Seventh Day adventist

[angelk316]

Is anybody on this board seventh day adventist

[Belle Du Jour]

Is anybody on this board seventh day adventist

I'm not, but I have visited a 7th day adventist church several times.

[pebbles]

I'm not either, but I have a lot of family that is seventh day adventist. :)

[webby]

AJamericanDiva is Seventh Day...you could probably PM her, if she doesn't spot this thread :)

[natalied]

SDA Checking In!:wave:

[good2uuuu]

Checking in also!

[AJamericanDiva]

Here I is! Here I is!!! RabiaElaine is SDA as well! :clap:

[kisz4tj]

Really??? I am too!!! :)

[kisz4tj]

Which church do you go to?

[AJamericanDiva]

Which church do you go to?


Who me? I live in Manhattan, but go to Kingsboro Temple in Park Slope. Which do you attend?

[kisz4tj]

I'm gonna fall out. I also go to Kingsboro!!!!!!!

[natalied]

I went to Kingsboro for years when I lived in NY. I also was a part of Haitian Mass. My aunt still attends there. Here name is Ketsia.

I'm gonna fall out. I also go to Kingsboro!!!!!!!

[AJamericanDiva]

I'm gonna fall out. I also go to Kingsboro!!!!!!!

WHAT!!!! I was just telling Natalied that I don't know too many people there for the many years that I've been going!!! OK, world's tooooo small!!!! You better post a pic. Do you recognize my by pics in my album???

[kisz4tj]

No actually I don't. I joined 2 years ago. Does my face look familiar? :) Do you hold any offices, are you always there?

[aqualung]

I was raised SDA, and I still attend regularly. I don't observe all the rules, but I like our prophecy, health, and education doctrine.

[kisz4tj]

My pic is my avatar. Here's another http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL175/1022171/4807141/t-84579562.jpg

[good2uuuu]

I went to Kingsboro for years when I lived in NY. I also was a part of Haitian Mass. My aunt still attends there. Here name is Ketsia.

Oh! I' am kinda really missing NY now. I was born and raised in NY. My father was in church administration in Northeastern Conf. Unfortunately I never had the chance to visit Kingsboro. I have heard so many good things about that church though. My parents moved down to Hunstville, AL in 1989 during my senior year in college.

Were you part of Haitan Mass when they were at OC alumni weekend a few years back? That choir is OFF THE CHAIN!!!!!! Oh my goodness!!!! I'd so be in heaven if I could join a chior like that!!! No such luck in Minnesota though...lol!

[AJamericanDiva]

No actually I don't. I joined 2 years ago. Does my face look familiar? :) Do you hold any offices, are you always there?

It's hard to really see your face from the lil' pic, that's why I said you should post one. I don't hold any office or anything. I have to admit that I am not always there in that I tend to travel a lot. We must make it a point to meet one Sabbath.

[AJamericanDiva]

I was raised SDA, and I still attend regularly. I don't observe all the rules, but I like our prophecy, health, and education doctrine.

Hey Megon!!! :wave: I think we all have our issues... for me, I still wear jewelry and cosmetics. My Uncle is a pastor at a church in Brooklyn and we have discussions about this. Other than that, there are foods that I consider unclean and will not eat, I'm into temperance, etc.

[AJamericanDiva]

My pic is my avatar. Here's another http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL175/1022171/4807141/t-84579562.jpg

Your phase looks vaguely familiar. I'll be sure to let you know when I'm going to be there... like this Sabbath for instance. I'll be sure to look for you.

[natalied]

No, I had already left. I left in 1997. I loved being in Hatiain Mass! But after I had my second child, I couldn't go to the rehearsals anymore. To tired! But it was so much fun!!!!

The best part of Haitian Mass was that it was interdenominational. I would say half were Adventist and the other half mostly COGIC or Pentecostal. It's was funny b/c half the choir would start shouting or catching the spirit and the other half would just look at them:lachen:

Oh! I' am kinda really missing NY now. I was born and raised in NY. My father was in church administration in Northeastern Conf. Unfortunately I never had the chance to visit Kingsboro. I have heard so many good things about that church though. My parents moved down to Hunstville, AL in 1989 during my senior year in college.

Were you part of Haitan Mass when they were at OC alumni weekend a few years back? That choir is OFF THE CHAIN!!!!!! Oh my goodness!!!! I'd so be in heaven if I could join a chior like that!!! No such luck in Minnesota though...lol!

[AJamericanDiva]

Oh! I' am kinda really missing NY now. I was born and raised in NY. My father was in church administration in Northeastern Conf. Unfortunately I never had the chance to visit Kingsboro. I have heard so many good things about that church though. My parents moved down to Hunstville, AL in 1989 during my senior year in college.

Were you part of Haitan Mass when they were at OC alumni weekend a few years back? That choir is OFF THE CHAIN!!!!!! Oh my goodness!!!! I'd so be in heaven if I could join a chior like that!!! No such luck in Minnesota though...lol!

Kingsboro's youth choir is good as well. You can check out the services online. www.kingsborosda.org. You can watch live on Sabbath mornings at 11am or see past services. The wonders of modern technology. I love it!

[natalied]

Yes you should definetely check out the services! I watch them periodically whenever I miss NY or when I need new praise team songs!:D

Kingsboro's youth choir is good as well. You can check out the services online. www.kingsborosda.org (http://www.kingsborosda.org). You can watch live on Sabbath mornings at 11am or see past services. The wonders of modern technology. I love it!

[AJamericanDiva]

This coming Sabbath evening 5:50pm they're having a concert , "Take Me Back: A Tribute to Gospel music"! I'll be sure to stay in Brooklyn all day.

[good2uuuu]

Kingsboro's youth choir is good as well. You can check out the services online. www.kingsborosda.org (http://www.kingsborosda.org/). You can watch live on Sabbath mornings at 11am or see past services. The wonders of modern technology. I love it!

Thanks for that link! I missed most of church in January due to either my son being ill or the servere sub zero weather that wraked havoc on my hubbys car. He had to use mine because he MUST be at the hospital. (I hate Minesota winters) I do tune in to WOCG, Oakwoods station. I hear the service from there. It's cool because that way I can share church with my folks since they attend Oakwood church. With the Kingsboro link, I can actualy 'have church' at the appointed time...lol!

[good2uuuu]

By the way Diva, I love your albums! You really beat a face well. It takes talent to make people look good and not clownish, know what I mean?

[AJamericanDiva]

No, I had already left. I left in 1997. I loved being in Hatiain Mass! But after I had my second child, I couldn't go to the rehearsals anymore. To tired! But it was so much fun!!!!

The best part of Haitian Mass was that it was interdenominational. I would say half were Adventist and the other half mostly COGIC or Pentecostal. It's was funny b/c half the choir would start shouting or catching the spirit and the other half would just look at them:lachen:

As you should know, Kingsboro is a very spirited church. When I was growing up in the church, there was a time you dare not clap your hands in church. Just maybe it could be done in an evening service, possibly if not held in the church or maybe they'd even wave their programs so the paper would make that noise. Other than that, it was strictly "Amen". I love attending Kingsboro as I can stand to my feet, lift my hands as I praise the Lord. Sometimes when I think of the goodness of the Lord, I can't contain myself.

[kisz4tj]

Oh! I' am kinda really missing NY now. I was born and raised in NY. My father was in church administration in Northeastern Conf.
Oh your Dad probably knows my grandmother. She was the treasurer at NEC for awhile.

[AJamericanDiva]

By the way Diva, I love your albums! You really beat a face well. It takes talent to make people look good and not clownish, know what I mean?

Yes, why thank you! Imagine that! A SDA makeup artist!!! :rofl:

[natalied]

Yes, why thank you! Imagine that! A SDA makeup artist!!! :rofl:

ummm.......shhhhh.....don't tell anybody....but I love it too!

[good2uuuu]

No, I had already left. I left in 1997. I loved being in Hatiain Mass! But after I had my second child, I couldn't go to the rehearsals anymore. To tired! But it was so much fun!!!!

The best part of Haitian Mass was that it was interdenominational. I would say half were Adventist and the other half mostly COGIC or Pentecostal. It's was funny b/c half the choir would start shouting or catching the spirit and the other half would just look at them:lachen:

I know what you mean about that 'look' :lachen: :lachen: :lachen: I am so over that, but my folks are old school, so they still look. I don't judge folks on how they act or react during a song or service. I don't know what kind of hell the devil has put them through that week that they are so thankful to be on the other side of. Shoot, I gotta shout with them too sometimes. Lord knows I have my fair share of trial and tribulations.

I also relate to having a kid and having to cut out the choir. Trying to keep up can really wear you out big time.

[kisz4tj]

I haven't been to KBT since the New Years Eve program. Were you there? Do you like the new Pastor? If you plan to be there this Sabbath we should definitely get together for lunch or something. I don't think I'll be staying for the concert tho.

[natalied]

Preach it sista!
I know what you mean about that 'look' :lachen: :lachen: :lachen: I am so over that, but my folks are old school, so they still look. I don't judge folks on how they act or react during a song or service. I don't know what kind of hell the devil has put them through that week that they are so thankful to be on the other side of. Shoot, I gotta shout with them too sometimes. Lord knows I have my fair share of trial and tribulations.
I also relate to having a kid and having to cut out the choir. Trying to keep up can really wear you out big time.

[kisz4tj]

As you should know, Kingsboro is a very spirited church. When I was growing up in the church, there was a time you dare not clap your hands in church. Just maybe it could be done in an evening service, possibly if not held in the church or maybe they'd even wave their programs so the paper would make that noise. Other than that, it was strictly "Amen". I love attending Kingsboro as I can stand to my feet, lift my hands as I praise the Lord. Sometimes when I think of the goodness of the Lord, I can't contain myself.
Thats exactly why I joined. I needed to be in an atmosphere conducive to lively praise. I don't make it as often as I'd like. Lawd knows when I'm travelling from the BX the last thing I wanna do is beg the Lord for parking!! I'm jus sayin'

[good2uuuu]

Ya know! So yau are in Atlanta natalied? I have been trying to get there to live forever. My cousins live there a well as a gang of other friends.

[good2uuuu]

Oh your Dad probably knows my grandmother. She was the treasurer at NEC for awhile.

Whose your grandma? Dad was prez from '67 to '85. My brother lives in Jersey now, but he plays the piano all over the place. Kingsboro is not his speed of service though.......

[kisz4tj]

Yes, why thank you! Imagine that! A SDA makeup artist!!! :rofl:
Who'd a thunk it? EG White must be turning over :lol:

[good2uuuu]

BTW natalied, where do you go to church now?

[kisz4tj]

Whose your grandma? Dad was prez from '67 to '85. My brother lives in Jersey now, but he plays the piano all over the place. Kingsboro is not his speed of service though.......
Ida Williams

[good2uuuu]

Yes, why thank you! Imagine that! A SDA makeup artist!!! :rofl:

Hey, I have considered cosmetology myself. Now imagine this SDA PK as a make-up artist....lol! Not to mention that my parents are old and old school.

[natalied]

Atlanta is wonderful!!! Its sort of like a mini NY :lol: Come on down to biggest chocolate city in the South!

Ya know! So yau are in Atlanta natalied? I have been trying to get there to live forever. My cousins live there a well as a gang of other friends.

[AJamericanDiva]

ummm.......shhhhh.....don't tell anybody....but I love it too!

:sekret: :sekret:

[good2uuuu]

Thats exactly why I joined. I needed to be in an atmosphere conducive to lively praise. I don't make it as often as I'd like. Lawd knows when I'm travelling from the BX the last thing I wanna do is beg the Lord for parking!! I'm jus sayin'

I feel ya. My parents were members of City Tab and on the rare Sabbath dad wasn't speaking somewhere we would go there. The problem was that we lived on Long Island close to Belmont racetrack. Why could they not be members of Linden Blvd? City parking is such a mess!

[natalied]

I shared this with AJD. Me, my husband and some other families started a mission. We've been organzied for two years and the conference just told us we are able to get "church" status now. YEAH!!! We are a lay driven church. i.e. no pastor The conference has a pastor that "checks in" with us at least once a quarter. It's a lot of work but it's very rewarding. I was tired of being a pew warmer at a bigger church.

BTW natalied, where do you go to church now?

[good2uuuu]

I shared this with AJD. Me, my husband and some other families started a mission. We've been organzied for two years and the conference just told us we are able to get "church" status now. YEAH!!! We are a lay driven church. i.e. no pastor The conference has a pastor that "checks in" with us at least once a quarter. It's a lot of work but it's very rewarding. I was tired of being a pew warmer at a bigger church.

That's fantastic! I know what you mean. You get restless warming the pew. If I ever get back to the ATL, I'll have to check you out. I always end up at Berean though when I'm there. The 2 places I can find without help in ATL are Berean and Lenox Square. Leave it to me to sniff out the ritzy side of town :ohwell:

[good2uuuu]

Ida Williams Oh my goodness! I know her! Saw her everyday while growing up. Until I went to PFA I was at the conference office daily. Small world !

[natalied]

That's fantastic! I know what you mean. You get restless warming the pew. If I ever get back to the ATL, I'll have to check you out. I always end up at Berean though when I'm there. The 2 places I can find without help in ATL are Berean and Lenox Square. Leave it to me to sniff out the ritzy side of town :ohwell:

I live 15 min from Berean. I'm actually the secretary for the Sabbath Keepers Youth League which is a sports league started by parents at Berean. The league has since grown to include many other SDA churches and other denominations that worship on the Sabbath. That's another plus for Atlanta if you have kids.

I work right across the street from Lenox!:grin: It's VERY hard, but I TRY not to go unless I have too.

[AJamericanDiva]

Thats exactly why I joined. I needed to be in an atmosphere conducive to lively praise. I don't make it as often as I'd like. Lawd knows when I'm travelling from the BX the last thing I wanna do is beg the Lord for parking!! I'm jus sayin'

Gurl, I know exactly what you sayin'!!! :lachen: I'm coming from the Upper Eastside of Manhattan, closer than you, but it takes an effort to have everyone ready so we can find parking and get a seat in the sanctuary. If it gets too late we go to New York United right here in the city at 110 street, across from Central Park. Either that or watch it on the computer.

[good2uuuu]

I live 15 min from Berean. I'm actually the secretary for the Sabbath Keepers Youth League which is a sports league started by parents at Berean. The league has since grown to include many other SDA churches and other denominations that worship on the Sabbath. That's another plus for Atlanta if you have kids.

I work right across the street from Lenox!:grin: It's VERY hard, but I TRY not to go unless I have too.

The youth league is a woderful idea. My husband and I were discussing doing this in Nashville, but the Lord sent us here for these 3 years. I pray that we can get back to Nashville if ATL is not in the picture. That puts me close to my parents and close enough to ATL.

Do you know Rosalyn Warren or Nancy Howard (Howell) or Joe Howell? Just gotta ask You know we think everybody knows everybody....lol

[natalied]

Have you attended Jules' Church- City Tab? I only visited there b4 he arrived and it was very conservative. He hasn't brought the "Kingsboro" atmosphere there?
Gurl, I know exactly what you sayin'!!! :lachen: I'm coming from the Upper Eastside of Manhattan, closer than you, but it takes an effort to have everyone ready so we can find parking and get a seat in the sanctuary. If it gets too late we go to New York United right here in the city at 110 street, across from Central Park. Either that or watch it on the computer.

[kisz4tj]

When you said your Dad was Prez I figured. It really is a small world. Yup I have fond memories of the office back in the day too.

[natalied]

Yes I know Joe. My best friend used to date a friend of his when they were in NY. His wife is pregnant now! They attend Shiloh church. My goddaughter's 'parents attend there. Her mom is also a member of this board. She knows Nancy very well. Hopefully she'll show up in this thread soon.

The youth league is a woderful idea. My husband and I were discussing doing this in Nashville, but the Lord sent us here for these 3 years. I pray that we can get back to Nashville if ATL is not in the picture. That puts me close to my parents and close enough to ATL.

Do you know Rosalyn Warren or Nancy Howard (Howell) or Joe Howell? Just gotta ask You know we think everybody knows everybody....lol

[kisz4tj]

Do you know Rosalyn Warren or Nancy Howard (Howell) or Joe Howell? Just gotta ask You know we think everybody knows everybody....lol

I don't know about other denominations but when I come across other SDA's I definitely feel a sense of kinship. :)

[kisz4tj]

I watch it on the computer very often...in fact if it gets too late I don't see the point of sitting in the overflow room. Might as well watch it online.

[AJamericanDiva]

Who'd a thunk it? EG White must be turning over :lol:

You got that right. I'm one of those people that don't like to quote E.G. White. I've read some of her stuff and I was like "What???" I even read where she had something against taking photos. Her writings are very much a part of the Adventist experience. I don't like to deal with it personally, so I even have to wonder if I am truly Seventh Day Adventist or just a Seventh Day observer. I've been to Seventh Day Baptist and other churches too....

Thank goodness I can have discussions with my uncle over topics that disturb me... this being one of them. I have come to realize though that religion won't get me saved. It's my personal relationship with Christ. That's why I don't stress over it too much. Why did I take this quiz that told you what your religion was based on your beliefs and SDA was maybe #6 of their suggested religions that they thought I was. I should post the quiz here if I can find it. I believe they had me down as Church of the Latter Day Saints as first choice. Very interesting. I must look for the quiz.

