cover some things up.
Ok I know I just lost it but this reeeeeeallly gets under my skin. :whip:
phynestone
2005-09-25, 05:50 PM
I hear so much about this, but I have never seen this in action. That is so sad. Have you or any of the elders in the church attempted to take them aside and bring it to their attention. Some people really don't know and some do it on purpose. Has the Pastor's wife said anything? I know we're supposed to dress our best when we come to the house of the Lord, but for some, our best is nice, clean pressed pants and a plain blouse.
Lucia
2005-09-25, 05:58 PM
I hear so much about this, but I have never seen this in action. That is so sad. Have you or any of the elders in the church attempted to take them aside and bring it to their attention. Some people really don't know and some do it on purpose. Has the Pastor's wife said anything? I know we're supposed to dress our best when we come to the house of the Lord, but for some, our best is nice, clean pressed pants and a plain blouse.
The preists pastors and deacons just seem to ignore it and act like it's normal for people to dress like this. But when I go to latin mass we dress it's always the english mass :confused: hate to say it but it's true I'm not even exagerating
Maybe I should write a letter and have it read to the entire congregation. Yeah I'm EM them right now.
CurliDiva
2005-09-25, 06:29 PM
I think some some church are allowing a "casual or street" attire to attract a younger, hip hop audience (esp.young males who are sorely underrepresented) . There is a local church with a TV ministry, and they (including the pastor) dress in jerseys and jeans, just like on BET. But daisy dukes are a bit much! :eek:
QUINN
2005-09-25, 07:13 PM
What happened to, "come as you are." ? I don't mean coming to church naked, but some people don't have better clothing or they just don't know any better. A lot of people are reluctant to step foot in a church for fear of being "looked at" funny by the church regulars. This is also a lot of people choose to have church in their hearts and in the privacy of their home. I feel that church should be a loving open arm environment and in this day and age it is so sad that it is not.
My question is and what I am more concerned with is...Why is it that the preacher does not have a job? A lot of preachers do not have jobs outside of being the preacher. When I was growing up the preacher had a "regular" job to support his family. He did rec'v a SMALL stipend from the church, but not enough to support his family, his brand new Cadillac every year and his many children's (with the wife and the mistresses) higher educations.
I grew up in a church where the preacher lived in the community of his fellow church goers, he had a regular job, he tithed with everyone else and gave as much if not more to the church along with everyone else. Church these days are not what they used to be. It is a shame what it has become.
Jesus hung out with prostitutes and the low-lifes who are we to think that we are better than him? Who are we to sit around and talk bad about people and say who is better than whom? My momma always told me that I ain't better than nobody and nobody is better than me. At the end of the day we all have to answer for ourselves. If you can't help someone, why kick them when they may be on their last leg?
LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.
sky_blu
2005-09-25, 07:21 PM
What happened to, "come as you are." ? I don't mean coming to church naked, but some people don't have better clothing or they just don't know any better.
Girl you took it outta my mouth! I dont God cares if you come dressed to the nines in this and that anyway. As long as you believe in him and come there to worship him then there shouldn't be a problem. You shouldn't go to church to impress anybody because thats not what its there for.
Lucia
2005-09-25, 07:28 PM
Is it that hard, I'm not saying to bust out your Auntie's hat and gloves but seriously why do I see (and I mean really see) people coming to church with flip flops and cut-off Daisy Dukes on.
Just look sharp, clean, showered, for God's sake cover some things up.
Ok I know I just lost it but this reeeeeeallly gets under my skin. :whip:
Look I understand that some people don't have the means but you don't have to be rich to wear your best jeans and t-shirt or ladies throw on a simple sundress from Walmart on to church. I mean people go all out for the club thats all I'm saying and the anglo congrgation I go to some of these people live in big houses and belong to the country club, drive Benzes, porshe's and things they can afford it.
Lucia
2005-09-25, 07:35 PM
I know we're supposed to dress our best when we come to the house of the Lord, but for some, our best is nice, clean pressed pants and a plain blouse.
That's all I'm saying but people can't even swing that and you don't have to have $$ to do that. The Daisy dukes on women in church is just ain't right.
firecracker
2005-09-25, 07:36 PM
My church just posted a dress code to give some people an idea what is proper. We have a come as you are policy. I believe our rules were directed toward the youth with the short cheerleader style skirts and spaghetti straps. Oh well as long as they come.
nicki6
2005-09-25, 07:46 PM
I had this exact same thought as I attended a funeral last Monday. There were several young (under 25) peope dressed, in my opiion, inappropriately. One young woman was wearing lime green, spaghetti strap "club" outfit. As I stood behind her, I found myself trying to decipher the tattoo on the shoulder.
I understand that some may not have the wardrobe of "Sunday best", but 'clean and covered' can be found at the thrift store and in most closets.
