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akimat001
2009-01-15, 09:15 AM
My DD is suffering with eczema and its getting worse, derms have not given consistent information on helping to alleviate the itching....I was reading this morning that HIGH FAT SOAP will help....cant find one...any suggestions.....TIA

Nonie
2009-01-15, 10:15 AM
I wonder if oils...I mean soaps...like olive oil soap I used to buy qualify? Oh...oh...oh... My mom used to buy me Oilatum when I was a kid and it was very gentle. Now that I think of it, I wonder if the OIL in it is because it had oil? :scratchch When I first came to the US, I saw Oilatum at Giant so it might be easy to find it in local stores.

Here are links for both soaps:

Oilatum: Buy it here (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=16685&aid=336064&aparam=oilatum&scinit1=oilatum)
http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/16685/200.jpg

Olive Oil Soap: Buy it here (http://www.amazon.com/Savon-Marseille-France-Original-Hand-Made/dp/B000FPWUOO)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kufoBmRcL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

And for moisturizer, please please please use organic coconut oil. Do a search for it and see how it helped someone's baby on this forum. Plus it's safe and healthy for the skin. :yep:

mw138
2009-01-15, 10:58 AM
I wonder if oils like olive oil soap I used to buy qualifies? Oh...oh...oh... My mom used to buy me Oilatum when I was a kid and it was very gentle. Now that I think of it, I wonder if the OIL in it is because it had oil? :scratchch When I first came to the US, I saw Oilatum at Giant so it might be easy to find it in local stores.

Here are links for both soaps:

Oilatum: Buy it here (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=16685&aid=336064&aparam=oilatum&scinit1=oilatum)
http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/16685/200.jpg :yep:

Oilatum's (http://www.stiefel.co.uk/consumer/index.asp) website talks about how the soap does help eczema as well as other skin problems. There is even a link on the site to the National Eczema Society (http://www.eczema.org/abouteczema.html) where you can learn how to better treat and manage eczema.

yodie
2009-01-15, 11:02 AM
Family members and myself have suffered from Eczema for years. Mine is basically under control. We used a medication called Lidex and that helped tremendously. I suggested it to someone else for their child and it cleared up his eczema. If you decide to try it, get the name brand Lidex, not a generic version.

You should aslo try probiotics and vitamins for your daughter. I believe this helps greatly, in addition to watching other foods she eats.

It's been a long journey, but it's definitely controllable.

We always used Dove Soap and my brother (he had it 20 times worse than I did. still battles it) used Aveeno oatmeal on his skin.

Veejee
2009-01-15, 11:52 AM
My DD is suffering with eczema and its getting worse, derms have not given consistent information on helping to alleviate the itching....I was reading this morning that HIGH FAT SOAP will help....cant find one...any suggestions.....TIA

I have eczema, I've had since I was a kid, it is a nuisance but it is manageable. I inherited my skin issues from my dad, what can I say...lol. :rolleyes: I know this is going to sound strange but Desinex is great with relieving itching. Since it is opaque, try applying the Desinex and then wrapping her skin with a light cloth (so you don't ruin your sheets and furniture). The active ingredient in Desinex is Zinc. Zinc calms inflammation; I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

Also, you may need to get your DD allergy tested to see if there is an underlying trigger. I am allergic to molds, dogs, and horse dander and I currently take allergy shots to help alleviate the symptoms.

Don't use soap if at all possible unless it's very, very mild. I use cetaphil to wash my face and dove to bathe with. Cerave (CVS or Walgreens) is a great moisturizer to apply while her skin is damp, I mix mine with a little olive oil which makes it work even better.

Cerave is great because it helps with damaged skin cell barriers. People with eczema, like myself, have damaged barriers that don't retain moisture as well as normal skin and lets irritants in. Regular lotions don't work as well as those with ceramides, cholesterols, and hyaulauronic acid (these occur naturally in the skin) for people with atopic dermatitis/eczema.

If at all possible keep her away from corticorsteriods. They work but they will ruin her skin long term. If her face breaks out NEVER put those on her face use hydrocortisone only. :yep: If you have any questions ask away and I'll see if I can help. :grin:

Veejee
2009-01-15, 11:57 AM
Family members and myself have suffered from Eczema for years. Mine is basically under control. We used a medication called Lidex and that helped tremendously. I suggested it to someone else for their child and it cleared up his eczema. If you decide to try it, get the name brand Lidex, not a generic version.

You should aslo try probiotics and vitamins for your daughter. I believe this helps greatly, in addition to watching other foods she eats.

It's been a long journey, but it's definitely controllable.