[good2uuuu]

When you said your Dad was Prez I figured. It really is a small world. Yup I have fond memories of the office back in the day too.

Well, some memories are fond....lol. I hated having to be there late at night when the folks were working. Talk about bored! I'd wonder around the office, but not too much. Although Teddy Morgan and Brother Theodore were cool, there was one security guard who creeped me out.

[AJamericanDiva]

The youth league is a woderful idea. My husband and I were discussing doing this in Nashville, but the Lord sent us here for these 3 years. I pray that we can get back to Nashville if ATL is not in the picture. That puts me close to my parents and close enough to ATL.

Do you know Rosalyn Warren or Nancy Howard (Howell) or Joe Howell? Just gotta ask You know we think everybody knows everybody....lol

Hey, I know Joe Howell!!!! He was also friends with my pals Arthur Powell, Erica Powell (can't remember her married name), June Sewer and my Godsister Jackie Williams (can't remember her married name either!)

[AJamericanDiva]

Have you attended Jules' Church- City Tab? I only visited there b4 he arrived and it was very conservative. He hasn't brought the "Kingsboro" atmosphere there?

I know City Tab is on the conservative side, hence I haven't visited. I don't know if it's changed since Jules' arrival, but somehow I doubt it. That's an old school church so I don't think they'll go for it... like Ephesus.

[AJamericanDiva]

I watch it on the computer very often...in fact if it gets too late I don't see the point of sitting in the overflow room. Might as well watch it online.

Yup! I agree! I "try" not to do this too often. There is a church walking distance from my house. I call it the J.Crew church. It has mixed ethnic backgrounds. I tend to fall asleep too easy though. :nono:

[kisz4tj]

I have come to realize though that religion won't get me saved. It's my personal relationship with Christ. That's why I don't stress over it too much. Amen to dat Sista! Why did I take this quiz that told you what your religion was based on your beliefs and SDA was maybe #6 of their suggested religions that they thought I was. I should post the quiz here if I can find it. I believe they had me down as Church of the Latter Day Saints as first choice. Very interesting. I must look for the quiz. SAY WHAT?!?!? You've gotta find that quiz.

[good2uuuu]

You got that right. I'm one of those people that don't like to quote E.G. White. I've read some of her stuff and I was like "What???" I even read where she had something against taking photos. Her writings are very much a part of the Adventist experience. I don't like to deal with it personally, so I even have to wonder if I am truly Seventh Day Adventist or just a Seventh Day observer. I've been to Seventh Day Baptist and other churches too....

Thank goodness I can have discussions with my uncle over topics that disturb me... this being one of them. I have come to realize though that religion won't get me saved. It's my personal relationship with Christ. That's why I don't stress over it too much. Why did I take this quiz that told you what your religion was based on your beliefs and SDA was maybe #6 of their suggested religions that they thought I was. I should post the quiz here if I can find it. I believe they had me down as Church of the Latter Day Saints as first choice. Very interesting. I must look for the quiz.

You know, the thing about EGW is that folks want to whip you over the head with her writings. Most people quote her out of context and that's unfortunate. She would most certainly turn over in her grave if she knew how much people throw her writings around and even place them above the Bible. She herself said that her writings are a lesser light and that the Bible is where we need to focus. Also, people forget that times were different then when she wrote. Modern conveniences were not around then, so, for example, tkaking a bath on Sabbath is not a big deal now like it was back then. It was a chore to pump water, heat it, fill the tub, dump it. You know? Today all we have to do is turn a knob and that's it. But, there are those who will condem you for taking a shower on Sabbath.

Lemme get off my soapbox. Just want to say that I believe EGW is very important even thogh there are a couple of things I do question. Unfortunately all her writings are highly edited so we don't get to see complete manuscripts. This is why I turn to the Bible first.

[good2uuuu]

Hey, I know Joe Howell!!!! He was also friends with my pals Arthur Powell, Erica Powell (can't remember her married name), June Sewer and my Godsister Jackie Williams (can't remember her married name either!)

Joe is my cuz!!! And Jackie and I were running buds as kids. LOL! I remember Arthur and Erica. Nancy is his sister.

[AJamericanDiva]

Amen to dat Sista! SAY WHAT?!?!? You've gotta find that quiz.

A-HA!!!! I found it!! I'd be curious to see what you guys get. Please let me know. Maybe I'll do it again to see what comes up.
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

[natalied]

She herself said that you should never ever take her writing over the holy scriptures. I've come to realize some of her writings were meant for people in her time. For instance, movies. Back in the day, movies were akin to bars, smoking and drinking and the like. I still enjoy reading her writings.

Remember, the one thing that makes Adventists different from ALL other religions is NOT the Sabbath. It is the sanctuary message.

When my husband first proposed we considered Seventh Day Baptist. He was Baptist. I was SDA. Sounded like a perfect compromise right?!? I gave him the great controversary to read after I had read it for the FIRST time (AND I WAS BORN ADVENTIST!). Then we both did independent bible studies (me in NY, and he in NC) and he ended up joing "my church"! Boy, was his family pissed off!:lol:

Sounds like you might be still searching. I'll keep you in prayer my Diva sista!:grin:

You got that right. I'm one of those people that don't like to quote E.G. White. I've read some of her stuff and I was like "What???" I even read where she had something against taking photos. Her writings are very much a part of the Adventist experience. I don't like to deal with it personally, so I even have to wonder if I am truly Seventh Day Adventist or just a Seventh Day observer. I've been to Seventh Day Baptist and other churches too....

Thank goodness I can have discussions with my uncle over topics that disturb me... this being one of them. I have come to realize though that religion won't get me saved. It's my personal relationship with Christ. That's why I don't stress over it too much. Why did I take this quiz that told you what your religion was based on your beliefs and SDA was maybe #6 of their suggested religions that they thought I was. I should post the quiz here if I can find it. I believe they had me down as Church of the Latter Day Saints as first choice. Very interesting. I must look for the quiz.

[natalied]

ITA!!!!!!!

You know, the thing about EGW is that folks want to whip you over the head with her writings. Most people quote her out of context and that's unfortunate. She would most certainly turn over in her grave if she knew how much people throw her writings around and even place them above the Bible. She herself said that her writings are a lesser light and that the Bible is where we need to focus. Also, people forget that times were different then when she wrote. Modern conveniences were not around then, so, for example, tkaking a bath on Sabbath is not a big deal now like it was back then. It was a chore to pump water, heat it, fill the tub, dump it. You know? Today all we have to do is turn a knob and that's it. But, there are those who will condem you for taking a shower on Sabbath.

Lemme get off my soapbox. Just want to say that I believe EGW is very important even thogh there are a couple of things I do question. Unfortunately all her writings are highly edited so we don't get to see complete manuscripts. This is why I turn to the Bible first.

[natalied]

I took that same test! It was about 3 years ago. I think Adventist came up second BUT that was before I really studied the church the way I needed too!

A-HA!!!! I found it!! I'd be curious to see what you guys get. Please let me know. Maybe I'll do it again to see what comes up.
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

[good2uuuu]

I know City Tab is on the conservative side, hence I haven't visited. I don't know if it's changed since Jules' arrival, but somehow I doubt it. That's an old school church so I don't think they'll go for it... like Ephesus.

I love Jules and I t hink he might have loosened the up a millimeter...lol. But yes, it is a conservative shurch. It's the last church my dad pastored before becoming conf. Prez. Even though a lot of the churches are quite conservative, I do miss the organization and order. I like to have a spirited worship also. I don't need to be jumping over pews, but give me som life in my service.....lol. Maybe my folks are getting a little looser in their old age becaue the sometimes go to MAdison Mission in Hunstville. This surprised me, but then they live right down the street from there. Don't think they'll ever embrace the lively services completely though. I peronally like to see a good balance in the service of different types of music, etc. so that everyones tastes are acknowleged.

[kisz4tj]

Oh your folks moved to Huntsville. I remember your Dad being very conservative and soft spoken.

Maybe my folks are getting a little looser in their old age becaue the sometimes go to MAdison Mission in Hunstville. This surprised me, but then they live right down the street from there. Don't think they'll ever embrace the lively services completely though.

[AJamericanDiva]

She herself said that you should never ever take her writing over the holy scriptures. I've come to realize some of her writings were meant for people in her time. For instance, movies. Back in the day, movies were akin to bars, smoking and drinking and the like. I still enjoy reading her writings.

Remember, the one thing that makes Adventists different from ALL other religions is NOT the Sabbath. It is the sanctuary message.

When my husband first proposed we considered Seventh Day Baptist. He was Baptist. I was SDA. Sounded like a perfect compromise right?!? I gave him the great controversary to read after I had read it for the FIRST time (AND I WAS BORN ADVENTIST!). Then we both did independent bible studies (me in NY, and he in NC) and he ended up joing "my church"! Boy, was his family pissed off!:lol:

Sounds like you might be still searching. I'll keep you in prayer my Diva sista!:grin:

Girl, you keep me in your prayers. I too was born Adventist... baptized twice. I already told Grandma (whose an ordained church elder) I ain't dippin' no more!!!

[AJamericanDiva]

You know, the thing about EGW is that folks want to whip you over the head with her writings. Most people quote her out of context and that's unfortunate. She would most certainly turn over in her grave if she knew how much people throw her writings around and even place them above the Bible. She herself said that her writings are a lesser light and that the Bible is where we need to focus. Also, people forget that times were different then when she wrote. Modern conveniences were not around then, so, for example, tkaking a bath on Sabbath is not a big deal now like it was back then. It was a chore to pump water, heat it, fill the tub, dump it. You know? Today all we have to do is turn a knob and that's it. But, there are those who will condem you for taking a shower on Sabbath.

Lemme get off my soapbox. Just want to say that I believe EGW is very important even thogh there are a couple of things I do question. Unfortunately all her writings are highly edited so we don't get to see complete manuscripts. This is why I turn to the Bible first.

That sums it up for me... Bible first and foremost. :)

[AJamericanDiva]

Joe is my cuz!!! And Jackie and I were running buds as kids. LOL! I remember Arthur and Erica. Nancy is his sister.

I was in SDA from 1-8 grade. I take it you were at Westchester Area SDA school with Jackie? I was at Bronx Manhattan SDA for 1-5, then RT Hudson for 6, then moved to Dallas where I met Erica and Arthur while going to City Temple SDA and attending the school of the same name. After that, I went to a Health Professions HS. I went to Arthur's wedding.

[AJamericanDiva]

OK... how bout when I retook that quiz they said I was 100% SDA. Hmmm... was I having amnesia when I took it first? :scratchch

[natalied]

OK... how bout when I retook that quiz they said I was 100% SDA. Hmmm... was I having amnesia when I took it first? :scratchch

:lol::lol::lol:

[kisz4tj]

A-HA!!!! I found it!! I'd be curious to see what you guys get. Please let me know. Maybe I'll do it again to see what comes up.
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

Well looks like I'm a protestant. SDA was #5 on the list :ohwell:

[AJamericanDiva]

Well looks like I'm a protestant. SDA was #5 on the list :ohwell:

Welll..... at least you're a Christian, right??? :ohwell:

[kisz4tj]

Both my girls to go RT Hudson now. My oldest went to Bx-Mnht for Pre-K.

[kisz4tj]

Welll..... at least you're a Christian, right??? :ohwell:
:lol: I guess

[good2uuuu]

I was in SDA from 1-8 grade. I take it you were at Westchester Area SDA school with Jackie? I was at Bronx Manhattan SDA for 1-5, then RT Hudson for 6, then moved to Dallas where I met Erica and Arthur while going to City Temple SDA and attending the school of the same name. After that, I went to a Health Professions HS. I went to Arthur's wedding.

Actually, when I say Jackie and I were running buds as kids, I meant before school and at the campground....lol! I actually went to Linden for school till 3rd grade, than homeschooled then went to Bethesda 7th and 8th grade then off to PFA. I got family in Dallas also. My cousins wife is a dentist out there. They are Marvin and Diane Earle. Don't know how long you were in Dallas or if you even met them. Now Erica I met at OC.

[natalied]

Girl, you keep me in your prayers. I too was born Adventist... baptized twice. I already told Grandma (whose an ordained church elder) I ain't dippin' no more!!!

:lachen::lachen::lachen:

When my hubby got baptized, I thought about going for it a second time. But I never did! Lookin' at how I was living I probably should have. I definietely was not a :littleang When I left my parents house (ya know the type: conservative carribean parentsO and went to college, I WAS OFF THE CHAIN!

[natalied]

My best friend and her sister went to Pine Forge. What years were you there?

Actually, when I say Jackie and I were running buds as kids, I meant before school and at the campground....lol! I actually went to Linden for school till 3rd grade, than homeschooled then went to Bethesda 7th and 8th grade then off to PFA. I got family in Dallas also. My cousins wife is a dentist out there. They are Marvin and Diane Earle. Don't know how long you were in Dallas or if you even met them. Now Erica I met at OC.

[good2uuuu]

OK... how bout when I retook that quiz they said I was 100% SDA. Hmmm... was I having amnesia when I took it first? :scratchch

:eek: And you wear jewry, too! LOL. Just messin' with ya. Ya know, as far as that can of worms issue is concerned, I can honestly say at this point in my journey I have no religious reasons for not wearing it. I just don't think that for me it's necessary or pratical, even though there is some gorgeous jewelry out there. I am however debating in my mind about a wedding band(don't like getting hit on). I even looked up to see what EGW has to say and the conclusion is that it's just not really necessary. No 'thou shalt not' or anything. Just that it's not necessary especially if its beyond your means, and a simple small band is not beyond my means.

[good2uuuu]

My best friend and her sister went to Pine Forge. What years were you there?

I was there '82 to '86 and know a lot of folks who where there at other times.

[AJamericanDiva]

Actually, when I say Jackie and I were running buds as kids, I meant before school and at the campground....lol! I actually went to Linden for school till 3rd grade, than homeschooled then went to Bethesda 7th and 8th grade then off to PFA. I got family in Dallas also. My cousins wife is a dentist out there. They are Marvin and Diane Earle. Don't know how long you were in Dallas or if you even met them. Now Erica I met at OC.

When I became a flight attendant, I sent my daughter to City Temple for 1st and 2nd grade. I had Diane work on her teeth. I know the Earles. This world is tooooooooo small!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't been to a campmeeting in ages!

[natalied]

:eek: And you wear jewry, too! LOL. Just messin' with ya. Ya know, as far as that can of worms issue is concerned, I can honestly say at this point in my journey I have no religious reasons for not wearing it. I just don't think that for me it's necessary or pratical, even though there is some gorgeous jewelry out there. I am however debating in my mind about a wedding band(don't like getting hit on). I even looked up to see what EGW has to say and the conclusion is that it's just not really necessary. No 'thou shalt not' or anything. Just that it's not necessary especially if its beyond your means, and a simple small band is not beyond my means.

I'm at that place too. My husband, who is a new believer compared to me, is against it. So I stopped wearing my wedding band about 2 or 3 years ago. He says that the jewlery issue is best understood in the context of the sanctuary. So we wil be doing a Bible study onit together. Sometimes its sad b/c I grew up SDA and he has to explain to me, the religion I grew up with. But I'm not complaining, that is his job as the "priest" of our home. I'm really fortunate in how he has embraced "the message". :)

[AJamericanDiva]

:eek: And you wear jewry, too! LOL. Just messin' with ya. Ya know, as far as that can of worms issue is concerned, I can honestly say at this point in my journey I have no religious reasons for not wearing it. I just don't think that for me it's necessary or pratical, even though there is some gorgeous jewelry out there. I am however debating in my mind about a wedding band(don't like getting hit on). I even looked up to see what EGW has to say and the conclusion is that it's just not really necessary. No 'thou shalt not' or anything. Just that it's not necessary especially if its beyond your means, and a simple small band is not beyond my means.

Gurl, I feel as long as it isn't gaudy. My ears are pierced, but I did not pierce my daughter's. She sometimes says she wants hers pierced, but I discourage her. I wear a wedding band and engagement ring.

My hubby isn't a baptized SDA. My uncle married us here in my resident lounge... I had a small wedding. I incorporated the exchange of rings in our ceremony. Of course my uncle wouldn't marry us without counselling. My husband is a Christian and we both worship on the Sabbath. He told me that although he already's been baptized, he'd like to be baptized into the SDA church. While I don't discourage him, don't you think baptism symbolizes the death of the old sinful man and putting on a Christ-like character? Would it be necessary to do it again? I don't say anything to him, but I wonder to myself.

[natalied]

I was there '82 to '86 and know a lot of folks who where there at other times.
Did you know a Sam Bagley or the Holmes sisters?

[AJamericanDiva]

I'm at that place too. My husband, who is a new believer compared to me, is against it. So I stopped wearing my wedding band about 2 or 3 years ago. He says that the jewlery issue is best understood in the context of the sanctuary. So we wil be doing a Bible study onit together. Sometimes its sad b/c I grew up SDA and he has to explain to me, the religion I grew up with. But I'm not complaining, that is his job as the "priest" of our home. I'm really fortunate in how he has embraced "the message". :)

Very good!

