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Laela
2009-07-21, 10:39 AM
There are a lot of products out there that go against nature. But this one I find particularly troubling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsnKcNgZW8
Who says??.... GOD SAYS!


This is a very bold statement against God, nature and the laws of physics in one breath.

Am I the only one who feels this way?

Nice & Wavy
2009-07-21, 11:55 AM
There are a lot of products out there that go against nature. But this one I find particularly troubling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsnKcNgZW8
Who says??.... GOD SAYS!


This is a very bold statement against God, nature and the laws of physics in one breath.

Am I the only one who feels this way?I can't look at this at work, but I will later on this evening and then post.

Dee-Licious
2009-07-21, 12:10 PM
i don't think so.

Probably because I am on it and LOVE not having a period every month.


When having a period while on BCP you are not passing an egg, only withdrawal blood.

If you are against Seasonique you're against all birth control pills because they all stop the release of the egg. Have fun being the Duggars.

Shimmie
2009-07-21, 01:46 PM
There are a lot of products out there that go against nature. But this one I find particularly troubling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsnKcNgZW8
Who says??.... GOD SAYS!


This is a very bold statement against God, nature and the laws of physics in one breath.

Am I the only one who feels this way?
No, you're not the 'only' one. It's a very bold statement and it's sad for those who believe it. :nono:

If they 'refuse' to take heed to God, then let them hear what 'Mother Nature' has to say about it.

The number 12 represents the 'cycle' of completion in the aspects of life. The time span of the earth 'revolves' around it each year, which includes all seasons.' For a woman to give life, it takes 9 months to nurture the baby internally and 3 months for her body to completely heal from it.

As much as I hate having a monthly cycle, I'm not going to mess with it. There's a build-up and a back up of menstrual waste which is not being eliminated on the Natural Course of a woman's 12-month cycle.

All this mess is, is a bunch of hyperbole (hype) marketing to the the issue which plagues 'all' women who do not wish to have a period. I've yet to know of a woman who looks forward to her period other than when she's had unprotected sex and is thankful that she's not pregnant. But even then, she'd rather have her period over and done with. All she wants is the 'good news' which is 'no baby' was conceived (.......this time :rolleyes:).

This entire 'market' is playing a dangerous game with women's hormones and it's natural balance. It's an afront to God's design of our bodies which have been fearfully and wonderfully made.

As for those who foolishly shun God, then it's an afront to Mother Nature and as the saying goes,

"It's not nice to fool 'Mother Nature'.... :nono2:

authenticitymanifesting
2009-07-21, 01:50 PM
ITA. The bottom line is it's unnatural to alter the body from monthly cleansing. God did NOT make a mistake by allowing us to have cycles.
Like Bishop Jakes said, God is a rhythmic God and this product disrupts the "rhythm" of the female body.

Shimmie
2009-07-21, 02:05 PM
There are a lot of products out there that go against nature. But this one I find particularly troubling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsnKcNgZW8
Who says??.... GOD SAYS!


This is a very bold statement against God, nature and the laws of physics in one breath.

Am I the only one who feels this way?
Laela, your siggy says it all...

"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding" PROV 4:7

"A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult" PROV 12:16

Lord help me to be prudent and wise in all things

Lemme break it down... :lol:

Wisdom is the principal thing...

In this advertisement and in the product and concept being marketed, Wisdom is definitely not the principal here. :nono:

"..... annoyance at once to an insult ... overlook it.

At it's first indication, I am fully annoyed when my monthly cycle begins :whyme: :cry: But then, I overlook it and allow Nature to take it's course. :yep:

"Lord help me to be prudent and wise in all things..."

This includes the natural course of my female cycle. :rosebud:

The slogan of these marketing folks alone says it all when they state, who cares what God says... :nono: :nono: :nono:.

The Holy Spirit could be speaking to me to save my life and I'm not caring what He says.

daydreem2876
2009-07-21, 04:10 PM
I whole heartedly agree with Shimmie. Women have had their cycles since the beginning of time and who are we to just decide they are so difficult to deal with that we cant have them every month. Whether you are on BC or not, i think messing with your hormones that much and not having a cycle monthly is playing with God.