We always used Dove Soap and my brother (he had it 20 times worse than I did. still battles it) used Aveeno oatmeal on his skin.

Lidex (fluocinonide) does work but that is a VERY VERY strong corticorsteriod. I had to switch to that after my triamcinolone stopped working. :yep:

I hope she doesn't have to use steriod creams on DD. When I have children I pray they don't get my eczema issues.:nono:

My sister has it also but mine is like your brothers, 20 times worse. The weird thing is my face doesn't break out anymore (it did when I was a kid). To see the skin on my face and arms you would never know I had eczema.

Nonie
2009-01-15, 12:06 PM
I agree on steroid creams (-cortisones) not being good. As someone who's had not just eczema but also fungal rashes, I know that while they work, they make you so dependent on them and more dependent on them. The more you use them, the more you need them. So if you can find natural remedies, by all means do.

Crazy as this may sound, my eczema disappeared for good when I changed my eating to deal with systemic candidiasis that brought on a rash that I mistook for eczema but which did not respond to my usual eczema remedies. My diet consisted of eliminating dairy, gluten, sugar (except naturally found in fruit), foods with additives, fermented foods, yeast...to mention a few...and while my aim was to treat the fungal rash, my eczema also got cured (This was 15 years ago and it never returned; not even when I started to eat those foods again.).

That diet can boost your immunity and help cure ailments most would never expect to be cured without medicine is discussed on this website: www.betterhealthusa.com

The following article addresses skin disorders: http://www.betterhealthusa.com/public/256.cfm

Immunolabs can do tests do determine foods that you need to eliminate.

akimat001
2009-01-15, 02:28 PM
Ladies this is so great! My sunshine has been tested and is allergic to a number of things....we have seen countless doctors and one gave use a great oil that has peanut oil in it...da** she is allergic to peanut oil....this board and you ladies offer such a treasure trove of information and I thank the heavens above for finding it and placing people with genuine concern here. Thanks again and be blessed!!!

yodie
2009-01-15, 02:39 PM
Ladies this is so great! My sunshine has been tested and is allergic to a number of things....we have seen countless doctors and one gave use a great oil that has peanut oil in it...da** she is allergic to peanut oil....this board and you ladies offer such a treasure trove of information and I thank the heavens above for finding it and placing people with genuine concern here. Thanks again and be blessed!!!

Praise God. I'm glad you have some answers and better understanding of what's going on with your daughter.

Yay!!

Dayjoy
2009-01-15, 07:20 PM
My 6-year-old DD suffers from eczema and my nine-year-old DS grew out of his after age two. She is on her second bottle of the new Eucerine Calming Body Wash and I have noticed marked improvement since we started using it. It comes in a golden bottle.

akimat001
2009-01-16, 09:11 AM
Last night, I did some research on NEEM OILS....I am going by the health food store and talk with my favorite ladies and see what she recommends. I will keep you all posted.

AtlantaJJ
2009-01-16, 09:16 AM
Oilatum's (http://www.stiefel.co.uk/consumer/index.asp) website talks about how the soap does help eczema as well as other skin problems. There is even a link on the site to the National Eczema Society (http://www.eczema.org/abouteczema.html) where you can learn how to better treat and manage eczema.
I need to check this out, since I started taking Flax Seed and Fish oils every day, I have improved 90%. The only place that I still get a little flare up is around my cuticles. That's even MUCH better considering it's winter time. They would usually be bleeding by now.

AtlantaJJ
2009-01-16, 09:17 AM
Last night, I did some research on NEEM OILS....I am going by the health food store and talk with my favorite ladies and see what she recommends. I will keep you all posted.
Neem is great, I have neem cream!

lina
2009-01-16, 11:55 AM
It is essential to find the right prescription cream(s). Also, keeping the skin clean and very moisturized.

Rockette
2009-01-16, 09:13 PM
My DD has Eczema, started about 2 years ago when she was 3, where she gets extreme itchy lower legs that seem to flare up after she has had her bath or just as she is about to go to bed. It doesn't seem to flare up too much during other times. I feel so bad because she scratches her legs so much that they are all marked up and sometimes with dry rashes too. She cries about it and says she can't help it but to scratch. This itching is only on her legs and no where else on her body. We took her to get allergy tested and blood work and they said all her levels were fine. I don't know what to do right now. :sad:

I researched on the internet and apparently a lot of people have this lower leg extreme itching condition and they all said the same thing, the doctors can't pin point exactly what causes it and nor is there a permanent cure for it but rather temporary relieve. I am going to take her to another doctor but I am sadden that there is no solid cure for it. Tonight her legs were itching again and I applied some food grade Hydrogen peroxide mixed with tea tree oil and water. Then I applied aloe vera gel and vitamin e oil. She was still scratching her legs afterwards about 10 minutes afterwards but it has now stopped. I have neem oil and have tried that as well. I am going to monitor it closely to see which treatment method gives her the most relieve. My poor baby :cry: She get's this from her father.