[good2uuuu]

Did you know a Sam Bagley or the Holmes sisters?

Yes I know SAm and Kimmie and Nicci! Nicci's son is my godson!!!!!

Is that why you look familiar? You actually do look like you could be related to Kimmie and Nicci.

[Barbi]

I've been an SDA for several years now.

[good2uuuu]

Gurl, I feel as long as it isn't gaudy. My ears are pierced, but I did not pierce my daughter's. She sometimes says she wants hers pierced, but I discourage her. I wear a wedding band and engagement ring.

My hubby isn't a baptized SDA. My uncle married us here in my resident lounge... I had a small wedding. I incorporated the exchange of rings in our ceremony. Of course my uncle wouldn't marry us without counselling. My husband is a Christian and we both worship on the Sabbath. He told me that although he already's been baptized, he'd like to be baptized into the SDA church. While I don't discourage him, don't you think baptism symbolizes the death of the old sinful man and putting on a Christ-like character? Would it be necessary to do it again? I don't say anything to him, but I wonder to myself.

Now I always thought that if you have already been baptized then you could join the SDA church on profession of faith. I could be wrong though. I never asked dad about that one. If he wants to be baptized, than that wouldn't hurt anything.

[natalied]

Yes I know SAm and Kimmie and Nicci! Nicci's son is my godson!!!!!

Is that why you look familiar? You actually do look like you could be related to Kimmie and Nicci.

I only know Sam. I don't know his sisters very well, if thats who you are referring too.My husband is attorney like Margo. We went to a Sothern Union attorney function 5 years ago and that's where we met them. They were very instrumental and the founding of our mission group. We have Sabbath lunch together often. When I renovated my investment property, Sam guided me through the process and gave me A LOT of help. I've met his parents though. SJ and my sons are good buds!

Once again, small world!!!

[good2uuuu]

[QUOTE=AJamericanDiva]Gurl, I feel as long as it isn't gaudy. My ears are pierced, but I did not pierce my daughter's. She sometimes says she wants hers pierced, but I discourage her. I wear a wedding band and engagement ring.

I can agree with that. I actually have more issue with folks and their fancy aht addicition. Some of those hats are sooooo gaudy!!!! If I showed up with a simple strand of pearls and some pearl studs, I would draw much less attention that those hats, which by the way are NOT cheap. But don't get me started!!! lol!

[natalied]

This is my understanding as well. I think a lot of people "like" to do it but don't "have" to do it.

Now I always thought that if you have already been baptized then you could join the SDA church on profession of faith. I could be wrong though. I never asked dad about that one. If he wants to be baptized, than that wouldn't hurt anything.

[RabiaElaine]

SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:

[natalied]

I've been an SDA for several years now.

Hi Barbi,

Megonw is a Bostonian SDA as well. What church do you go to?

[good2uuuu]

I only know Sam. I don't know his sisters very well, if thats who you are referring too.My husband is attorney like Margo. We went to a Sothern Union attorney function 5 years ago and that's where we met them. They were very instrumental and the founding of our mission group. We have Sabbath lunch together often. When I renovated my investment property, Sam guided me through the process and gave me A LOT of help. I've met his parents though. SJ and my sons are good buds!

Once again, small world!!!

Ooops! My bad! When you said Holmes sisters I was thinking Grant....lol. Nicci's married name is Holmes.....lol Erase that! I don't know Sams sisters.

[Bublnbrnsuga]

Can someone explain to me what SDA is? What do you all believe?

[natalied]

I totally understand! I wish you were here in Atlanta! I have 1 male cousin and 2 male friends who are SDA (not playing church, but grounded), single and searching. I know they get frustrated too.

I have friends in NY who say the same as you do. Where are the grounded single SDA men? I will keep you in prayer RabiaElaine! Have you looked at any of the online Adventist dating websites?:yep:

SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:

[good2uuuu]

SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:

Corona?? I remember it well! is Lawrence Brown still there? The last time Iwas there was in the fall of '98. My husbands singing group, the Brothers of NAshville stopped by for a minute. We were there because of the Hoespedales' . Russell was part of the group then. I assume you know Carnetta Williams? I love what they did rennovating the church. I remember when, way back in the day.....lol.

I also want to add that you are not alone. I have a couple of friends in the same situtaion with the brothas of the church.

[natalied]

Can someone explain to me what SDA is? What do you all believe?

SDA stands for Seventh Day Adventist.

We believe in the following

1. The Holy Scriptures:

The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. (2 Peter 1:20, 21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; Heb. 4:12.)

2. The Trinity:

There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. (Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 4:4-6; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 14:7.)

3. The Father:

God the eternal Father is the Creator, Source, Sustainer, and Sovereign of all creation. He is just and holy, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. The qualities and powers exhibited in the Son and the Holy Spirit are also revelations of the Father. (Gen. 1:1; Rev. 4:11; 1 Cor. 15:28; John 3:16; 1 John 4:8; 1 Tim. 1:17; Ex. 34:6, 7; John 14:9.)

4. The Son:

God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our place, was raised from the dead, and ascended to minister in the heavenly sanctuary in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. (John 1:1-3, 14; Col. 1:15-19; John 10:30; 14:9; Rom. 6:23; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; John 5:22; Luke 1:35; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 2:9-18; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4; Heb. 8:1, 2; John 14:1-3.)

5. The Holy Spirit:

God the eternal Spirit was active with the Father and the Son in Creation, incarnation, and redemption. He inspired the writers of Scripture. He filled Christ's life with power. He draws and convicts human beings; and those who respond He renews and transforms into the image of God. Sent by the Father and the Son to be always with His children, He extends spiritual gifts to the church, empowers it to bear witness to Christ, and in harmony with the Scriptures leads it into all truth. (Gen. 1:1, 2; Luke 1:35; 4:18; Acts 10:38; 2 Peter 1:21; 2 Cor. 3:18; Eph. 4:11, 12; Acts 1:8; John 14:16-18, 26; 15:26, 27; 16:7-13.)

6. Creation:

God is Creator of all things, and has revealed in Scripture the authentic account of His creative activity. In six days the Lord made "the heaven and the earth" and all living things upon the earth, and rested on the seventh day of that first week. Thus He established the Sabbath as a perpetual memorial of His completed creative work. The first man and woman were made in the image of God as the crowning work of Creation, given dominion over the world, and charged with responsibility to care for it. When the world was finished it was ``very good,'' declaring the glory of God. (Gen. 1; 2; Ex. 20:8-11; Ps. 19:1-6; 33:6, 9; 104; Heb. 11:3.)

7. The Nature of Man:

Man and woman were made in the image of God with individuality, the power and freedom to think and to do. Though created free beings, each is an indivisible unity of body, mind, and spirit, dependent upon God for life and breath and all else. When our first parents disobeyed God, they denied their dependence upon Him and fell from their high position under God. The image of God in them was marred and they became subject to death. Their descendants share this fallen nature and its consequences. They are born with weaknesses and tendencies to evil. But God in Christ reconciled the world to Himself and by His Spirit restores in penitent mortals the image of their Maker. Created for the glory of God, they are called to love Him and one another, and to care for their environment. (Gen. 1:26-28; 2:7; Ps. 8:4-8; Acts 17:24-28; Gen. 3; Ps. 51:5; Rom. 5:12-17; 2 Cor. 5:19, 20; Ps. 51:10; 1 John 4:7, 8, 11, 20; Gen. 2:15.)

8. The Great Controversy:

All humanity is now involved in a great controversy between Christ and Satan regarding the character of God, His law, and His sovereignty over the universe. This conflict originated in heaven when a created being, endowed with freedom of choice, in self-exaltation became Satan, God's adversary, and led into rebellion a portion of the angels. He introduced the spirit of rebellion into this world when he led Adam and Eve into sin. This human sin resulted in the distortion of the image of God in humanity, the disordering of the created world, and its eventual devastation at the time of the worldwide flood. Observed by the whole creation, this world became the arena of the universal conflict, out of which the God of love will ultimately be vindicated. To assist His people in this controversy, Christ sends the Holy Spirit and the loyal angels to guide, protect, and sustain them in the way of salvation. (Rev. 12:4-9; Isa. 14:12-14; Eze. 28:12-18; Gen. 3; Rom. 1:19-32; 5:12-21; 8:19-22; Gen. 6-8; 2 Peter 3:6; 1 Cor. 4:9; Heb. 1:14.)

9. The Life, Death, and Resurrection of Christ:

In Christ's life of perfect obedience to God's will, His suffering, death, and resurrection, God provided the only means of atonement for human sin, so that those who by faith accept this atonement may have eternal life, and the whole creation may better understand the infinite and holy love of the Creator. This perfect atonement vindicates the righteousness of God's law and the graciousness of His character; for it both condemns our sin and provides for our forgiveness. The death of Christ is substitutionary and expiatory, reconciling and transforming. The resurrection of Christ proclaims God's triumph over the forces of evil, and for those who accept the atonement assures their final victory over sin and death. It declares the Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. (John 3:16; Isa. 53; 1 Peter 2:21, 22; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4, 20-22; 2 Cor. 5:14, 15, 19-21; Rom. 1:4; 3:25; 4:25; 8:3, 4; 1 John 2:2; 4:10; Col. 2:15; Phil. 2:6-11.)

10. The Experience of Salvation:

In infinite love and mercy God made Christ, who knew no sin, to be sin for us, so that in Him we might be made the righteousness of God. Led by the Holy Spirit we sense our need, acknowledge our sinfulness, repent of our transgressions, and exercise faith in Jesus as Lord and Christ, as Substitute and Example. This faith which receives salvation comes through the divine power of the Word and is the gift of God's grace. Through Christ we are justified, adopted as God's sons and daughters, and delivered from the lordship of sin. Through the Spirit we are born again and sanctified; the Spirit renews our minds, writes God's law of love in our hearts, and we are given the power to live a holy life. Abiding in Him we become partakers of the divine nature and have the assurance of salvation now and in the judgment. (2 Cor. 5:17-21; John 3:16; Gal. 1:4; 4:4-7; Titus 3:3-7; John 16:8; Gal. 3:13, 14; 1 Peter 2:21, 22; Rom. 10:17; Luke 17:5; Mark 9:23, 24; Eph. 2:5-10; Rom. 3:21-26; Col. 1:13, 14; Rom. 8:14-17; Gal. 3:26; John 3:3-8; 1 Peter 1:23; Rom. 12:2; Heb. 8:7-12; Eze. 36:25-27; 2 Peter 1:3, 4; Rom. 8:1-4; 5:6-10.)


see my next two posts for continuation......

[AJamericanDiva]

[QUOTE=AJamericanDiva]Gurl, I feel as long as it isn't gaudy. My ears are pierced, but I did not pierce my daughter's. She sometimes says she wants hers pierced, but I discourage her. I wear a wedding band and engagement ring.

I can agree with that. I actually have more issue with folks and their fancy aht addicition. Some of those hats are sooooo gaudy!!!! If I showed up with a simple strand of pearls and some pearl studs, I would draw much less attention that those hats, which by the way are NOT cheap. But don't get me started!!! lol!

See, that's my argument with my uncle... what if it's expensive cars, clothing, watches, etc? Where exactly is the line drawn? So if I come in my studs, yet another is wearing Manolo Blahnik shoes, I will be the one to be looked down upon? I know God thinks it's OK to enjoy the fruits of your labor... as long as you are using some of those funds to further the ministry, giving appropriate tithe and offering.

[natalied]

11. The Church:

The church is the community of believers who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. In continuity with the people of God in Old Testament times, we are called out from the world; and we join together for worship, for fellowship, for instruction in the Word, for the celebration of the Lord's Supper, for service to all mankind, and for the worldwide proclamation of the gospel. The church derives its authority from Christ, who is the incarnate Word, and from the Scriptures, which are the written Word. The church is God's family; adopted by Him as children, its members live on the basis of the new covenant. The church is the body of Christ, a community of faith of which Christ Himself is the Head. The church is the bride for whom Christ died that He might sanctify and cleanse her. At His return in triumph, He will present her to Himself a glorious church, the faithful of all the ages, the purchase of His blood, not having spot or wrinkle, but holy and without blemish. (Gen. 12:3; Acts 7:38; Eph. 4:11-15; 3:8-11; Matt. 28:19, 20; 16:13-20; 18:18; Eph. 2:19-22; 1:22, 23; 5:23-27; Col. 1:17, 18.)

12. The Remnant and Its Mission:

The universal church is composed of all who truly believe in Christ, but in the last days, a time of widespread apostasy, a remnant has been called out to keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. This remnant announces the arrival of the judgment hour, proclaims salvation through Christ, and heralds the approach of His second advent. This proclamation is symbolized by the three angels of Revelation 14; it coincides with the work of judgment in heaven and results in a work of repentance and reform on earth. Every believer is called to have a personal part in this worldwide witness. (Rev. 12:17; 14:6-12; 18:1-4; 2 Cor. 5:10; Jude 3, 14; 1 Peter 1:16-19; 2 Peter 3:10-14; Rev. 21:1-14.)

13. Unity in the Body of Christ:

The church is one body with many members, called from every nation, kindred, tongue, and people. In Christ we are a new creation; distinctions of race, culture, learning, and nationality, and differences between high and low, rich and poor, male and female, must not be divisive among us. We are all equal in Christ, who by one Spirit has bonded us into one fellowship with Him and with one another; we are to serve and be served without partiality or reservation. Through the revelation of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures we share the same faith and hope, and reach out in one witness to all. This unity has its source in the oneness of the triune God, who has adopted us as His children. (Rom. 12:4, 5; 1 Cor. 12:12-14; Matt. 28:19, 20; Ps. 133:1; 2 Cor. 5:16, 17; Acts 17:26, 27; Gal. 3:27, 29; Col. 3:10-15; Eph. 4:14-16; 4:1-6; John 17:20-23.)

14. Baptism:

By baptism we confess our faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and testify of our death to sin and of our purpose to walk in newness of life. Thus we acknowledge Christ as Lord and Saviour, become His people, and are received as members by His church. Baptism is a symbol of our union with Christ, the forgiveness of our sins, and our reception of the Holy Spirit. It is by immersion in water and is contingent on an affirmation of faith in Jesus and evidence of repentance of sin. It follows instruction in the Holy Scriptures and acceptance of their teachings. (Rom. 6:1-6; Col. 2:12, 13; Acts 16:30-33; 22:16; 2:38; Matt. 28:19, 20.)

15. The Lord's Supper:

The Lord's Supper is a participation in the emblems of the body and blood of Jesus as an expression of faith in Him, our Lord and Saviour. In this experience of communion Christ is present to meet and strengthen His people. As we partake, we joyfully proclaim the Lord's death until He comes again. Preparation for the Supper includes self-examination, repentance, and confession. The Master ordained the service of foot washing to signify renewed cleansing, to express a willingness to serve one another in Christlike humility, and to unite our hearts in love. The communion service is open to all believing Christians. (1 Cor. 10:16, 17; 11:23-30; Matt. 26:17-30; Rev. 3:20; John 6:48-63; 13:1-17.)

16. Spiritual Gifts and Ministries:

God bestows upon all members of His church in every age spiritual gifts which each member is to employ in loving ministry for the common good of the church and of humanity. Given by the agency of the Holy Spirit, who apportions to each member as He wills, the gifts provide all abilities and ministries needed by the church to fulfill its divinely ordained functions. According to the Scriptures, these gifts include such ministries as faith, healing, prophecy, proclamation, teaching, administration, reconciliation, compassion, and self-sacrificing service and charity for the help and encouragement of people. Some members are called of God and endowed by the Spirit for functions recognized by the church in pastoral, evangelistic, apostolic, and teaching ministries particularly needed to equip the members for service, to build up the church to spiritual maturity, and to foster unity of the faith and knowledge of God. When members employ these spiritual gifts as faithful stewards of God's varied grace, the church is protected from the destructive influence of false doctrine, grows with a growth that is from God, and is built up in faith and love. (Rom. 12:4-8; 1 Cor. 12:9-11, 27, 28; Eph. 4:8, 11-16; Acts 6:1-7; 1 Tim. 3:1-13; 1 Peter 4:10, 11.)

17. The Gift of Prophecy:

One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White . As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.)

18. The Law of God:

The great principles of God's law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express God's love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God's covenant with His people and the standard in God's judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments. This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of well-being. It is an evidence of our love for the Lord and our concern for our fellow men. The obedience of faith demonstrates the power of Christ to transform lives, and therefore strengthens Christian witness. (Ex. 20:1-17; Ps. 40:7, 8; Matt. 22:36-40; Deut. 28:1-14; Matt. 5:17-20; Heb. 8:8-10; John 15:7-10; Eph. 2:8-10; 1 John 5:3; Rom. 8:3, 4; Ps. 19:7-14.)

19. The Sabbath:

The beneficent Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God's unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God's kingdom. The Sabbath is God's perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God's creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Ex. 20:8-11; Luke 4:16; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Matt. 12:1-12; Ex. 31:13-17; Eze. 20:12, 20; Deut. 5:12-15; Heb. 4:1-11; Lev. 23:32; Mark 1:32.)