I look at it like this....
I was listening to a sermon given by one of the ministers at my church. She said that she had the gift to speak in tongues but she decided that she did not want it and asked God to take it away from her. He did and she was not able to speak in tongues again.

If I play with my hormones and act like I do not want them, part of the very reason I am a woman, God may take away ability to have children.

dicapr
2009-07-21, 04:25 PM
There are many women who have issues with their monthly and pills like this are a God send rather than having to have a hysterectomy. A friend of mine was able to avoid having to have surgery because she only had to deal with the issues that came with having a monthl period only 4 times a year. Like was pointed out before, women on the pill are not having a period anyway so whether you have 4 months of break-away bleeding or every month doesn't make a difference.

DDTexlaxed
2009-07-21, 04:39 PM
Remember that each person has their own conscience. What one decides to do, may not be what another decides to do. We are not to judge them. Rom 14:4 says that is God's job to do so. I would not take it because I hate all medication that is not necessary for my life. I also think it is very shameful to see a million medical informercials a day on TV, but that's my opinion.:rolleyes::lachen:

lamaravilla
2009-07-21, 05:19 PM
Does this mean that the regular BC pills are going against God as well? Because even though you still have your menses, you haven't released an egg. What about the IUD, or Depo, or whatever other kinds of BC?

Why can't we look at it as God giving us the ability to make all these wonderful advancements in medicine, and as such take full advantage of that?

glamazon386
2009-07-21, 05:29 PM
No. Seasonique isn't really any different than any other type of BC. You can get the same result by starting another pack of regular bc pills instead of taking the sugar pills during your period week. If you are on BC you are not releasing eggs therefore there is no need for a period. My doctor said it's not a real period. She said it's just a fake period they gave us so women who got all freaked out not getting a period every month while on bc would be more comfortable. You don't have to get it.

Bunny77
2009-07-21, 05:54 PM
There are many women who have issues with their monthly and pills like this are a God send rather than having to have a hysterectomy. A friend of mine was able to avoid having to have surgery because she only had to deal with the issues that came with having a monthl period only 4 times a year. Like was pointed out before, women on the pill are not having a period anyway so whether you have 4 months of break-away bleeding or every month doesn't make a difference.

While I personally don't have issues like this and wouldn't take Seasonique just out of convenience, I'm not going to say that it's wrong or goes too far because BC has helped many women with gynelogical problems that would have suffered severly otherwise.

Fibroids, heavy bleeding, PCOS, etc., are no joke. If Seasonique and BC in general can alleviate the suffering of just one woman, then good for it.

Medical advances can be used both for "good" and for "evil." The medicine itself is neutral -- the purpose is more important to consider.

Duchesse
2009-07-21, 06:58 PM
There are many women who have issues with their monthly and pills like this are a God send rather than having to have a hysterectomy. A friend of mine was able to avoid having to have surgery because she only had to deal with the issues that came with having a monthl period only 4 times a year. Like was pointed out before, women on the pill are not having a period anyway so whether you have 4 months of break-away bleeding or every month doesn't make a difference.

I'm in agreement with Shimmie, but I honestly did not think about the women who do have severe issues with their menstrual cycle. I personally feel like I would be messing with nature by limiting my monthly cycle, but I suppose if I experienced horrible periods, heavy bleeding, cramps, I would think differently. I'm very thankful that I have relatively easy cycles.

I do have issues however with how products like these make what is a natural occurrence out to be such a major inconvenience. I understand the desire to eliminate the chances of pregnancy (IUD), but the ad for Seasonique sounds too much like "in your face Mother Nature..hah!". I wonder what happens to the body after years of not having a monthly.

Laela
2009-07-21, 07:18 PM
:yep:

God said from the beginning to be fruitful and multiply to replenish the Earth. While times have changed and people have advanced..the Word of God will never change.

Having menstrual cycle is a natural part of the reproductive system and is in place to flush the uterus anew each time an egg is released. If the uterus isn't being cleansed with the blood, what is happening with the use of Seasonique. I see one of the "symptoms" is blood clot... that means stagnant blood, not being moved or flushed out.