I am a firm believer in come as you are. I haven't read that God wants us to come to church in "Sunday best". But I also believe that things should be done decent and in order. As the person continues to come to service, then it should be discreetfully pointed out on how to dress for church.
ms.sweetevie
2005-09-25, 09:07 PM
I have lost two friends over this same topic. :nono: I suggested not wearing anything lowcut,skin tight or club attire. Of course I got the bark of "come as you are." I know that they wouldnt wear that same outfit to a corporate interview. This is a lame excuse for some.
BlkHoneyLuv2U
2005-09-25, 11:26 PM
I think some some church are allowing a "casual or street" attire to attract a younger, hip hop audience (esp.young males who are sorely underrepresented) . There is a local church with a TV ministry, and they (including the pastor) dress in jerseys and jeans, just like on BET. But daisy dukes are a bit much! :eek:
I was watching TBN one night a good while back listening/watching Juanita Bynum. She made a statement that made me go YEAH!! She was talking about how churches and musicians are saying they are changing the way they hold their services and the music because they are trying to draw more members and draw people closer to God(paraphrasing here) she then said that maybe they were trying to draw somebody that God hadnt called. That is oh so true, cause I dont care how hard you try, you cant draw who God aint called. YET!! God's word is the same and has not changed from day one. He said He is the same yesterday, today, and forever and that He change not. So why are the churches changing. I believe the same God that saved the lost in 2050, 1800, 1901, 1950, and in 1970 is the same God that can do it in 2005 and do it in the same way.
Blossssom
2005-09-25, 11:58 PM
I so agree with you. People are an utter disgrace nowadays!
Blossssom
2005-09-25, 11:59 PM
I was watching TBN one night a good while back listening/watching Juanita Bynum. She made a statement that made me go YEAH!! She was talking about how churches and musicians are saying they are changing the way they hold their services and the music because they are trying to draw more members and draw people closer to God(paraphrasing here) she then said that maybe they were trying to draw somebody that God hadnt called. That is oh so true, cause I dont care how hard you try, you cant draw who God aint called. YET!! God's word is the same and has not changed from day one. He said He is the same yesterday, today, and forever and that He change not. So why are the churches changing. I believe the same God that saved the lost in 2050, 1800, 1901, 1950, and in 1970 is the same God that can do it in 2005 and do it in the same way.
You get post of the week and it's only Sunday! Excellent post!
We were listening to a "gospel" station the other day and you couldn't tell Christ-centered music from the new "rap gospel" out there.
Very sad...
firecracker
2005-09-26, 02:14 AM
You get post of the week and it's only Sunday! Excellent post!
We were listening to a "gospel" station the other day and you couldn't tell Christ-centered music from the new "rap gospel" out there.
Very sad...
:lol: B at least you have a gospel station to listen to up North. I agree that people ought to know what is deemed appropriate but when you say no dress code you get the worst. My gospel musical taste lean toward ole school Shirley Caesar, Tramaine, Edward Hawkins & family. Rap:lachen: :lachen:
Cincysweetie
2005-09-26, 02:34 AM
What happened to, "come as you are." ? I don't mean coming to church naked, but some people don't have better clothing or they just don't know any better. A lot of people are reluctant to step foot in a church for fear of being "looked at" funny by the church regulars. This is also a lot of people choose to have church in their hearts and in the privacy of their home. I feel that church should be a loving open arm environment and in this day and age it is so sad that it is not.
LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE.
I agree with this. I think it's a shame that some people won't even come to church because they are afraid of being ridiculed or looked at crazy for what they are wearing.
Case in point: When I went away to college I didn't attend church as frequently as there wasn't really a church nearby that I was comfortable in going to. When I came home from school, I found that my clothing choices for church were limited as I had lost a lot of weight, things didn't fit right, and I hadn't gone shopping for church clothes lately. And let's face it, the stuff I wear to class day in and day out probably isn't considered "dressing for the Lord", not b/c it's skanky or anything, but because it's real casual street clothing. Anyway, Easter Sunday of my sophmore year of college I wore this dress that a friend had let me borrow b/c I didn't have anything that fit right or that I felt comfortable in. I am chesty, I can't help that, and the dress was somewhat low-cut...but I felt comfortable and I looked nice, even threw a cover jacket on top to cover my bare arms. Well my father, stepmother, and grandmother threw a fit at the dress, though mind you not a one of them wanted to take me shopping (or offer the money to buy a new out) the previous day when I informed them I didn't really have anything I felt fit right. It was a big ordeal, and this was back several years ago and to tell you the truth...my family hasn't been right since! And neither have I. It was a real blow to my confidence and made me feel like I should be ashamed of the fact that I had a chest. It was very upsetting that so much emphasis was put on my appearance that day, and I felt like crap the whole time. I couldn't help how that sundress fit me (it wasn't too tight, too small or any of that) and I wasn't trying to put my breasts out there for everyone to see...b/c really even in a turtleneck you'd be able to see them!