20. Stewardship:

We are God's stewards, entrusted by Him with time and opportunities, abilities and possessions, and the blessings of the earth and its resources. We are responsible to Him for their proper use. We acknowledge God's ownership by faithful service to Him and our fellow men, and by returning tithes and giving offerings for the proclamation of His gospel and the support and growth of His church. Stewardship is a privilege given to us by God for nurture in love and the victory over selfishness and covetousness. The steward rejoices in the blessings that come to others as a result of his faithfulness. (Gen. 1:26-28; 2:15; 1 Chron. 29:14; Haggai 1:3-11; Mal. 3:8-12; 1 Cor. 9:9-14; Matt. 23:23; 2 Cor. 8:1-15; Rom. 15:26, 27.)



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[natalied]

21. Christian Behavior:

We are called to be a godly people who think, feel, and act in harmony with the principles of heaven. For the Spirit to recreate in us the character of our Lord we involve ourselves only in those things which will produce Christlike purity, health, and joy in our lives. This means that our amusement and entertainment should meet the highest standards of Christian taste and beauty. While recognizing cultural differences, our dress is to be simple, modest, and neat, befitting those whose true beauty does not consist of outward adornment but in the imperishable ornament of a gentle and quiet spirit. It also means that because our bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit, we are to care for them intelligently. Along with adequate exercise and rest, we are to adopt the most healthful diet possible and abstain from the unclean foods identified in the Scriptures. Since alcoholic beverages, tobacco, and the irresponsible use of drugs and narcotics are harmful to our bodies, we are to abstain from them as well. Instead, we are to engage in whatever brings our thoughts and bodies into the discipline of Christ, who desires our wholesomeness, joy, and goodness. (Rom. 12:1, 2; 1 John 2:6; Eph. 5:1-21; Phil. 4:8; 2 Cor. 10:5; 6:14-7:1; 1 Peter 3:1-4; 1 Cor. 6:19, 20; 10:31; Lev. 11:1-47; 3 John 2.)

22. Marriage and the Family:

Marriage was divinely established in Eden and affirmed by Jesus to be a lifelong union between a man and a woman in loving companionship. For the Christian a marriage commitment is to God as well as to the spouse, and should be entered into only between partners who share a common faith. Mutual love, honor, respect, and responsibility are the fabric of this relationship, which is to reflect the love, sanctity, closeness, and permanence of the relationship between Christ and His church. Regarding divorce, Jesus taught that the person who divorces a spouse, except for fornication, and marries another, commits adultery. Although some family relationships may fall short of the ideal, marriage partners who fully commit themselves to each other in Christ may achieve loving unity through the guidance of the Spirit and the nurture of the church. God blesses the family and intends that its members shall assist each other toward complete maturity. Parents are to bring up their children to love and obey the Lord. By their example and their words they are to teach them that Christ is a loving disciplinarian, ever tender and caring, who wants them to become members of His body, the family of God. Increasing family closeness is one of the earmarks of the final gospel message. (Gen. 2:18-25; Matt. 19:3-9; John 2:1-11; 2 Cor. 6:14; Eph. 5:21-33; Matt. 5:31, 32; Mark 10:11, 12; Luke 16:18; 1 Cor. 7:10, 11; Ex. 20:12; Eph. 6:1-4; Deut. 6:5-9; Prov. 22:6; Mal. 4:5, 6.)

23. Christ's Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary:

There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf, making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered once for all on the cross. He was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent. (Heb. 8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22; 1:3; 2:16, 17; Dan. 7:9-27; 8:13, 14; 9:24-27; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6; Lev. 16; Rev. 14:6, 7; 20:12; 14:12; 22:12.)

24. The Second Coming of Christ:

The second coming of Christ is the blessed hope of the church, the grand climax of the gospel. The Saviour's coming will be literal, personal, visible, and worldwide. When He returns, the righteous dead will be resurrected, and together with the righteous living will be glorified and taken to heaven, but the unrighteous will die. The almost complete fulfillment of most lines of prophecy, together with the present condition of the world, indicates that Christ's coming is imminent. The time of that event has not been revealed, and we are therefore exhorted to be ready at all times. (Titus 2:13; Heb. 9:28; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; Matt. 24:14; Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:43, 44; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2:8; Rev. 14:14-20; 19:11-21; Matt. 24; Mark 13; Luke 21; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; 1 Thess. 5:1-6.)

25. Death and Resurrection:

The wages of sin is death. But God, who alone is immortal, will grant eternal life to His redeemed. Until that day death is an unconscious state for all people. When Christ, who is our life, appears, the resurrected righteous and the living righteous will be glorified and caught up to meet their Lord. The second resurrection, the resurrection of the unrighteous, will take place a thousand years later. (Rom. 6:23; 1 Tim. 6:15, 16; Eccl. 9:5, 6; Ps. 146:3, 4; John 11:11-14; Col. 3:4; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 1 Thess. 4:13-17; John 5:28, 29; Rev. 20:1-10.)

26. The Millennium and the End of Sin:

The millennium is the thousand-year reign of Christ with His saints in heaven between the first and second resurrections. During this time the wicked dead will be judged; the earth will be utterly desolate, without living human inhabitants, but occupied by Satan and his angels. At its close Christ with His saints and the Holy City will descend from heaven to earth. The unrighteous dead will then be resurrected, and with Satan and his angels will surround the city; but fire from God will consume them and cleanse the earth. The universe will thus be freed of sin and sinners forever. (Rev. 20; 1 Cor. 6:2, 3; Jer. 4:23-26; Rev. 21:1-5; Mal. 4:1; Eze. 28:18, 19.)

27. The New Earth:

On the new earth, in which righteousness dwells, God will provide an eternal home for the redeemed and a perfect environment for everlasting life, love, joy, and learning in His presence. For here God Himself will dwell with His people, and suffering and death will have passed away. The great controversy will be ended, and sin will be no more. All things, animate and inanimate, will declare that God is love; and He shall reign forever. Amen. (2 Peter 3:13; Isa. 35; 65:17-25; Matt. 5:5; Rev. 21:1-7; 22:1-5; 11:15.)



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[good2uuuu]

Natalie, where did you get the ready reference from for what we belive? I need to download it to my files in that precise manner. Please tell me you didn't type it all out. I'm too lazy............

[natalied]

ITA. ANYTHING can be an idol!

[QUOTE=good2uuuu]

See, that's my argument with my uncle... what if it's expensive cars, clothing, watches, etc? Where exactly is the line drawn? So if I come in my studs, yet another is wearing Manolo Blahnik shoes, I will be the one to be looked down upon? I know God thinks it's OK to enjoy the fruits of your labor... as long as you are using some of those funds to further the ministry, giving appropriate tithe and offering.

[AJamericanDiva]

SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:

See, that's why after counselling and seeing how spiritual minded my hubby was my uncle was able to marry us. When we took the compatability test, he was too shocked that we were so compatable.... opposites.. me extrovert, outgoing, him laid back... but the common thread is that we both loved the Lord. I've dated Adventists and non-Adventists, so I've seen both of the spectrums. When I first told my hubby that they may not wed us as we're "unequally yoked" he was like, "WHAT? We both believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour". That ended that. Furthermore, he goes to church with me. He used to eat unclean foods, but no longer does. We don't have any problems. I couldn't have married a better man. That's just my situation. ... but I do know about the single SDA scene. It can be a tad depressing.

[RabiaElaine]

I totally understand! I wish you were here in Atlanta! I have 1 male cousin and 2 male friends who are SDA (not playing church, but grounded), single and searching. I know they get frustrated too.

I have friends in NY who say the same as you do. Where are the grounded single SDA men? I will keep you in prayer RabiaElaine! Have you looked at any of the online Adventist dating websites?:yep:

I heard that there are a lot of grounded men in Atlanta...I have some friends (married) that moved down there. I have not looked at any but a woman at my church has used them and she had a boyfriend from one of them for a while but they broke up, she's dating someone else now, I don't know where they met.

I'm not sure if I want to try the websites...I feel I should give it more time. Besides I am starting to become of the belief that the man is supposed to choose you (I just finished reading on of Michelle McKinney Hammond books...she's great), so I'm not sure how I feel about seeking them out. But maybe I could do it just to expand my scope of friends anyway (sigh).

[natalied]

GIRL NO! I'm to lazy too!

http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html


Natalie, where did you get the ready reference from for what we belive? I need to download it to my files in that precise manner. Please tell me you didn't type it all out. I'm too lazy............

[RabiaElaine]

Corona?? I remember it well! is Lawrence Brown still there? The last time Iwas there was in the fall of '98. My husbands singing group, the Brothers of NAshville stopped by for a minute. We were there because of the Hoespedales' . Russell was part of the group then. I assume you know Carnetta Williams? I love what they did rennovating the church. I remember when, way back in the day.....lol.

I also want to add that you are not alone. I have a couple of friends in the same situtaion with the brothas of the church.

Pastor Brown no longer pastors our church...he pastors Lebanon now I believe. He is still very much involved at our church because his daughter still is, she's in our Pathfinder club and participates in all of our children/youth/church events. Corona's a weird church that way, pastor's kids always remain at Corona despite where their father's are moved to.

I know the Hospedales very well. Caranetta, i know very well for many years, she still attends Corona. Yes the church rennovated itself a while back, it does look good...we hope to get a bigger church though, we are starting to bust at the seams.

[good2uuuu]

GIRL NO! I'm to lazy too!

http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/fundamental/index.html

Well duh! I spend most of my time on the Little Friend site for the kids.....lol. I can't tell you the last time I actually went to Sabbath School for myself! Thanks for the link!

[natalied]

I teach primary two Sabbaths a month. But the other Sabbaths, there is always something else I have to do so I don't attend adult class regularly. My husband teaches adult and it peeves him when I'm not in his class if I'm not teaching the kids:lol: I don't prepare my adult lesson.:spank: He has threatens to call on me when I come.

I did go a couple of weeks ago and do you know he had the NERVE to call on me even though he KNEW I didn't prepare! Good thing I'm a quick thinking sista and was ablet to answer:grin:

Well duh! I spend most of my time on the Little Friend site for the kids.....lol. I can't tell you the last time I actually went to Sabbath School for myself! Thanks for the link!

[good2uuuu]

Pastor Brown no longer pastors our church...he pastors Lebanon now I believe. He is still very much involved at our church because his daughter still is, she's in our Pathfinder club and participates in all of our children/youth/church events. Corona's a weird church that way, pastor's kids always remain at Corona despite where their father's are moved to.

I know the Hospedales very well. Caranetta, i know very well for many years, she still attends Corona. Yes the church rennovated itself a while back, it does look good...we hope to get a bigger church though, we are starting to bust at the seams.

good1 Ya'll were in there pretty tight the last time I was there. Yep, I know Lawrence from way back, though he has a few years on me. Caranetta and I were at Linden to gehter in elementary school although she is a year ahead of me. We were at OC at the same time also. I so miss NEC pathfinders. I never had the chance to be in a Pathfinder due to having to be at a different church each week (dad had to speak at different churches each week) and my parents schedule. I just always loved watching the enthusiasm and order. I really want my kids involved in pathfinders, but they don't really have any up here, and the club that does exist starts at 5th grade. I really wanted my kids to be Eager Beavers and Adventurers. I pray that we will end up where the Pathfinders are alive and well.

[natalied]

I don't see it as you necessarily seeking them out. You put your profile up and wait for them to contact you.

It's good to meet people! That's what I tell my cousin. Just get out there and meet new people!

Humm.......maybe I could put the two of you in contact? I'll send you a PM.

I heard that there are a lot of grounded men in Atlanta...I have some friends (married) that moved down there. I have not looked at any but a woman at my church has used them and she had a boyfriend from one of them for a while but they broke up, she's dating someone else now, I don't know where they met.

I'm not sure if I want to try the websites...I feel I should give it more time. Besides I am starting to become of the belief that the man is supposed to choose you (I just finished reading on of Michelle McKinney Hammond books...she's great), so I'm not sure how I feel about seeking them out. But maybe I could do it just to expand my scope of friends anyway (sigh).

[RabiaElaine]

See, that's why after counselling and seeing how spiritual minded my hubby was my uncle was able to marry us. When we took the compatability test, he was too shocked that we were so compatable.... opposites.. me extrovert, outgoing, him laid back... but the common thread is that we both loved the Lord. I've dated Adventists and non-Adventists, so I've seen both of the spectrums. When I first told my hubby that they may not wed us as we're "unequally yoked" he was like, "WHAT? We both believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour". That ended that. Furthermore, he goes to church with me. He used to eat unclean foods, but no longer does. We don't have any problems. I couldn't have married a better man. That's just my situation. ... but I do know about the single SDA scene. It can be a tad depressing.

Tad depressing is right. I went and visited the non-denominational church that the guy I'm seeing attends, the young men are are so 'Out there for the Lord'. That's the only way I can put it. It was strange for me to see a guy who wasn't singing, or who wasn't preaching just praising God and thanking him for all that he's done in his life, and it was real. I'm glad that your husband is deciding to change his lifestyle for himself...he will be healthier that way. If he does baptize Adventist at some point, it's very good that it won't be because you pressured him too. I know some women who have done that, it has backfired on them big time. I'm glad that you found that right man for you AJD. You go girl ;) .

I don't know what will happen with this guy I'm seeing. We actually had a very deep discussion about where we are going with this yesterday. We've decided that we are building a foundation for a relationship at this point (we've been seeing each other on and off for about 8 months now, we've been steadily on for about 5 months now). We don't want to just attach a label to our relationship just yet just because we've been seeing each other for some time now, at first I wanted to but now I don't that's pointless if there is no foundation. We both have stuff to still learn about each other before we enter into a serious relationship. We also are seeking the Lord regarding this so that we make the best decision. My parents are going to freak at some point if we do enter a serious relationship because he's not SDA, and I need to decide if I can handle that. We both stated that while we are not attaching a label to the relationship, that there is no one else in the picture on either side. Is this stupid, help me out?

[good2uuuu]

You know, I'm glad this thread was started. I hope we can keep it going. At first I wasn't going to participate in this particular forum because I felt that it excluded those who are not Christians but have other spiritual beliefs, but, I need this particular thread because being Black and SDA in Minnesota is no joke. I often feel like I'm loosing my spritiual edge due to the lack of fellowship that I am use to. It's really wonderful to hear about the happenings in other churches, especailly NY and Atl, since I know folks from both places and can relate. This is good.

[mohair]

Hi All,

I am SDA also. I attend Shiloh in Smyrna, GA (suburb of ATL).

[RabiaElaine]

good1 Ya'll were in there pretty tight the last time I was there. Yep, I know Lawrence from way back, though he has a few years on me. Caranetta and I were at Linden to gehter in elementary school although she is a year ahead of me. We were at OC at the same time also. I so miss NEC pathfinders. I never had the chance to be in a Pathfinder due to having to be at a different church each week (dad had to speak at different churches each week) and my parents schedule. I just always loved watching the enthusiasm and order. I really want my kids involved in pathfinders, but they don't really have any up here, and the club that does exist starts at 5th grade. I really wanted my kids to be Eager Beavers and Adventurers. I pray that we will end up where the Pathfinders are alive and well.

Maybe you should start up your own Adventure's club with some other parents. That's how they get started, because there is a need for them. I'm sure you are not the only one. You should really think about it. I think the Adventurer/Pathfinder Club is excellent. I learned a lot of life skills there that translated to school, then college, then the workforce. I encourage all parents to put their kids into Pathfinders. It's not perfect but trust me it's still well worth it in the end for your kids.

[good2uuuu]

Hi All,

I am SDA also. I attend Shiloh in Smyrna, GA (suburb of ATL).

Hi! You know, I ahve been racking my brain to remember which church my cousin got married in and I believe it was Shiloh. She got married in October '02. I assume this is where her memebership is also.

[RabiaElaine]

I don't see it as you necessarily seeking them out. You put your profile up and wait for them to contact you.

It's good to meet people! That's what I tell my cousin. Just get out there and meet new people!

Humm.......maybe I could put the two of you in contact? I'll send you a PM.

That's true I need to have a larger group of friends even both men and women.

[mohair]

I know Nancy!! I love her. Thanks to her, we now work together as well.

[kisz4tj]

See, that's why after counselling and seeing how spiritual minded my hubby was my uncle was able to marry us. When we took the compatability test, he was too shocked that we were so compatable.... opposites.. me extrovert, outgoing, him laid back... but the common thread is that we both loved the Lord. I've dated Adventists and non-Adventists, so I've seen both of the spectrums. When I first told my hubby that they may not wed us as we're "unequally yoked" he was like, "WHAT? We both believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour". That ended that. Furthermore, he goes to church with me. He used to eat unclean foods, but no longer does. We don't have any problems. I couldn't have married a better man. That's just my situation. ... but I do know about the single SDA scene. It can be a tad depressing.

I've felt for a long time that that scripture is never completed. Doesn't scripture say unequally yolked with "unbelievers"? Not just unequally yolked. You were definitely blessed.

[good2uuuu]

Maybe you should start up your own Adventure's club with some other parents. That's how they get started, because there is a need for them. I'm sure you are not the only one. You should really think about it. I think the Adventurer/Pathfinder Club is excellent. I learned a lot of life skills there that translated to school, then college, then the workforce. I encourage all parents to put their kids into Pathfinders. It's not perfect but trust me it's still well worth it in the end for your kids.

