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Poohbear
2005-06-07, 11:48 AM
I heard about this a few weeks ago and just thought about it wondering if anyone else has heard about this. My sister told me it's because babies absorb things quicker than adults. But I wonder what ingredient in Elidel would cause HIV. I've used Elidel before but and they said it's okay for adults to use. But after hearing this, I don't think it would be safe for adults to use either. :ohwell:

toinette
2005-06-07, 11:51 AM
what in the world?? i dont knwo how true this is. so they would be absorbing somethign in the cream that would react with their enzymes to cause HIV?? this doesnt make sense.

Poohbear
2005-06-07, 11:54 AM
doesnt make sense to me either because i thought HIV was only transmitted sexually or through blood-to-blood contact. my nephew is 11 months old and he has eczema and the doctor said he couldnt prescribe Elidel anymore because of this.

LookieLoo
2005-06-07, 11:59 AM
What? :confused: :confused: :confused:

How can a skin cream cause HIV? Wouldn't you have to be exposed to HIV first through some other means?

I've used Elidel before for eczema and still have 1/2 a tube in my drawer ... should I throw it out?

curlilocs
2005-06-07, 01:07 PM
I don't think this is scientifically possible.

Lovelylocs
2005-06-07, 01:11 PM
A doctor said this! Wow! This is interesting. Are u sure that ur sister didnt misunderstand the doctor? From what I have found ont he net, it says that the FDA does not know the side effects of Elidel on children. As far as HIV, people who already have HIV should be cautious about using it. HTH

Champagne_Wishes
2005-06-07, 05:04 PM
This is what I found relating to Elidel and HIV. IMO I highly doubt Elidel causes HIV, but who knows. For those who use this drug, please talk to your doctor.:

PRECAUTIONS: Tell your doctor your medical history, especially of: skin infections (e.g., herpes, chickenpox, warts), immune system problems (e.g., HIV, organ transplants), any allergies. This medication is not recommended for use if you have a history of Netherton's syndrome. This medication combined with skin exposure to sunlight or ultraviolet light (e.g., tanning beds) may increase your risk of serious side effects. Avoid prolonged sun exposure and wear protective clothing when outdoors. Avoid sunlamps and tanning beds. Do not swim, shower, or bathe right after applying this medication. If your doctor recommends a moisturizer, apply it after applying this medicine. Use of this medication is not recommended for children less than 2 years of age. This medication should be used only when clearly needed during pregnancy. Discuss the risks and benefits with your doctor. It is not known if this medication passes into breast milk. Consult your doctor before breast-feeding.

Link: http://www.medicinenet.com/pimecrolimus-topical/article.htm

landakaye
2005-06-07, 05:15 PM
I know you all do not believe this cow doo-doo.

Champagne_Wishes
2005-06-07, 05:20 PM
I know you all do not believe this cow doo-doo.

Not by a long shot. Granted I would avoid something like this since it contain form of steroids.

Phoenix
2005-06-07, 05:25 PM
Not by a long shot. Granted I would avoid something like this since it contain form of steroids.

Elidel doesn't contain steroids does it? I thought the whole point was that it didn't contain steroids like other eczema meds.

Champagne_Wishes
2005-06-07, 05:34 PM
Elidel doesn't contain steroids does it? I thought the whole point was that it didn't contain steroids like other eczema meds.


Whoops on my part. I was thinking of more traditional medication used to treat eczema, the ones that contains steroids.

mkstar826
2005-06-07, 05:57 PM
this sounds crazy...next ice cream will cause hepatitis. that doctor needs to be fired if he's really spreading this kind of info.

Poohbear
2005-06-07, 05:58 PM
This is what I found relating to Elidel and HIV. IMO I highly doubt Elidel causes HIV, but who knows. For those who use this drug, please talk to your doctor.:

PRECAUTIONS: Tell your doctor your medical history, especially of: skin infections (e.g., herpes, chickenpox, warts), immune system problems (e.g., HIV, organ transplants), any allergies. This medication is not recommended for use if you have a history of Netherton's syndrome. This medication combined with skin exposure to sunlight or ultraviolet light (e.g., tanning beds) may increase your risk of serious side effects. Avoid prolonged sun exposure and wear protective clothing when outdoors. Avoid sunlamps and tanning beds. Do not swim, shower, or bathe right after applying this medication. If your doctor recommends a moisturizer, apply it after applying this medicine. Use of this medication is not recommended for children less than 2 years of age. This medication should be used only when clearly needed during pregnancy. Discuss the risks and benefits with your doctor. It is not known if this medication passes into breast milk. Consult your doctor before breast-feeding.

Link: http://www.medicinenet.com/pimecrolimus-topical/article.htm
Hey, this is what I found when I did my research. But I don't know why my nephew's doctor told my sister they couldn't prescribe it because they were taking Elidel off the market. I think she may have gotten some misinformation because my nephew doesn't have HIV or any of those skin infections or immune problems. I'm going to talk to her about it today when I get a chance to talk to her. ;)

Starian
2005-06-07, 07:56 PM
It's impossible to get HIV from a skin cream. *works in a hospital and just asked one of the doctors*

MsKendra
2005-06-07, 08:14 PM
It's impossible to get HIV from a skin cream. *works in a hospital and just asked one of the doctors*

OT: was your weave sewn-in? You'll be at that length in no time girl :)

Starian
2005-06-07, 08:34 PM
Nah, that was the infamous glue in that tore all my hair out, lol.OT: was your weave sewn-in? You'll be at that length in no time girl :)

LDebagoria
2005-06-07, 09:37 PM
This is crap. The Dr. must've seriously been misinformed or had some thing against Elidel himself because this isn't possible.

Poohbear
2005-06-07, 09:54 PM
Okay... I just talked to my sister. Btw, it wasn't her son's doctor who said this...she said a pharmacist and a pediatrician told her this information. My sister just decided to tell her son's doctor not to prescribe it...the doctor didn't say it. Sorry about that missinformation. ;)
Anyway, she works in a pharmacy and she said that most doctors do not know about this. She said there is a Black box warning on Elidel that causes HIV in infants under 2 years old.
I did a search on the internet and could not find that it causes HIV... all I see is that it can cause malignancies and cancers in infants or animals...nothing about HIV. I told my sister this, but she said he pharmacists said it can cause HIV as well. Here are a few articles I found about the black box warning:

http://eczematreatment.blogspot.com/2005/03/elidel-and-protopic-to-carry-fdas.html

http://www.highbeam.com/library/doc0.asp?docid=1G1:131781506&refid=ink_tptd_mag&skeyword=&teaser=

http://www.jcaai.org/05-0217_warning_black_box.asp

this link contains several articles and little paragraphs about it: http://drugs.mongabay.com/medications/Elidel.html

here's an article where a doctor questions this warning: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/observer/news/local/states/north_carolina/counties/catawba/11475319.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

senimoni
2005-06-07, 10:06 PM
Hmmm...well it does work by surpressing the immune system...maybe it doesn't cause AIDS perse but I guess its not out of the realm of possibility that it may irreversable(sp?) damage young childrens immune system, causing symptoms similar to aids.

ThickHair
2005-06-08, 04:13 PM
The HIV virus can not survive once it hits the air. So to us a topical cream it would have to be exposed to the air. She really needs to get a new doctor because that is some ig'nant mess.