To this day I constantly look in the mirror for a good 10 minutes solid before I leave for church...making sure everything is fitting right, nothing is too much on display, and nothing is hanging out that might make people look at me funny or think less of me. Is that REALLY what I should be focusing on before I go to the Lord's house? I think not. And even worse, there have been times where I've stood in the mirror that 10 minutes plus, obsessing over my outfit and what others might think (though my mom says "you look fine!!") and I've decided not to go to church b/c maybe someone might view my outfit as inappropriate. Just a couple Sundays ago, I drove all the way to church (35 minutes away), realized I had forgotten my jacket to go with my shirt set that I had on, and left. Now some of you may say...obviously you didn't want to go in the first place, or why didn't you just change. But, when you've been made to think that people are judging you b/c of how you look and will interpret and critique how you dress down to a t, and it's been a big issue in your family and you are self conscious...it's hard to deal with all of that without feeling low about yourself. I really wish people would just get off the whole issue of dresscodes and be satisfied with "come as you are" and IMO that in and of itself is indicative of a bigger problem that churches have...folks being too judgemental.
firecracker
2005-09-26, 04:03 AM
Dang Cincy that was a bit much since your were visiting. I still think a dresscode for church is necessary. It really is about respect for God and self in his house. I have worn jeans to church a few times but took care to really dress them up. I was raised Baptist "no pants at Sunday Service". My Mom could not believe I had the guts to do it but my church is come as you are. Juanita Bynum's comment is sort of strange to me since God wants us to share his goodness. How will some people get to know him unless they walk in off the street in street clothes?
pebbles
2005-09-26, 08:50 AM
I'm pretty sure that the originator of this thread wasn't talking about people who didn't have money to go shopping exclusively for church. This has nothing to do with "sin." Yes, come as you are. But remember, dressing properly for church is about reverencing the Lord and looking your best in His presence.
Take the same people who have the nerve to go to church in flip-flops and see if they'll ever step in a club like that. Even if they don't have the money, nobody goes to clubs in flip-flops, nobody. That same person will find something appropriate to put on to go dance with a boyfriend or girlfriend.
If your best is jeans and sneakers, well then wear it and be proud. So long as you are clean, and presentable, it's ok. But if you wouldn't be caught dead in a club the way you dress for church, stop and think for just a second. If you are showing waaaayyyyy too much flesh for the house of God, reconsider your choice of clothing. How does this bring honor and glory to the Father? Are you properly representing the kingdom of God?
God is not impressed with how much your clothes cost. He looks for the sincerity of our hearts. But don't be fooled. God is looking to see in how much esteem you really hold Him. Present your best, always, no matter what it is.
Never will I believe that the folks who come out to church looking like they forgot to get dressed with flip flops on their feet are in their absolute best. I just don't believe that.
BlkHoneyLuv2U
2005-09-26, 09:08 AM
Dang Cincy that was a bit much since your were visiting. I still think a dresscode for church is necessary. It really is about respect for God and self in his house. I have worn jeans to church a few times but took care to really dress them up. I was raised Baptist "no pants at Sunday Service". My Mom could not believe I had the guts to do it but my church is come as you are. Juanita Bynum's comment is sort of strange to me since God wants us to share his goodness. How will some people get to know him unless they walk in off the street in street clothes?
I dont think her comment was strange. I will try and explain why I feel this way. We all know women who are saved with unsaved husbands, children family members etc. These women pray, try to show Godly love to draw these loved one and nothing happens. Not because God has turned a deaf ear to the prayers but because, its not their time yet. They havent had their Damascus road experience yet. There was a time when I wanted to be saved and decided to go to church ang get saaved, I had it all planned out, down to the exact minute when I was gonna be saved. I set the date, went to church and I prayed hard to be saved. I left thinking I was till I found myself right back in my same old mess, Then I realized that my motive wasnt right, (there was a guy in the church I wanted) not only was my motive wrong but I hadnt had a change of heart. It was only in my Damascus road experience where I met Jesus and was changed from the inside out. and it did not take place at church. I was in my bedroom crying my heart out drowning in sorrow and self pity looking at me and my circumstance when I remembered what my grandmomma said years ago before she died she told me that when life gets too hard to bear, thats the time to stop looking down and look up, cause He's waiting with hands reaching down to pull me up. So I did, I looked up and she was right He was there, gave me the peace, joy, love like I've never known before.
Now back to Juanita, she was just saying that sometimes we as the church, try to do what only God can do, I do say come as you are, if all you have to wear is hoochie clothes wear them, but once God gets ahold of you , you will be changed from the inside out. God will clean you up. Maybe the folks the original poster is talking about arent saved yet, if they are it will take time but God will change them in His time. If they are not saved just be patient sit back and wait for God to do His work.
Before I got saved I was broke and could not afford to buy clothes for myself for church, work and school. So what I did was I bought clothes that I could wear to all three. I like the professional business suit type clothing. I went to school dressing for the position I didnt have yet (and still dont have) went to work dressing the same way, but still looked decent on Sunday when I went to church.
It takes God to change people in all their ways, He changed me and cleaned me up and if He can do it for me, a former drunk, pot head and club slut He can do it for anyone.
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