Actually, there was one, but the parents dropped it. Same thing with the childrens choir. No one wants to do these things. We only have 17 more months here, then we'll be gone. I hope there will be more interest where we go. If the Lord wills it that we go back to NAshville, than there will be no problem because my old church has all these things.

[RabiaElaine]

I've felt for a long time that that scripture is never completed. Doesn't scripture say unequally yolked with "unbelievers"? Not just unequally yolked. You were definitely blessed.

The scripture says unequally yoked with unbelievers. Different people interpret that different ways. I personally believe that you can be unequally yoked with a Seventh Day Adventist that has no real connection with the Lord and only calls themselves SDA. I haven't made up my mind about whether I could marry someone who believe in the Lord and has a relationship with him, but isn't an SDA, right now I'm seeing someone like that.

[good2uuuu]

I know Nancy!! I love her. Thanks to her, we now work together as well.

Small world! Though I confess to not keeping in touch as I should, she's my girl. Her, Lilli and Joe are the closest relatives to my age that I have. That's the main reason I want to live in Atl. I just want to be close to famliy.

[good2uuuu]

The scripture says unequally yoked with unbelievers. Different people interpret that different ways. I personally believe that you can be unequally yoked with a Seventh Day Adventist that has no real connection with the Lord and only calls themselves SDA. I haven't made up my mind about whether I could marry someone who believe in the Lord and has a relationship with him, but isn't an SDA, right now I'm seeing someone like that.

Exactly. There are so many claiming to be SDA but not remotely connected to what it means. Thern there are those who are not SDA, but are so connected spiritually. The only resolustion is to earnestly pray for guidance in these situations.

[natalied]

No. This is not stupid. You just have to be prayed up! The safest place to be is in God's will. I know I could not be married to a man who didn't keep the Sabbath. With children, it would make things too difficult. But that's me.

You have to decide if YOU could live with that and if that is what God wants for you. I know you know this but its worth repeating, don't go into a relationship thinking that he will change later.

He's non-Denominational now. That's were he is. You sound grounded in SDA. I believe families should worship together. Esp. when there are children involved. Are you willing to go to church on Sunday? These are decisions you must face.

My husband was not Adventist when we started dating or when we got engaged. We did a bible study and came to the same beliefs before we were married BUT I had made up my mind that I would not go through with the marriage unless he accepted the Sabbath. Lucky for him, he did.:lol: I told him this after we were married. He was upset after I told him, but he got over it.

ETA: BTW,I was not "practicing" Adventism when my hubby and I got engaged

I don't believe in wasting time while you are dating. If you see a future with him, pursue the relationship. If not, move on! Time is too precious. JMHO.

Tad depressing is right. I went and visited the non-denominational church that the guy I'm seeing attends, the young men are are so 'Out there for the Lord'. That's the only way I can put it. It was strange for me to see a guy who wasn't singing, or who wasn't preaching just praising God and thanking him for all that he's done in his life, and it was real. I'm glad that your husband is deciding to change his lifestyle for himself...he will be healthier that way. If he does baptize Adventist at some point, it's very good that it won't be because you pressured him too. I know some women who have done that, it has backfired on them big time. I'm glad that you found that right man for you AJD. You go girl ;) .

I don't know what will happen with this guy I'm seeing. We actually had a very deep discussion about where we are going with this yesterday. We've decided that we are building a foundation for a relationship at this point (we've been seeing each other on and off for about 8 months now, we've been steadily on for about 5 months now). We don't want to just attach a label to our relationship just yet just because we've been seeing each other for some time now, at first I wanted to but now I don't that's pointless if there is no foundation. We both have stuff to still learn about each other before we enter into a serious relationship. We also are seeking the Lord regarding this so that we make the best decision. My parents are going to freak at some point if we do enter a serious relationship because he's not SDA, and I need to decide if I can handle that. We both stated that while we are not attaching a label to the relationship, that there is no one else in the picture on either side. Is this stupid, help me out?

[RabiaElaine]

Exactly. There are so many claiming to be SDA but not remotely connected to what it means. Thern there are those who are not SDA, but are so connected spiritually. The only resolustion is to earnestly pray for guidance in these situations.

This is exactly what I've been struggling with, and praying to the Lord about. I have never really dated or met (that was available anyway) a man who is SDA and grounded. What's a girl to do? I will catch hell's fire, if I marry a man who is spiritually grounded but not SDA from my parents. I doubt they would attend my wedding:perplexed . Does anyone here believe that we should not marry anyone if they are not SDA...even if the man is spiritually grounded in the Lord??

[RabiaElaine]

No. This is not stupid. You just have to be prayed up! The safest place to be is in God's will. I know I could not be married to a man who didn't keep the Sabbath. With children, it would make things too difficult. But that's me.

You have to decide if YOU could live with that and if that is what God wants for you. I know you know this but its worth repeating, don't go into a relationship thinking that he will change later.

He's non-Denominational now. That's were he is. You sound grounded in SDA. I believe families should worship together. Esp. when there are children involved. Are you willing to go to church on Sunday? These are decisions you must face.

My husband was not Adventist when we started dating or when we got engaged. We did a bible study and came to the same beliefs before we were married BUT I had made up my mind that I would not go through with the marriage unless he accepted the Sabbath. Lucky for him, he did.:lol: I told him this after we were married. He was upset after I told him, but he got over it.

ETA: BTW,I was not "practicing" Adventism when my hubby and I got engaged

I don't believe in wasting time while you are dating. If you see a future with him, pursue the relationship. If not, move on! Time is too precious. JMHO.

Girl u just answered my question. I do see your point and believe you are right about thinking I'm going to change a man. That is definitely not my intent. I also don't want to have to fight with this man on Sabbath mornings about going to church. I don't mind attending other services for a certain program, like I've attended his church for certain concerts and things, but I don't plan on attending a non-denominational church on a regular basis. Yes I do need to examine this and pray about this some more. Don't you wish the Lord would just come down to you so that you know it's him talking to you, sometimes I'm not always sure what the Lord's will is in my life, maybe that's just me. I'd love to get an email from the Lord every once in while telling me what he wants me to do in all areas of my life.

[kisz4tj]

We all know that not SDA's are not the only ones that will be caught up in the air...so having said that I can't imagine being burnt to a crisp for marrying someone who loves the Lord and serves him with an open heart.

[kisz4tj]

Don't you wish the Lord would just come down to you so that you know it's him talking to you, sometimes I'm not always sure what the Lord's will is in my life, maybe that's just me. I'd love to get an email from the Lord every once in while telling me what he wants me to do in all areas of my life. You and me both!!

[natalied]

I have no doubt that God will answer your prayers. Ask Him for a sign and then wait until he tells you to move. Pray and fast. Fast and pray. If this relationship is important to you, make this a priority in your prayer life as well.

Girl u just answered my question. I do see your point and believe you are right about thinking I'm going to change a man. That is definitely not my intent. I also don't want to have to fight with this man on Sabbath mornings about going to church. I don't mind attending other services for a certain program, like I've attended his church for certain concerts and things, but I don't plan on attending a non-denominational church on a regular basis. Yes I do need to examine this and pray about this some more. Don't you wish the Lord would just come down to you so that you know it's him talking to you, sometimes I'm not always sure what the Lord's will is in my life, maybe that's just me. I'd love to get an email from the Lord every once in while telling me what he wants me to do in all areas of my life.

[natalied]

I agree, there are many sheep not of this fold. I just wouldn't want to deal with issues or be put in a place where I would have to compromise my beliefs for my husband or argue him down b/c he wants to do something on the Sabbath that I didn''t. Marriage is hard enough.

I know people who choose to go down that path. Their husbands don't respect the Sabbath and they are constantly in a state of turmoil. I will agree that there are some exceptions.

I also feel its important for a family to worship together. If he's willing to accept the Sabbath and respect my beliefs within Adventism, then cool. If not, for me that spells big trouble down the road.

We all know that not SDA's are not the only ones that will be caught up in the air...so having said that I can't imagine being burnt to a crisp for marrying someone who loves the Lord and serves him with an open heart.

[RabiaElaine]

We all know that not SDA's are not the only ones that will be caught up in the air...so having said that I can't imagine being burnt to a crisp for marrying someone who loves the Lord and serves him with an open heart.

You are absolutely right about SDA's not being the only one in heaven...we all know about the email joke about Room #8, don't we :). I'm still struggling with the second part since right now anyway I don't know any SDA men that are like that, which is why maybe I should open myself up to meeting more people. But right now I'm not sure that the Lord wants us to put ourselves in that situation with someone who serves the Lord but doesn't accept his Sabbath even though the truth has been revealed to him. I'm praying on this one.

[kisz4tj]

Tis true.......I agree, there are many sheep not of this fold. I just wouldn't want to deal with issues or be put in a place where I would have to compromise my beliefs for my husband or argue him down b/c he wants to do something on the Sabbath that I didn''t. Marriage is hard enough.

I know people who choose to go down that path. Their husbands don't respect the Sabbath and they are constantly in a state of turmoil. I will agree that there are some exceptions.

I also feel its important for a family to worship together. If he's willing to accept the Sabbath and respect my beliefs within Adventism, then cool. If not, for me that spells big trouble down the road.

[natalied]

Dating non-Adventist men and marrying them are TWO SEPERATE ISSUES. If you meet a non-SDA who is interested or open to the Sabbath and to Adventism, why not date? Now, if they are like "Heck No" to the Sabbath issue, I say RUN. Run Forest. RUN!!!


You are absolutely right about SDA's not being the only one in heaven...we all know about the email joke about Room #8, don't we :). I'm still struggling with the second part since right now anyway I don't know any SDA men that are like that, which is why maybe I should open myself up to meeting more people. But right now I'm not sure that the Lord wants us to put ourselves in that situation with someone who serves the Lord but doesn't accept his Sabbath even though the truth has been revealed to him. I'm praying on this one.

[AJamericanDiva]

This is exactly what I've been struggling with, and praying to the Lord about. I have never really dated or met (that was available anyway) a man who is SDA and grounded. What's a girl to do? I will catch hell's fire, if I marry a man who is spiritually grounded but not SDA from my parents. I doubt they would attend my wedding:perplexed . Does anyone here believe that we should not marry anyone if they are not SDA...even if the man is spiritually grounded in the Lord??

I'm married to a non-Adventist, so I don't think I should even answer. :rofl:
...and yes, my parents, ordained church elder Grandma and the entire lot were at the wedding.

[kisz4tj]

Dating non-Adventist men and marrying them are TWO SEPERATE ISSUES. If you meet a non-SDA who is interested or open to the Sabbath and to Adventism, why not date? Now, if they are like "Heck No" to the Sabbath issue, I say RUN. Run Forest. RUN!!!:lol: :lol:...

[natalied]

Yeah, but your husband practically is!!!!:lol:
I'm married to a non-Adventist, so I don't think I should even answer. :rofl:
...and yes, my parents, ordained church elder Grandma and the entire lot were at the wedding.

[AJamericanDiva]

Yeah, but your husband practically is!!!!:lol:

Ok... um, :look: this is true... However, I will state for the record that I couldn't bother dating a man who felt like we should have pork in the house or the kids could eat it, when I don't... or one that didn't believe the 7th day to be Sabbath... that's for sure. It would create too much grief! :whyme:

[natalied]

Tell me if this describes your husband:

When I met my husband:
1) He hated liquor.
2) Didn't care for clubs and "partying" (though we met at his fraternity's party!;))
3) Couldn't stand smoke.
4) Though swine was vile.


Outside of the Sabbath, he was Adventist and didn't even know it!

Ok... um, :look: this is true... However, I will state for the record that I couldn't bother dating a man who felt like we should have pork in the house or the kids could eat it, when I don't... or one that didn't believe the 7th day to be Sabbath... that's for sure. It would create too much grief! :whyme:

[AJamericanDiva]

Tell me if this describes your husband:

When I met my husband:
1) He hated liquor. He was an alcoholic!
2) Didn't care for clubs and "partying" (though we met at his fraternity's party!;)) Didn't mind... would play music LOUD when drunk!
3) Couldn't stand smoke. Was a smoker!!!
4) Though swine was vile. Ate pork and could cook some mean seafood dishes... curried shrimp, lobster....so I'm told as I didn't partake of these, but my worldly friends sure did love it! I'm messing up your theory ain't I???


Outside of the Sabbath, he was Adventist and didn't even know it!

Funny thing is that we first started dating when I was in college. He drank and smoked. YUCK! I left him because of his serious drinking problem, despite the fact that we were together 3 years as there was no way I'd marry anyone in this condition, muchless have kids. We managed to stay in touch over the years. I was close to his mom. He kept begging me to give him a chance. I got pregnant with the next relationship, then he had a child as well (there are 7 months between the kids). He told me how he accepted the Lord as his Savior and he no longer drank nor smoked. He told me he'd go to church with me and the whole nine. After much pleading, I gave him a chance. I told him that going to church with me would be something he'd have to do on his own. Not because he was trying to win me over. Well, we got married in 2002 and God couldn't have given me anyone better. We just had our first child together April of last year. Since he gave up those addictions, he cannot stand them. The funny thing is that he couldn't stand it when he was younger. Once he joined the US Army, he came back a drinking and smoking fool. God has delivered him. He knows that his body is a temple.

[natalied]

Wow! You two have a beautiful testimony! Have you ever shared it publicly? Outside of LHCF of course:look:

Funny thing is that we first started dating when I was in college. He drank and smoked. YUCK! I left him because of his serious drinking problem, despite the fact that we were together 3 years as there was no way I'd marry anyone in this condition, muchless have kids. We managed to stay in touch over the years. I was close to his mom. He kept begging me to give him a chance. I got pregnant with the next relationship, then he had a child as well (there are 7 months between the kids). He told me how he accepted the Lord as his Savior and he no longer drank nor smoked. He told me he'd go to church with me and the whole nine. After much pleading, I gave him a chance. I told him that going to church with me would be something he'd have to do on his own. Not because he was trying to win me over. Well, we got married in 2002 and God couldn't have given me anyone better. We just had our first child together April of last year. Since he gave up those addictions, he cannot stand them. The funny thing is that he couldn't stand it when he was younger. Once he joined the US Army, he came back a drinking and smoking fool. God has delivered him. He knows that his body is a temple.

[RabiaElaine]

Ok... um, :look: this is true... However, I will state for the record that I couldn't bother dating a man who felt like we should have pork in the house or the kids could eat it, when I don't... or one that didn't believe the 7th day to be Sabbath... that's for sure. It would create too much grief! :whyme:

So your husband believed in the Sabbath before you married?

[RabiaElaine]

Funny thing is that we first started dating when I was in college. He drank and smoked. YUCK! I left him because of his serious drinking problem, despite the fact that we were together 3 years as there was no way I'd marry anyone in this condition, muchless have kids. We managed to stay in touch over the years. I was close to his mom. He kept begging me to give him a chance. I got pregnant with the next relationship, then he had a child as well (there are 7 months between the kids). He told me how he accepted the Lord as his Savior and he no longer drank nor smoked. He told me he'd go to church with me and the whole nine. After much pleading, I gave him a chance. I told him that going to church with me would be something he'd have to do on his own. Not because he was trying to win me over. Well, we got married in 2002 and God couldn't have given me anyone better. We just had our first child together April of last year. Since he gave up those addictions, he cannot stand them. The funny thing is that he couldn't stand it when he was younger. Once he joined the US Army, he came back a drinking and smoking fool. God has delivered him. He knows that his body is a temple.

Awwww what a nice love story :) with a happy ending. And I've Diva's child in church he sure is cute and her daughter is beautiful just like her mommy;) !!!

[RabiaElaine]

I would just like to take a commercial break to say.... I love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You ladies are giving me a chance to get some things off my chest with some fellow church sisters!!! And since we are so real on LHCF it really helps that everyone is going to give you their real opinion. Honestly I needed this release today. Thanks girls :kiss: ...let's keep this thread going.

[natalied]

I would just like to take a commercial break to say.... I love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You ladies are giving me a chance to get some things off my chest with some fellow church sisters!!! And since we are so real on LHCF it really helps that everyone is going to give you their real opinion. Honestly I needed this release today. Thanks girls :kiss: ...let's keep this thread going.

Me too!!! I truly believe LHCF was a Godsend to me AND my hair!

[AJamericanDiva]

I would just like to take a commercial break to say.... I love this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You ladies are giving me a chance to get some things off my chest with some fellow church sisters!!! And since we are so real on LHCF it really helps that everyone is going to give you their real opinion. Honestly I needed this release today. Thanks girls :kiss: ...let's keep this thread going.

yeah, let's!!! I'm sure the thread starter will be shocked when she comes back to pages and pages of thread! :eek:

[RabiaElaine]

yeah, let's!!! I'm sure the thread starter will be shocked when she comes back to pages and pages of thread! :eek:

I know it's growing mighty fast. I've been on this thread most of the day and not the hair care ones surprisingly:p . But it's good to have some fellowship online.

[AJamericanDiva]

So your husband believed in the Sabbath before you married?