HoneyDew
2009-01-16, 09:38 PM
It is essential to find the right prescription cream(s). Also, keeping the skin clean and very moisturized.

I disagree with the bolded. Many of the prescription creams have bad side effects and are known carcinogenics.

It is not worth it. I think it is better to use other ways to cope, like working from the inside out (so so important), not using products that cause flare ups, and yes keeping skin highly moisturized.

Nonie
2009-01-16, 09:49 PM
My DS has Eczema, started about 2 years ago, where she gets extreme itchy lower legs that seem to flare up after she has had her bath or just as she is about to go to bed. It doesn't seem to flare up too much during other times. I feel so bad because she scratches her legs so much that they are all marked up and sometimes with dry rashes too. She cries about it and says she can't help it but to scratch. This itching is only on her legs and no where else on her body. We took her to get allergy tested and blood work and they said all her levels were fine. I don't know what to do right now. :sad:

I researched on the internet and apparently a lot of people have this lower leg extreme itching condition and they all said the same thing, the doctors can't pin point exactly what causes it and nor is there a permanent cure for it but rather temporary relieve. I am going to take her to another doctor but I am sadden that there is no solid cure for it. Tonight her legs were itching again and I applied some food grade Hydrogen peroxide mixed with tea tree oil and water. Then I applied aloe vera gel and vitamin e oil. She was still scratching her legs afterwards about 10 minutes afterwards but it has now stopped. I have neem oil and have tried that as well. I am going to monitor it closely to see which treatment method gives her the most relieve. My poor baby :cry: She get's this from her father.

Take her for an Immunolabs test. www.immunolabs.com Call them and find out which doctors in your area are members. This is not the usual allergy test but a food sensitivity test. They test your blood against about 200 foods (blood that the member doctor draws and sends to them) and then in two weeks, you are told what foods might be disagreeing with your body. While no one knows what causes eczema, I know that a change in my diet cured mine. This website www.betterhealthusa.com lists ailments that can be helped by eating right. You probably already know how a dairy-free, gluten-free diet has helped autistic kids. So it's worth a shot.

The Immunolabs test will only cost you your copay if your insurance is accepted and the guide you get and direction on what to eat, the food plans, info on hidden "bad" ingredients to look for is priceless. I know United Health Care isn't accepted (<--my current insurance :sad:), but Blue Cross Blue Shield is. :yep: While my eczema got cures as a "side effect" of fighting yeast in my body, my diet was the only thing I was doing differently when suddenly eczema was no more. I didn't get the direction to fight Candida from Immunolabs because I didn't know them then. But it's interesting to see how the directions I was following back then are similar to those given to my friend who has yeast issues. And she's doing so much better eating the Immunolabs way. I too had a sense of well-being was I was eating food that was recommended and avoiding that which I showed to be sensitive.

tickledpinkies09
2009-01-17, 12:37 AM
I might send a PM because if I start talking about prescription creams id be here all day.

When it comes to the external try creams on a case by case basis. I had head to toe eczema 10 years or so and no precription or over the counter creams worked to help.

I did go to a specialist and he made me wear bandages for a few months with steroid and a parrafin whilst I was taking antihistamines for the itching.
I no longer used steroids or parrafin based creams but they did work to get rid of the active eczema and clear my skin.

However the thing with petroleum and parrafin is they often produce allergic reactions in people with eczema so can worsen the itching, especially ointments. Thats why I say you should try these different suggestions and ask DD if her skin feels drier or uncomfortable at all.

As an adult I am cautious to look at the ingredients as the majority of medicated and non medicated include irritants and things that just coat the skin and possibly clog it.

Lush Dream cream is very good as it contains all natural ingredients and does soothe eczema with regular use. I did try this initially and slept on it but then I mixed it with another cream with a natural benificial ingredient (Kigella Africana) and applied little and often which is helping my skin enormously. Also I know this is a little gross but: eczema causes that thickening of the skin and Lush contains oats which caused me to shed skin every week (after a scrub) because oats cause skin scales to loosen.

That is generally the best to do especially with little ones, once you find some thing that doesnt worsen the itch cycle, sinks in without leaving dryness or oiliness and apply moderate amounts through the day that should help a lot.

You didn't mention how old she is but antihistamines can help the skin by giving it a chance to heal:).

Other advice on here about diet is important.