I'm still reading up on Seasonique. But with this pill, where do the eggs go if they aren't released? Do they disintegrate, like what happens with a woman with a blocked fallopian tube? Even a woman with a blocked tube gets her period each month; her body triggers the cycle because of the presence of an egg, even though it disintegrates.....





If you are against Seasonique you're against all birth control pills because they all stop the release of the egg. Have fun being the Duggars.

Crackers Phinn
2009-07-21, 07:18 PM
I am pro birth control.

However, I'll ride this every 28 day thing out til the wheels fall off.

No thank you Seasonique. :nono:

ETA: I understand for people with problematic cycles, but I'm not on board with using this product for convenience.

glamazon386
2009-07-21, 07:20 PM
:yep:

God said from the beginning to be fruitful and multiply to replenish the Earth. While times have changed and people have advanced..the Word of God will never change.

Having menstrual cycle is a natural part of the reproductive system and is in place to flush the uterus anew each time an egg is released. If the uterus isn't being cleansed with the blood, what is happening with the use of Seasonique. I see one of the "symptoms" is blood clot... that means stagnant blood, not being moved or flushed out.

I'm still reading up on Seasonique. But with this pill, where do the eggs go if they aren't released? Do they disintegrate, like what happens with a woman with a blocked fallopian tube? Even a woman with a blocked tube gets her period each month; her body triggers the cycle because of the presence of an egg, even though it disintegrates.....

ALL BC pills stop the egg from being released. Not just Seasonique. So does the patch, the ring, the shot, etc. They use hormones to stop the egg from coming out. If no egg comes out, then you can't get pregnant. That's how they work. The hormones will also stop the period. But that's why they added withdrawal bleeding so people won't freak out by not getting a period. It's not a real period. It's to my understanding that the egg just stays in the ovary but don't quote me on that part. I was told by the doctor that an egg will not be released. If you are not on bc and one is released doesn't it just get flushed out with the period blood?

BrooklynSouth
2009-07-21, 10:27 PM
I was a participant in the original study in a well known Teaching hospital in NYC for this drug. I had horribly large, multiple fibroids, flooding bleeding, severe pains{at least 5 soaked pads a day for 5-7 days}, clots and horrible monthly cramps but this shrunk them considerably. I was glad not to have to deal with the horror every month but the best advice I can offer is to insist on doing an initial bone density study followed by at least every 6 month's repeat of your bone density-the drug can affect your bones. Myth that blood is blocked up every month..there is no build up without the uterine lining.

Shimmie
2009-07-21, 10:37 PM
We have to be aware of something and this is not opinion.

The use of BC products is always high risk. Now when it's to 'correct' a medical problem that a woman has is only for temporal use. I was given a hormone trial to help regulate my cycle but it was only 'temporary'. Once the situation was corrected, the pill course was over with.

To take something such as this on a regular ongoing basis is not good. :nono: It can and will and does carry serious risks of blood clots, stroke, heart attacks and cancer.

A woman with a 'normal' cycle should weigh these risks against the inconvenience of a monthly cycle.

I'll keep my 'cycle' until it's naturally over and done with, meaning menopause whenever it happens.

Determined22
2009-07-22, 06:25 AM
ALL BC pills stop the egg from being released. Not just Seasonique. So does the patch, the ring, the shot, etc. They use hormones to stop the egg from coming out. If no egg comes out, then you can't get pregnant. That's how they work. The hormones will also stop the period. But that's why they added withdrawal bleeding so people won't freak out by not getting a period. It's not a real period. It's to my understanding that the egg just stays in the ovary but don't quote me on that part. I was told by the doctor that an egg will not be released. If you are not on bc and one is released doesn't it just get flushed out with the period blood?

You beat me to it.

When a woman is on any type of hormonal BC, her body does not build up a lining in her uterus and no egg is released. The bleeding that takes place is really just a reaction to the lower hormone levels. There's no "cleansing" taking place because there is nothing there to be released.

The only way to avoid this is to use a non-hormonal method of birth control or to use nothing at all.

Aviah
2009-07-22, 07:36 AM
I'm not sure where I stand on this, I'm still wondering about what effects the pill has on the body. What stuck with me is:
"Side effect are stroke, bloodclots and heart attack..."
To skip some periods? It's not worth it IMO