He started attending church w/me when we hooked up. There were days when I didn't feel like going to church and he'd be like "Let's go! Gotta get charged up for the week." Made me feel ashamed of myself, so I'd go.

[AJamericanDiva]

Awwww what a nice love story :) with a happy ending. And I've Diva's child in church he sure is cute and her daughter is beautiful just like her mommy;) !!!

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_18_4.gif Awwww... shucks!!!

[natalied]

Believe me. I know the feeling.

He started attending church w/me when we hooked up. There were days when I didn't feel like going to church and he'd be like "Let's go! Gotta get charged up for the week." Made me feel ashamed of myself, so I'd go.

[AJamericanDiva]

Believe me. I know the feeling.

Girl.... I thank God he sent this man to help keep me "in line." :lachen:

[good2uuuu]

Yep. This is a great thread! I happen to be home today because my son is sick. This is really a blessing to me because I don't have the opportunity to just let my hair down, so to speak, amongst the sistas of the faith since we moved here. It's great to be able to do this even though it's all online an not in person. and this thread has really taken off!!!! Let's keep it going strong!

[angelk316]

I am glad I stared this thread. I thought I was by myself. I was raised in the adventist church all my life. My father and brother are not strict adventist. But my mother and sister believe in the old school teachings. when it comes to religion I dont do what people tell my to do I do what God tells me do. I have a personall relationship with God so I know when he is speaking too me. I do believe in the Sabbath. I am strugglinh with the jewlery issue. I am praying on that though. I am 22 years old and I have never worn jewlery, and I am tired of looking plain. I am thinking about starting to wear jewlery, but I know my mother would seriously disprove of it.

Do any of you guys have strict adventist parents that are old school? and are totally against the things you do?

The dating issue, I have not dated a man who is SDA. My current BF is very spritual but he does not believe in religion. I think God has sent him to me.

[natalied]

Girl.... I thank God he sent this man to help keep me "in line." :lachen:

:lol::lol::lol:It does feel like that some time! But your right, they are Godsends!

[AJamericanDiva]

I am glad I stared this thread. I thought I was by myself. I was raised in the adventist church all my life. My father and brother are not strict adventist. But my mother and sister believe in the old school teachings. when it comes to religion I dont do what people tell my to do I do what God tells me do. I have a personall relationship with God so I know when he is speaking too me. I do believe in the Sabbath. I am strugglinh with the jewlery issue. I am praying on that though. I am 22 years old and I have never worn jewlery, and I am tired of looking plain. I am thinking about starting to wear jewlery, but I know my mother would seriously disprove of it.

Do any of you guys have strict adventist parents that are old school? and are totally against the things you do?

The dating issue, I have not dated a man who is SDA. My current BF is very spritual but he does not believe in religion. I think God has sent him to me.

Thanks for starting the thread. DId you anticipate coming back to many pages? I am guilty of wearing jewelry. My family is of that old school generation, but me being a grown woman and all don't even bother with me. Ultimately it's between you and God. That's my take on it. Sure, I was raised to not wear it. I pierced my ears at 26. I was always sneaking makeup and jewelry to school, sure to take it off before I got home. I still don't see anything wrong with it... but that's ME. Once again, it's ultimately between you and God.

[aqualung]

Do any of you guys have strict adventist parents that are old school? and are totally against the things you do?


Yes, I do. I'm 3rd generation SDA. My sibs and I read the Bible through entirely multiple times, and we read a lot of EG White.

I was homeschooled until 8th grade, and my parents are fundamentalist types. My mother didn't even want us exposed to Pathfinders and SDA school systems before college for fear of corruption. (Her generation went through Pine Forge and Oakwood, and she's disappointed that so many in her clique are now "Sadventists" who don't observe all the doctrine.)

The SDAs in the youth group at Boston Temple are all over educated. They rationalize away their disagreements with the doctrine (jewelry, makeup, voting, female ministers) as part of their "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." All their movie going and wine tasting has my mom pitching fits. Everyone has informed commentary about EG White's credibility or lack thereof. Nobody attends church except on Sabbath.

The SDAs at the black Cambridge church are more traditional. EG White is preached from the pulpit. Pathfinders, Adventurers, Wed night prayer mtg, etc meet regularly.

I have difficulty escaping the all-or-nothing way of thinking, so I feel guilty over my violations of the doctrinal does and don'ts. My grown sisters wear a little makeup. I don't wear makeup often, but I have cheap jewelry. All my siblings are conservative and responsible people. Maybe that was the point. (Even Mom danced a little disco in the 70s.)

I hope to marry an SDA so that I don't have to explain my eccentricities. I want engagement and wedding rings. I'll raise my kids with exposure to the denomination, but I'd be equally disappointed if they are irrationally zealous or entirely atheist.

Best to avoid the extremes.

[good2uuuu]

I am glad I stared this thread. I thought I was by myself. I was raised in the adventist church all my life. My father and brother are not strict adventist. But my mother and sister believe in the old school teachings. when it comes to religion I dont do what people tell my to do I do what God tells me do. I have a personall relationship with God so I know when he is speaking too me. I do believe in the Sabbath. I am strugglinh with the jewlery issue. I am praying on that though. I am 22 years old and I have never worn jewlery, and I am tired of looking plain. I am thinking about starting to wear jewlery, but I know my mother would seriously disprove of it.

Do any of you guys have strict adventist parents that are old school? and are totally against the things you do?

The dating issue, I have not dated a man who is SDA. My current BF is very spritual but he does not believe in religion. I think God has sent him to me.

My parents are very old school and were pretty strict on me. There are some things and views thatI hold to myself and things I wear, though not outlandish, only when I know I won't be seeing them(a dress a couple of inches above my knees) And I'm 36. Just no need to rock the boat and get a sermon....lol. As far a jewelry, ask yourself why you rally want to wear it. Personally, and this is a view I would not share witih my parents, I have no religious reason for not wearing it. After studying in the Bible and seeing what EG White had to say, my conclusion is that it is just not necessary for me or practical, especially if it is beyond my means. There is no 'thou shalt not' in there. There is some nice jewelry out there that is conservative and not 'attention seeking' but again, what would be my purpose for wearing it?

[natalied]

Yeah. My parents are Haitian. They were strict though not as bad as some of my other family members.

When I came home to visit one summer from college I had the "audacity" to wear jewlery. My dad freaked. By the next day, the earrings were gone! Nowhere in sight! I told my Dad "papy, I want my earings back"

Do you know what he said?

He said, "I'll pay you not to wear them."

And of course a poor college student like me said.

"Sure!":lachen:

I took the money and bought myself a new set of earrings when I got back to NY:lol:

I don't wear jewelry anymore.


Anyway, my parents have loosened up along the years. And I've gotten more strict. We are not at the exact same place but much closer than we ever were before. My parents now belong to the mission me and my husband started and they enjoy (gasp!) Praise team! You should see them. Its kind of funny when you think about how we used to worship growing up.

We attended Maranatha in Queens. Its a Haitian church. VERY CONSERVATIVE!
I am glad I stared this thread. I thought I was by myself. I was raised in the adventist church all my life. My father and brother are not strict adventist. But my mother and sister believe in the old school teachings. when it comes to religion I dont do what people tell my to do I do what God tells me do. I have a personall relationship with God so I know when he is speaking too me. I do believe in the Sabbath. I am strugglinh with the jewlery issue. I am praying on that though. I am 22 years old and I have never worn jewlery, and I am tired of looking plain. I am thinking about starting to wear jewlery, but I know my mother would seriously disprove of it.

Do any of you guys have strict adventist parents that are old school? and are totally against the things you do?

The dating issue, I have not dated a man who is SDA. My current BF is very spritual but he does not believe in religion. I think God has sent him to me.

[natalied]

I would also like to add that I find Adventism to be a blessing in its totality. Not the traditions, but the actual fundemental beliefs. I am proud to call myself a Seventh-Day Adventist because I believe the 27 fundemental beliefs are sound and bible-based.

I have no problem telling people of Ellen White either. As long as we don't put her writings above the Bible, like she stated, I think her writings can be a blessing to many. The curator of the Library of Congress has said that the Desire of Ages is the best comprehensive book on the life of Jesus outside of the Bible. The curator IS NOT Adventist. I have also heard that the radio commentator Paul Harvey has quoted her. Steps to Christ is the best selling religious book outside of the Bible. Many people of other faiths use it. This is a testimony to her writings. (And yes, I have seen the anti EGW sites. And I've read the rebuttal site!)

Thanks Angel for starting this thread! I'll keep you in prayer. As long as you stay in His will, he will reveal the wonderful plan He has in store for you. It doesn't matter if your family agrees with you or not. Only God's "opinion" matters!

[taivillo]

Hello SDA checking in. I hope I am not to late. I am sooooo excited we are all one happy family connected through someone we know. I know Joe , Lilli, and Nancy Howell very well. I also Remember Prez Earle as Prez back in the day. I remember IDA Williams Sec of Conference for years. I once worked at the conference when I was in college. My best friend Natalied told me about this thread and I could not wait to get on to meet my Sis in Christ. :)
This is a great thread. I use to come to Kingsboro alot. My sisters and I last sang there in April 2002. Love the church.
I know Carnetta from Corona church. I also know the Bell family. I'm not sure if they are still there but wow.
I know Jackie and Joceylyn Williams.
I attended PFA 89-90.
This is truly a small world. I always wondered if there were some other SDA sistas on this forum.

[hOnii]

i'm SDA as well!

[natalied]

i'm SDA as well!

Hi Honii,

I used to live in Florida. What church do you go too?

[good2uuuu]

Hello SDA checking in. I hope I am not to late. I am sooooo excited we are all one happy family connected through someone we know. I know Joe , Lilli, and Nancy Howell very well. I also Remember Prez Earle as Prez back in the day. I remember IDA Williams Sec of Conference for years. I once worked at the conference when I was in college. My best friend Natalied told me about this thread and I could not wait to get on to meet my Sis in Christ. :)
This is a great thread. I use to come to Kingsboro alot. My sisters and I last sang there in April 2002. Love the church.
I know Carnetta from Corona church. I also know the Bell family. I'm not sure if they are still there but wow.
I know Jackie and Joceylyn Williams.
I attended PFA 89-90.
This is truly a small world. I always wondered if there were some other SDA sistas on this forum.

Well dang girl! You know my cousins and my daddy and also went to PFA? It's a VERY small world!

[natalied]

Taivillo is one of "Holmes sisters" I was asking if you knew earlier!
Well dang girl! You know my cousins and my daddy and also went to PFA? It's a VERY small world!

[hOnii]

Hi Honii,

I used to live in Florida. What church do you go too?

Brandon SDA.

I used to church hop, so I've been some of everywhere in the Tampa area.

[natalied]

I used to live in Miami. I wished I had met you b4 November. I went on a cruise that left from Port of Tampa. The cruised ended 8 a.m. on Sat. I wanted to go church be me and DH didn't know anyone. So we hung out at the airport until our flight left at 4 p.m.

[good2uuuu]

Taivillo is one of "Holmes sisters" I was asking if you knew earlier!

Ok! Well see, she knows me indirectly then....lol. My brain did a crazy thing earlier when you asked and I was thinking about some other sisters.....lol.

[good2uuuu]

We attended Maranatha in Queens. Its a Haitian church. VERY CONSERVATIVE![/QUOTE]

You went to Maranatha? I remember it well! When I was little I hated when dad had to speak at the french or hispanic churches because he's already long winded, then you add a translator and you got a good 3 hour sermon on your hands.....lol! Torture for a small child. But, the fellowship was always wonderful afterward.

[good2uuuu]

Brandon SDA.

I used to church hop, so I've been some of everywhere in the Tampa area.

Do you know Robert Watkins, Nicole 'Niki' Powell or the Mitchells (Alphonso, Ozzie, Lisa?

[natalied]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

It was torture for me too! My DH is AA but even if he was Haitian I wouldn't go to a Haitian church!

We attended Maranatha in Queens. Its a Haitian church. VERY CONSERVATIVE!
You went to Maranatha? I remember it well! When I was little I hated when dad had to speak at the french or hispanic churches because he's already long winded, then you add a translator and you got a good 3 hour sermon on your hands.....lol! Torture for a small child. But, the fellowship was always wonderful afterward.

[prettygrl]

I'm not a Seventh Day Adventist, but everyone in my family is...
I still follow the dietarty laws though

[good2uuuu]

[QUOTE=natalied]:rofl::rofl::rofl:

It was torture for me too! My DH is AA but even if he was Haitian I wouldn't go to a Haitian church!


So you heard some of dads sermons then....lol! Seriously, he is a good speaker, but the long winded part would do me in, even at AA churches.

[natalied]

To know if your dad spoke there I would have had to be paying attention:lol:
We left there when I turned 12. We moved to Miami.





So you heard some of dads sermons then....lol! Seriously, he is a good speaker, but the long winded part would do me in, even at AA churches.

[good2uuuu]

To know if your dad spoke there I would have had to be paying attention:lol:
We left there when I turned 12. We moved to Miami.

:lol: :lol:

So in Miami, did you know Edmond and Edwins Charles? I'm sure you know those Ryan boys though.

[natalied]

:lol: :lol:

So in Miami, did you know Edmond and Edwins Charles? I'm sure you know those Ryan boys though.

I think I know Edwins. I was in 9th and he was in 12th grade at GMA (Greater Miami Academy). If its the same Edwins, he was in the same class with my cousin. They had a singing group together.

[AJamericanDiva]

I know Jackie and Joceylyn Williams.
This is truly a small world. I always wondered if there were some other SDA sistas on this forum.

These are my godsisters.... :rofl:

[AJamericanDiva]

I'm not a Seventh Day Adventist, but everyone in my family is...
I still follow the dietarty laws though

Hey, Prettygrl!!! :wave:

[taivillo]

I know Roger & Randy Ryan

[taivillo]

good2uuuu
I was in my girlfriends wedding and your parents were there. Her name is Robin Gellineau. She lives in Tenn., Nashville I was so happy to see your dad. I've always admired him through the years. I took a pic with him. If I can find it I will post it so you can see it.

[good2uuuu]

good2uuuu
I was in my girlfriends wedding and your parents were there. Her name is Robin Gellineau. She lives in Tenn., Nashville I was so happy to see your dad. I've always admired him through the years. I took a pic with him. If I can find it I will post it so you can see it.

Awww. That's so sweet! DAd would love to hear that. I'm sure he enjoyed taking that picture. After all these years, he still the same peopel loving person he always was. I was at the wedding Hubby and I moved here from NAshville June '03. Carlin use to be our choir director till he decided to do something different. Were you at Robins Shower at Mark & Sherrie's house? I was there. I so miss NAshville.

[prettygrl]

Hey, Prettygrl!!! :wave:

Hey AJamericanDiva!

[natalied]

Question for all:

How do you feel about hymns? I am praise team leader at our church. The format for the past two years has been 4 praise team songs and 1 opening hymn.

Now, a few people want 1 Sabbath a month to be all hymns. OK. Cool.
I still don't like it. But I can go with the flow.

Now, one person wants 3 Sabbaths out of the month to be 4 hymns and 1 praise & worship song. Of course, I about had a heart attack. I doubt this motion will pass in the church but the thought of it was like "I wouldn't even want to go to this church to sit through that."

Mind you, I love my church. I am a founding member. My DH sits on the board. And I even delivered the message on more than one occasion.

But I can't stand most hymns. I don't like the music. I think they are very Euro-centric and I don't feel anything when I sing most of them. Now I'm not talking all the songs in the hymnal b/c they're are some non hymns in the Adventist hymnal.

Other Adventist look at me like I'm crazy for not liking hymns. Like I'm betraying the church or something. How do you guys feel about hymns? Do you feel its part of the whole experience of being Adventist? Or is just a preference?

[kisz4tj]

Wow, I go away and there's a zillion more pages...So Diva are we going to do a meet and greet on Sabbath?

[good2uuuu]

Question for all:

How do you feel about hymns? I am praise team leader at our church. The format for the past two years has been 4 praise team songs and 1 opening hymn.

Now, a few people want 1 Sabbath a month to be all hymns. OK. Cool.
I still don't like it. But I can go with the flow.

Now, one person wants 3 Sabbaths out of the month to be 4 hymns and 1 praise & worship song. Of course, I about had a heart attack. I doubt this motion will pass in the church but the thought of it was like "I wouldn't even want to go to this church to sit through that."

Mind you, I love my church. I am a founding member. My DH sits on the board. And I even delivered the message on more than one occasion.

But I can't stand most hymns. I don't like the music. I think they are very Euro-centric and I don't feel anything when I sing most of them. Now I'm not talking all the songs in the hymnal b/c they're are some non hymns in the Adventist hymnal.

Other Adventist look at me like I'm crazy for not liking hymns. Like I'm betraying the church or something. How do you guys feel about hymns? Do you feel its part of the whole experience of being Adventist? Or is just a preference?

I like a fair number of hymns, but you are right. They can be kinda boring. How about 2 and 2? Pick more intersting hymns and then maybe everyone will be happy for the most part.

I think hymns are definately an important part of the Adventist worship experience, but not the only important part. I like a balanced service where the types of music are mixed so everyone can be blessed.There is plenty of other music out there that enahces the worship expereince. Plus not everyone can relate to hymns. When I attended PFA Iwas in the choir all 4 years and we sang hymns, anthems and spirituals. what I loved about that experience was singing the different arrangements of the hymns. The harmony and all the different parts. So, to be honest, I actually would rather hear and sing hymns that have been arranged into a more interesting presentation.

I have to go now becaue I have a splitting headache and need to take something. I don't know how much sense what I wrote aboe makes. I hope you can understand what I was trying to say, cause right now, I'm not sure I can. I'll try to explain myself better later.

[taivillo]

No I did not attend Robin's shower. I flew in the Friday of the wedding and I attended church and the rehersal. I was in her speech choir. Robin actually called me yesterday. I have to call her back . Small world :)

[RabiaElaine]

Hello SDA checking in. I hope I am not to late. I am sooooo excited we are all one happy family connected through someone we know. I know Joe , Lilli, and Nancy Howell very well. I also Remember Prez Earle as Prez back in the day. I remember IDA Williams Sec of Conference for years. I once worked at the conference when I was in college. My best friend Natalied told me about this thread and I could not wait to get on to meet my Sis in Christ. :)
This is a great thread. I use to come to Kingsboro alot. My sisters and I last sang there in April 2002. Love the church.
I know Carnetta from Corona church. I also know the Bell family. I'm not sure if they are still there but wow.
I know Jackie and Joceylyn Williams.
I attended PFA 89-90.
This is truly a small world. I always wondered if there were some other SDA sistas on this forum.

The Bell's still attend, Easton Bell anyway. His parents moved to Ohio earlier this year.

[RabiaElaine]

Question for all:

How do you feel about hymns? I am praise team leader at our church. The format for the past two years has been 4 praise team songs and 1 opening hymn.

Now, a few people want 1 Sabbath a month to be all hymns. OK. Cool.
I still don't like it. But I can go with the flow.

Now, one person wants 3 Sabbaths out of the month to be 4 hymns and 1 praise & worship song. Of course, I about had a heart attack. I doubt this motion will pass in the church but the thought of it was like "I wouldn't even want to go to this church to sit through that."

Mind you, I love my church. I am a founding member. My DH sits on the board. And I even delivered the message on more than one occasion.

But I can't stand most hymns. I don't like the music. I think they are very Euro-centric and I don't feel anything when I sing most of them. Now I'm not talking all the songs in the hymnal b/c they're are some non hymns in the Adventist hymnal.

Other Adventist look at me like I'm crazy for not liking hymns. Like I'm betraying the church or something. How do you guys feel about hymns? Do you feel its part of the whole experience of being Adventist? Or is just a preference?

For me I like both. It really depends on how you sing the hymns. It can be lively or very dreary. If you sing the hymns with some praise and worship tone it can be very good, especially if you have multiple instruments. At Corona we don't have a drumset yet, but we have a very expensive keyboard piano (it looks like a grand piano but it's really a key board). The keyboard can play all different types of sounds. We've got a great pianist who can make you Jam to some hymns when he uses different sounds and techniques.

I do like the hymns for some of the messages that they give, such as the Sabbath hymns explaining why we worship on Sabbath. I do believe that an Adventist church should sing hymns because they are a part of who we are as adventist, now that does not mean that you need to completely replace praise and worship because I love me some praise and worship. I wish my church would do more praise and worship, and we are getting there. Caranetta often does the praise and worship. Anyway I think it's truly how the congregation sings during the hymns and how the choral director directs it. I say maybe you can incorporate hymns into your praise and worship do some of each so that both parties can be satisfied.

[taivillo]

Do you know Omar Bell?

[RabiaElaine]

Do you know Omar Bell?

I've met him but don't know him well, he lives in Ohio or Pennsylvania, I know his brother Easton very well. My family and his are good friends.

[hOnii]

Do you know Robert Watkins, Nicole 'Niki' Powell or the Mitchells (Alphonso, Ozzie, Lisa?

the names dont ring a bell. what church do they go to?

[good2uuuu]

the names dont ring a bell. what church do they go to?

I'm not sure. They are in the Tampa/St. Pete area so I just though I'd ask. One more couple is Faith Weir Felder and Eddie Felder. She's a doctor in Tampa.

[AJamericanDiva]

Wow, I go away and there's a zillion more pages...So Diva are we going to do a meet and greet on Sabbath?


Yup! Yup! Yup! I betta set the alarm. I'll be wearing braids... you've seen my album. More than likely I'll be sitting in the back row as I have the boy.... :)

[taivillo]

I know Eddie Felder and the whole Felder family. I did not know he and his wife moved to Florida. I heard Thommy is in D.C.

[good2uuuu]

I know Eddie Felder and the whole Felder family. I did not know he and his wife moved to Florida. I heard Thommy is in D.C.

Yep. They have been there for years. You know, I forgot about Thommy...lol! Eddie and Thommy's cousin Janice is my girl. All at OC back in the day. Man oh man.

[good2uuuu]

Just wanted to say Happy Sabbath everyone! Have blessed fellowship during these hours. Now, I'm off to finish gettin' ready.

[kisz4tj]

Just wanted to say Happy Sabbath everyone! Have blessed fellowship during these hours. Now, I'm off to finish gettin' ready.
Happy Sabbath!

[TransitioningK]

I am very interested in learning more about the SDA faith. Could somone go into a little deeper about the dietary laws and the reason why people (women) should not wear jewlery or make-up.

Besides those beleifs stated above, what makes you all different from the Baptist faith? I am watching one of the recorded services from Kingsboro Temple and it seems very much like my church, and I am Baptist.

Thanks, I am looking forward to learning more.

TK

[Dymondz7]

I grew up as and SDA, went through the private schools, etc. But I no longer practice. Why do you ask?:confused:

[hOnii]

I am very interested in learning more about the SDA faith. Could somone go into a little deeper about the dietary laws and the reason why people (women) should not wear jewlery or make-up.

Besides those beleifs stated above, what makes you all different from the Baptist faith? I am watching one of the recorded services from Kingsboro Temple and it seems very much like my church, and I am Baptist.

Thanks, I am looking forward to learning more.

TK

well, i for one wear jewelry and make-up, so i cant really say anything about that.

SDA's observe the seventh day as the sabbath as stated in the bible and so we arent supposed to engage in "wordly things" from sundown friday to sunset saturday. its hard.. but hey.

sda's also believe that when you die, you do not go straight to heaven, you stay in the ground, until Jesus comes. then you are judged along with those who are still living (as to going to heaven or hell).

sda's dont eat pork, or certain seafoods. i cant recall the exact wording on the seafood issue.

[AJamericanDiva]

Hi TransitioningK! :wave:
I too wear jewelry and makeup, but I abide by the dietary laws as written in Leviticus 11:1-47. Here is the link. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=3&chapter=11&version=51 Most Adventists do not wear jewelry or makeup as they have interpreted from 1 Peter 3:3. Here's the link http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20peter%203:1-4;&version=51; Hope this helps!


I am very interested in learning more about the SDA faith. Could somone go into a little deeper about the dietary laws and the reason why people (women) should not wear jewlery or make-up.

Besides those beleifs stated above, what makes you all different from the Baptist faith? I am watching one of the recorded services from Kingsboro Temple and it seems very much like my church, and I am Baptist.

Thanks, I am looking forward to learning more.

TK

[AJamericanDiva]

It was nice meeting you, Kisz4tj!!! Girl, the concert was wonderful... It was a tribute to gospel music. I sure do hope they have it available on video or dvd. They sang all of my old gospel favorites.. "Lord, I Love you", "There is no way I can live without you", "Don't wait 'til the battle is over, shout now!", "Oh Happy Day"... and the list goes on. It was sooo spiritually uplifting. I need to re-join the youth choir... now called "Exhaltation Ministries".


Yup! Yup! Yup! I betta set the alarm. I'll be wearing braids... you've seen my album. More than likely I'll be sitting in the back row as I have the boy.... :)

[AJamericanDiva]

P.S. Did you see the Youth Choir's 5th Anniversary Concert? Here's the link. http://www.kingsborosda.org/youth_page.htm

[RabiaElaine]

[QUOTE=TransitioningK]I am very interested in learning more about the SDA faith. Could somone go into a little deeper about the dietary laws and the reason why people (women) should not wear jewlery or make-up.

Besides those beleifs stated above, what makes you all different from the Baptist faith? I am watching one of the recorded services from Kingsboro Temple and it seems very much like my church, and I am Baptist.

Thanks, I am looking forward to learning more.


Hi TransitioningK,

There was a post earlier on this thread with our 27 Beliefs, they are all biblically based. Look for the post earlier on this thread.

I hope that helps.

[TransitioningK]

Thanks ladies.

The link for the childrens choir is not a direct one. Do you know what date it was held?

[AJamericanDiva]

Thanks ladies.

The link for the childrens choir is not a direct one. Do you know what date it was held?

The Youth Choir link is above. Click it and then a page comes up saying Youth something or the other. On that page you see a pic that says "Click on picture to view KBT Youth Choir 5th Anniversary" It isn't the children's choir, but teen up until 30's or so.... yeah, we 30 somethings still hang with the youth choir.

[kisz4tj]

It was nice meeting you, Kisz4tj!!! Girl, the concert was wonderful... It was a tribute to gospel music. I sure do hope they have it available on video or dvd. They sang all of my old gospel favorites.. "Lord, I Love you", "There is no way I can live without you", "Don't wait 'til the battle is over, shout now!", "Oh Happy Day"... and the list goes on. It was sooo spiritually uplifting. I need to re-join the youth choir... now called "Exhaltation Ministries".

Hey Diva, it truly was great to meet you and your family. Who woulda thought we'd meet at church ;) Lil Papa is just DELICIOUS. I'm sure the concert was off the hook. I've thought about joining the choir. I guess I'm too intimidated. I'm a contralto. I've gotta peep that link.

[RabiaElaine]

Hey Ladies,


I'm going to Dallas this weekend for a convention, does anyone know of a good SDA church to attend while I'm there??

Thanks in advance :).

[good2uuuu]

Hey Ladies,


I'm going to Dallas this weekend for a convention, does anyone know of a good SDA church to attend while I'm there??

Thanks in advance :).

http://www.dallascitytemple.org (http://www.dallascitytemple.org/) Don't know why the adress and phone number are not on the web page. This is the only church I have been to in Dallas. Even though it has been several years since I was there, I remember that the service was good.

HTH!

Actually, the address and phone number are on the contact us page.

[RabiaElaine]

http://www.dallascitytemple.org (http://www.dallascitytemple.org/) Don't know why the adress and phone number are not on the web page. This is the only church I have been to in Dallas. Even though it has been several years since I was there, I remember that the service was good.

HTH!

Actually, the address and phone number are on the contact us page.

Thanks so much girl!!

[good2uuuu]

No prob! Enjoy your Dallas trip. Wish I were going......lol.

[RabiaElaine]

No prob! Enjoy your Dallas trip. Wish I were going......lol.

Thanks...It will be my first time there. I've never been to Texas. I'm excited, I wish you could go too and show me around.

[good2uuuu]

Well, I would have to rely on my cousins for the showing around part. I don't know Dallas at all. My cousins are the Earles, Marvin and Diane, incase you get to church and run into them. They are cool people.

[HoneyLemonDrop]

Heeey! I cannot believe that I saw this thread so late. I too was raised SDA, I havent been to church in years though. I went to an SDA school too. Anyone ever heard of Hanson Place? I went to Hanson Place Church for many years as well.

Can anyone tell me why in all these years are the only two high schools in existence still Greater NY Academy and North Eastern Academy? My daughter is getting ready to graduate from Jackson Heights SDA and it really bothers me that besides sleepaways like Blue Mountain Academy and Pine Forge(sp?) those two high schools are our only options.

[good2uuuu]

Heeey! I cannot believe that I saw this thread so late. I too was raised SDA, I havent been to church in years though. I went to an SDA school too. Anyone ever heard of Hanson Place? I went to Hanson Place Church for many years as well.

Can anyone tell me why in all these years are the only two high schools in existence still Greater NY Academy and North Eastern Academy? My daughter is getting ready to graduate from Jackson Heights SDA and it really bothers me that besides sleepaways like Blue Mountain Academy and Pine Forge(sp?) those two high schools are our only options.

Hey! I know Hanson Place! We didn't get by there much though. I went to Linden school till 3rd grade, then home school then Bethesda for 7th and 8th grade, then Pine Forge. I personally was not about to go to Northeastern, not that I have anything against it, but I did not want to have to get up that early to go to the conference office to catch the bus every day. Folks were a little upset with my dad because they sent me to PFA instead of Northeastern (he was chairman of the board), but, I think the best decision was made.

I guess there are no other schools because of the money it would take, among other things (politics, dare I say). That's a whole nother subject! lol!

[levette]

I am a SDA as well. I have been once since the age of 10. I couldn't believe how long this thread was on this subject. Anybody going to Oakwood's Alumni weekend. I just made my reservation. It will be March 24-March 27, 2005

[RabiaElaine]

Heeey! I cannot believe that I saw this thread so late. I too was raised SDA, I havent been to church in years though. I went to an SDA school too. Anyone ever heard of Hanson Place? I went to Hanson Place Church for many years as well.

Can anyone tell me why in all these years are the only two high schools in existence still Greater NY Academy and North Eastern Academy? My daughter is getting ready to graduate from Jackson Heights SDA and it really bothers me that besides sleepaways like Blue Mountain Academy and Pine Forge(sp?) those two high schools are our only options.

I know Hanson Place. One of my former pastor, pastored there. His name was Pastor Hoyte, he passed last year or the year before.

Regarding schools, that bothers me too. I don't have kids yet, but I know that my kids will not be attending either school. I don't know why we as God's people, have to be so sub par in the education that we provide for our kids. I plan to move my kids to the suburbs like my mother did and have them go to school there. I don't believe that God is happy with what has happened to His schools. Anyway that's my little vent.

[RabiaElaine]

Well, I would have to rely on my cousins for the showing around part. I don't know Dallas at all. My cousins are the Earles, Marvin and Diane, incase you get to church and run into them. They are cool people.

Thanks for the recommendation. The service was lovely!!!!! I did not meet your cousins but all the people at the church were very nice. A couple came and picked me up from my hotel and dropped me back after lunch. I really enjoyed it.

Thanks again, and Happy Sabbath to everyone!:)

[natalied]

Hi Levette:wave:,

I live in Atlanta and I've never been to Alumni. I've heard that its something you HAVE TO experience. Maybe one year. What church do you go to? Do you live in the Southeast?

I am a SDA as well. I have been once since the age of 10. I couldn't believe how long this thread was on this subject. Anybody going to Oakwood's Alumni weekend. I just made my reservation. It will be March 24-March 27, 2005

[HoneyLemonDrop]

I know Hanson Place. One of my former pastor, pastored there. His name was Pastor Hoyte, he passed last year or the year before.

Regarding schools, that bothers me too. I don't have kids yet, but I know that my kids will not be attending either school. I don't know why we as God's people, have to be so sub par in the education that we provide for our kids. I plan to move my kids to the suburbs like my mother did and have them go to school there. I don't believe that God is happy with what has happened to His schools. Anyway that's my little vent.

I feel you. Ive heard so many not-so-nice-things about both schools and it's really frustrating. I dont want to send my daughter to a public school especially not in NYC....*sigh* Im thinking about moving myself.

[good2uuuu]

I am a SDA as well. I have been once since the age of 10. I couldn't believe how long this thread was on this subject. Anybody going to Oakwood's Alumni weekend. I just made my reservation. It will be March 24-March 27, 2005

Have enough fun for me. This is the first year EVER i won't be going. I'm so sad about it. May parents live in Huntsville and we always use this time to be together. Plus that Sabbath is my daughters 2nd birthday and we won't get to have the ususal family celebration.

[good2uuuu]

Thanks for the recommendation. The service was lovely!!!!! I did not meet your cousins but all the people at the church were very nice. A couple came and picked me up from my hotel and dropped me back after lunch. I really enjoyed it.

Thanks again, and Happy Sabbath to everyone!:)

I'm so glad you had a good time! The people are very nice there.

I knew Pastor Hoyte. I was surprised he passed. My folks attenended the funeral. He was really nice. He showed my family a wonderful time when we visited Barbados when he was there.

[zora]

Hey, I'm not SDA but have gone to Kingsboro. I know the head deacon, Troy.

[AngelicRose07]

las vegas SDA over here! i didnt realize there were so many on this forum!

[RabiaElaine]

I feel you. Ive heard so many not-so-nice-things about both schools and it's really frustrating. I dont want to send my daughter to a public school especially not in NYC....*sigh* Im thinking about moving myself.

I live in Northern Westchester, my parents moved here before I started the 6th grade, it was one of the best things they could have done for my education. Both my sister and myself got into NYU for college with some scholarships. There are a lot of opportunities at the public schools in this area. I do have a cousin that went to Greater and now he's finishing his last year at MIT, so it really depends on the type of student you are. However I plan to give my child as many advantages as I possibly can.

[RabiaElaine]

I'm so glad you had a good time! The people are very nice there.

I knew Pastor Hoyte. I was surprised he passed. My folks attenended the funeral. He was really nice. He showed my family a wonderful time when we visited Barbados when he was there.

Yes Pastor Hoyte was a great man. I did not get to attend his funeral though.

[shinyblackhair]

Newly baptized SDA over here!!

I am interested in discussing with you all your views on caffeine drinks/chocolate. My hubby and I feel that this is more a EGW teaching rather than a Biblical principal. We don't eat pork/shellfish/ or consume alchol, however neither of us feel that tea or coffee is a spiritual hinderance or a sin.

Where do you all stand on this issue and any insight that we may be overlooking is most certainly welcome. :)

[natalied]

Hi SBH!

I LOOOOVVVEEEEEEE chocolate:lick:. That is my weakness! Chocolate cake, chocalate candy bars, hot chocolate, chocolate dipped strawberries, chocolate ice cream, chocolate cookies, I could go on and on and on. But I also realize that chocolate is not good for me. Just like a host of other things. Ellen White also speaks about the dangers of sugar. And now the world is agreeing with her on the needs to limit sugar. She was way ahead of her time with the dangers of sugar, smoking and a lots of other things.

I don't believe she calls these individual acts a sin. I believe she lays out in her books what God revealed to her as what is and what is not best for our bodies. Caffeine is a stimulant. Is is good for my body? That is the principle I think she is trying to portray in her books on healthful living. I don't think smoking is mentioned in the Bible but I cannot see how smoking is acceptable in God's sight.

I believe not caring for your temple properly is an offense to God. My body is the temple of God therefore I am required take care of it accordingly.
1 Cor 3:16 -17 says
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Now I know I'm not there yet. I still eat chocolate occasionally (like I said b4, its a weakness:lol:), I don't exercise consistently,I love me some cake, and occasionally I'll have a diet coke (the kind that has caffeine in it). But I am slowly and surely reducing these things from my diet and trying to exercise more often.

God has brought me a mighty long way. I gave up all meat except fish last year, and gave up fish this January. Its not that I believe eating clean meats is a sin. But for me, God has revealed his plan for my life and that includes heathlful living. That includes abstaining from smoking, eating less sugar, avoiding white bread, eating more fruits,vegetables, and nuts and abstaining from meat.

We all are not given light at the same time. But the light you have received you are responsible for knowing and following. Therefore, what God has revealed to me, he might not have revealed to you. And vice versa.

Here is a quote from EGW's Ministry of Healing that sums it up for me:

In order to know what are the best foods, we must study God's original plan for man's diet. He who created man and who understands his needs appointed Adam his food.

Bottom line: God's knows what best for us. Not only in what we do but also what we eat:)

Newly baptized SDA over here!!

I am interested in discussing with you all your views on caffeine drinks/chocolate. My hubby and I feel that this is more a EGW teaching rather than a Biblical principal. We don't eat pork/shellfish/ or consume alchol, however neither of us feel that tea or coffee is a spiritual hinderance or a sin.

Where do you all stand on this issue and any insight that we may be overlooking is most certainly welcome. :)

[good2uuuu]

las vegas SDA over here! i didnt realize there were so many on jthis forum!

Please fill me in on the happenings and church activites there. Nevada is one of the states my hubby is considering getting his license in and if he does, I refuse to live anywhere but Las Vegas. I need to be areound people, not in the middle of the dessert.

[good2uuuu]

Hi SBH!

I LOOOOVVVEEEEEEE chocolate:lick:. That is my weakness! Chocolate cake, chocalate candy bars, hot chocolate, chocolate dipped strawberries, chocolate ice cream, chocolate cookies, I could go on and on and on. But I also realize that chocolate is not good for me. Just like a host of other things. Ellen White also speaks about the dangers of sugar. And now the world is agreeing with her on the needs to limit sugar. She was way ahead of her time with the dangers of sugar, smoking and a lots of other things.

I don't believe she calls these individual acts a sin. I believe she lays out in her books what God revealed to her as what is and what is not best for our bodies. Caffeine is a stimulant. Is is good for my body? That is the principle I think she is trying to portray in her books on healthful living. I don't think smoking is mentioned in the Bible but I cannot see how smoking is acceptable in God's sight.

I believe not caring for your temple properly is an offense to God. My body is the temple of God therefore I am required take care of it accordingly.
1 Cor 3:16 -17 says
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Now I know I'm not there yet. I still eat chocolate occasionally (like I said b4, its a weakness:lol:), I don't exercise consistently,I love me some cake, and occasionally I'll have a diet coke (the kind that has caffeine in it). But I am slowly and surely reducing these things from my diet and trying to exercise more often.

God has brought me a mighty long way. I gave up all meat except fish last year, and gave up fish this January. Its not that I believe eating clean meats is a sin. But for me, God has revealed his plan for my life and that includes heathlful living. That includes abstaining from smoking, eating less sugar, avoiding white bread, eating more fruits,vegetables, and nuts and abstaining from meat.

We all are not given light at the same time. But the light you have received you are responsible for knowing and following. Therefore, what God has revealed to me, he might not have revealed to you. And vice versa.

Here is a quote from EGW's Ministry of Healing that sums it up for me:

In order to know what are the best foods, we must study God's original plan for man's diet. He who created man and who understands his needs appointed Adam his food.

Bottom line: God's knows what best for us. Not only in what we do but also what we eat:)

I totally agree, and I too am a chocoholic.

[AngelicRose07]

Please fill me in on the happenings and church activites there. Nevada is one of the states my hubby is considering getting his license in and if he does, I refuse to live anywhere but Las Vegas. I need to be areound people, not in the middle of the dessert.

theres a great church on j street. you probably dont know where that is but the people seem really nice. i havent been consistent on going but id love to be. ive noticed alot of the people are west indian...which i REALLY like

[good2uuuu]

theres a great church on j street. you probably dont know where that is but the people seem really nice. i havent been consistent on going but id love to be. ive noticed alot of the people are west indian...which i REALLY like

Ok. That's good to know. Now, tell me a little about what it's like living in vegas for 'us' black folk....lol. I have really had some culture shock moving from Nashville to Minnesota, so I gotta know! We do plan to vist there one day soon, so than I'll get a better perspective. Thanks for your input!

[RabiaElaine]

I totally agree with Natalied!!! I also have a chocolate weakness, a chicken weakness, and have the occasional beef patty. I don't think these things are sins but God knows what is good for us. You should note that Ellen G. White also had a weakness for chicken I believe, but she eventually gained the victory! I hope to do the same one day.



Hi SBH!

I LOOOOVVVEEEEEEE chocolate:lick:. That is my weakness! Chocolate cake, chocalate candy bars, hot chocolate, chocolate dipped strawberries, chocolate ice cream, chocolate cookies, I could go on and on and on. But I also realize that chocolate is not good for me. Just like a host of other things. Ellen White also speaks about the dangers of sugar. And now the world is agreeing with her on the needs to limit sugar. She was way ahead of her time with the dangers of sugar, smoking and a lots of other things.

I don't believe she calls these individual acts a sin. I believe she lays out in her books what God revealed to her as what is and what is not best for our bodies. Caffeine is a stimulant. Is is good for my body? That is the principle I think she is trying to portray in her books on healthful living. I don't think smoking is mentioned in the Bible but I cannot see how smoking is acceptable in God's sight.

I believe not caring for your temple properly is an offense to God. My body is the temple of God therefore I am required take care of it accordingly.
1 Cor 3:16 -17 says
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Now I know I'm not there yet. I still eat chocolate occasionally (like I said b4, its a weakness:lol:), I don't exercise consistently,I love me some cake, and occasionally I'll have a diet coke (the kind that has caffeine in it). But I am slowly and surely reducing these things from my diet and trying to exercise more often.

God has brought me a mighty long way. I gave up all meat except fish last year, and gave up fish this January. Its not that I believe eating clean meats is a sin. But for me, God has revealed his plan for my life and that includes heathlful living. That includes abstaining from smoking, eating less sugar, avoiding white bread, eating more fruits,vegetables, and nuts and abstaining from meat.

We all are not given light at the same time. But the light you have received you are responsible for knowing and following. Therefore, what God has revealed to me, he might not have revealed to you. And vice versa.

Here is a quote from EGW's Ministry of Healing that sums it up for me:

In order to know what are the best foods, we must study God's original plan for man's diet. He who created man and who understands his needs appointed Adam his food.

Bottom line: God's knows what best for us. Not only in what we do but also what we eat:)

[AngelicRose07]

Ok. That's good to know. Now, tell me a little about what it's like living in vegas for 'us' black folk....lol. I have really had some culture shock moving from Nashville to Minnesota, so I gotta know! We do plan to vist there one day soon, so than I'll get a better perspective. Thanks for your input!

i havent really noticed any racism out here. i mean, it exists...hell i went thru 9th and 10th grade with the KKK all up in the highschool. but even then racism wasnt really bold.

the people here are generally nice and our ghetto isnt as ghetto as alot of other states. so the worst of our city is better than the worst of other cities(make sense, lol). but it shouldnt be too much of a culture shock living out here..just be aware that it gets about 115-120 in the summer...ouch!

[good2uuuu]

HAha! Wait till I tell hubby about the 115 to 120 in the summer! He can't STAND hot weather....lol! Thanks for responding!

[levette]

You know, chocolate is also one of my weaknesses. I love chocolate candy and will impulsively eat it without a second thought. I never really think about caffeine being in chocolate. Does it mean that we are not supposed to eat it?

The other day, I was reading a website re: E.G. White. I ran across something that she was quoted saying that before when a person decides to get right with the the Lord or prior to his 2nd coming , they would get off of meat. What do you'll think about that?

I still struggle with the meat issue. I don't eat the unclean meats, but I love chicken and fish.

[Bklynqueen]

I was born and raised a Seventh Day Adventist. Am now a backslider

[AngelicRose07]

HAha! Wait till I tell hubby about the 115 to 120 in the summer! He can't STAND hot weather....lol! Thanks for responding!

lol, then vegas DEFINATELY isnt the place for him

[natalied]

[QUOTE=levette]You know, chocolate is also one of my weaknesses. I love chocolate candy and will impulsively eat it without a second thought. I never really think about caffeine being in chocolate. Does it mean that we are not supposed to eat it?

You decide. Question is: it good for my body? Is it what God would have me put in my body?
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/49/40053.htm

Though there seems to be some benefits to caffeine according to WebMd, most articles show there are significant downsides.

The other day, I was reading a website re: E.G. White. I ran across something that she was quoted saying that before when a person decides to get right with the the Lord or prior to his 2nd coming, they would get off of meat. What do you'll think about that?

I think light is progressive. As I get closer to God, I notice I don't need "worldly" things as much. I don't have to run out and see the latest movie. Or get the latest R&B cd. I am becoming more content with reading his Word, praying, spending time with my family & friends, or meeting new people. I do believe in the last days the choice between what is wrong and what is right will be abudantly clear.

Please quote the book, chapter, and page where this is stated. If it was a website critical of her work, I wouldn't be surprised if was taken out of context. This happens quite often.

I still struggle with the meat issue. I don't eat the unclean meats, but I love chicken and fish.

I struggled with it too. I grew up SDA. My husband converted in 9 years ago and has been vegetarian ever since. I on the other hand, just gave it up last year. It's not easy but neither is getting proper exercise!:look:

[AJamericanDiva]

http://www.dallascitytemple.org (http://www.dallascitytemple.org/) Don't know why the adress and phone number are not on the web page. This is the only church I have been to in Dallas. Even though it has been several years since I was there, I remember that the service was good.

HTH!

Actually, the address and phone number are on the contact us page.

I was going to say "City Temple". My parents go there and I'm a former member. I'm all late and stuff. It's at 1600 Bonnie View Lane in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas.

[AJamericanDiva]

Heeey! I cannot believe that I saw this thread so late. I too was raised SDA, I havent been to church in years though. I went to an SDA school too. Anyone ever heard of Hanson Place? I went to Hanson Place Church for many years as well.

Can anyone tell me why in all these years are the only two high schools in existence still Greater NY Academy and North Eastern Academy? My daughter is getting ready to graduate from Jackson Heights SDA and it really bothers me that besides sleepaways like Blue Mountain Academy and Pine Forge(sp?) those two high schools are our only options.

Of course I heard of Hanson Place in Brooklyn. As for the schools, your guess is as good as mine!

[AJamericanDiva]

Hey, I'm not SDA but have gone to Kingsboro. I know the head deacon, Troy.

I saw Troy tonight at prayer meeting... my first prayer meeting in a long time. The hubby was like, "Let's go..." It was his first.

[AJamericanDiva]

Newly baptized SDA over here!!

I am interested in discussing with you all your views on caffeine drinks/chocolate. My hubby and I feel that this is more a EGW teaching rather than a Biblical principal. We don't eat pork/shellfish/ or consume alchol, however neither of us feel that tea or coffee is a spiritual hinderance or a sin.

Where do you all stand on this issue and any insight that we may be overlooking is most certainly welcome. :)

Hi, Shinyblackhair!
Welcome to the SDA family! :wave: I remember growing up when we weren't allowed to drink Coke, coffee or any other caffeinated drink for that matter. I do remember however that there was no restriction on chocolate in our household, be it a bar or hot chocolate. I personally don't see anything wrong with it, as long as it is done in moderation. I don't really drink soda anyhow, but I like chocolate and will eat it once in a while. I drink coffee maybe twice a week tops, and even then there is sooo much milk in it that it's more like coffee flavored milk. Caffeine can be considered a drug and when ingested on a regular basis people can have withdrawals when they don't get it. When that happens, then I see it as a problem. Just my two cents.

[AJamericanDiva]

I was born and raised a Seventh Day Adventist. Am now a backslider

Well, at least you're honest! :look: You're in Bklyn, why don't you pay a visit to my church in Park Slope... Kingsboro Temple. It's very lively and I think you'll like it.

[Bklynqueen]

Well, at least you're honest! :look: You're in Bklyn, why don't you pay a visit to my church in Park Slope... Kingsboro Temple. It's very lively and I think you'll like it.


My cousin goes to Kingsborough. :) I'll think about it. Maybe I can get my daughter into Cradle Roll even though she may be too young ( 19 months). :) I like lively churches, I used to go to Emmaus in Flatbush and used to leave in the middle of the sermon, I was that bored. I'll let you know.

[kisz4tj]

My cousin goes to Kingsborough. :) I'll think about it. Maybe I can get my daughter into Cradle Roll even though she may be too young ( 19 months). :) I like lively churches, I used to go to Emmaus in Flatbush and used to leave in the middle of the sermon, I was that bored. I'll let you know.

Your daughter isn't too young for cradle roll. Definitely not, no age is too young. I can attest that they have a great sabbath school for both kids and adults.

[natalied]

Please visit:yep: Kingsboro is a wonderful church. When I first moved to Atlanta and started going to the "supposed" equivalent hype church in Atlanta, I cried. Nothing could replace that Kingsboro void. I guess that's why my DH, friends and family felt the need to start a Mission. We are only 25 deep but we have CHURCH!

Even though Kinsboro is a bigger than average SDA church, it was (I hope it still is) warm, friendly, service-oriented, family-oriented, singles-oriented, young people-oriented, old people-oriented,everybody-oriented, progressive, Bible believing, truth speaking, music-loving church. :grin:

BTW, your daughter isn't too young, I started taking my son to Kinsboro craddle roll before he turned 1!

My cousin goes to Kingsborough. :) I'll think about it. Maybe I can get my daughter into Cradle Roll even though she may be too young ( 19 months). :) I like lively churches, I used to go to Emmaus in Flatbush and used to leave in the middle of the sermon, I was that bored. I'll let you know.

[AJamericanDiva]

My cousin goes to Kingsborough. :) I'll think about it. Maybe I can get my daughter into Cradle Roll even though she may be too young ( 19 months). :) I like lively churches, I used to go to Emmaus in Flatbush and used to leave in the middle of the sermon, I was that bored. I'll let you know.

I don't think they're ever too young for Cradle Roll. I will be taking my 10 month old.

[AJamericanDiva]

Yes, it is! This weekend we had family life weekend. It was awesome. I've rejoined the choir too.

Please visit:yep: Kingsboro is a wonderful church. When I first moved to Atlanta and started going to the "supposed" equivalent hype church in Atlanta, I cried. Nothing could replace that Kingsboro void. I guess that's why my DH, friends and family felt the need to start a Mission. We are only 25 deep but we have CHURCH!

Even though Kinsboro is a bigger than average SDA church, it was (I hope it still is) warm, friendly, service-oriented, family-oriented, singles-oriented, young people-oriented, old people-oriented,everybody-oriented, progressive, Bible believing, truth speaking, music-loving church. :grin:

BTW, your daughter isn't too young, I started taking my son to Kinsboro craddle roll before he turned 1!

[good2uuuu]

Hey ya'll Kingsboro folks! I finally got thear some of theservie this weekend! The sermon was of the hook!I have never heard the story of Hosea and Gomer broken down like that even though I have always know what it represents. I plan to Check out more services in the future.


And Bklynqueen, 19 months is defiantely not to young for cradle roll. Both my babies have been going since 3 or 4 weeks old. They love to hear the songs and the stories and play, and when old enough, they love the crafts. Of course my son loves the snacks.........
Take care ya'll!