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metamorfhosis
05-26-2011, 12:25 AM
Oprah seemed to have been really believing in Eckert Tolle's The New Earth a couple of years ago. Tolle said that there was no GOD but rather consciousness. Many prayers went out to Oprah and I can imagine that there were pastors who tried to help her.

Lately, Oprah has been quoting the Bible and mentioning GOD and JESUS. I was so happy to hear that her last sentence on her final show was,


"To GOD be the Glory!"

Amen!

NinasLongAmbition
05-26-2011, 01:35 AM
I WAS HAPPY SHE SAID THAT! We need to keep praying for her, I believe she believes but has alot of extra-ness around her.

Kurlee
05-26-2011, 01:42 AM
ugly cry :cry:

makeupgirl
05-26-2011, 06:00 PM
Anyone can say scriptures, praise God, and say "to God be the glory". The scary part is so can Satan and his kids.

Lets pray that she comes to a saving knowledge of knowing Christ before it's too late.

Shimmie
05-26-2011, 06:27 PM
Anyone can say scriptures, praise God, and say "to God be the glory". The scary part is so can Satan and his kids.

Lets pray that she comes to a saving knowledge of knowing Christ before it's too late.

makeupgirl

Thank you.

Oprah has been 'misleading' with her faith all along. I not saying this judgmentally nor with contention neither am I condemning her. It's just that, out of one side of her beliefs, she says 'Glory to God', yet she promotes, encourages, PROTECTS, professes, the very opposite of what God's truth is.

This is horribly misleading to those who 'speak' Jesus, say they are Christians, and yet they have not nor do they intend to make the changes in their lives and beliefs which God has called us to, as His followers.

Oprah strenuously supports gay marriage, the gay lifestyle, the laws of attraction, she's still shacking up with her boyfriend. She aggressively challenges anyone who opposes her false beliefs, and will not 'hear' nor accept God's Word which speaks the truth on it. She has strongly used her show and other venues as her platform to support her beliefs contrary to God's Word.

I give her credit for giving God glory for indeed were it not for His grace where would she be as with any of us, where would any of us be were it not for the grace of God. God's grace was and is upon her, in spite of the fact that satan has used her more to his glory than God's.

Too many people fall for 'Spotlight' Hosannahs and Halleluiahs. Number the preachers who shout God, Bless God, Glory to God all day long and yet under their platforms sin abounds.

Oprah is a tool of misleading what God's Word is. Her gospel is Burger King, redefine God's order and have it your way.

I'm watching people in the spotlight more than ever before. I'm watching and praying, for God says to believe not every spirit, to test the spirits and see if they be of God. I'm seeing too many spotlighters so called praising God with one face and suddenly with another face, change the Truth of God into 'their' truth; becoming accepting and justifying lifestyles which God has clearly said we are not to be a part of.

Right here in this forum, I've never in my life seen so many behaviours which are suddenly now okay........ :huh:

Well since when and exactly when did God ever say He changed His Word?

I've had my fill of this mess and I refuse to sit back and float with it or go with the flow. No matter where I am, when I see it, I'm calling it out with God's Word to back it up and I dare anyone to challenge me, or better yet, what saith the Lord.

Guitarhero
05-26-2011, 06:42 PM
People have free choice on what they follow. I don't expect everyone around me to become a catholic so I respect their beliefs. Whatever the case, I'm sure G-d has got it covered.

Nice & Wavy
05-26-2011, 06:49 PM
Anyone can say scriptures, praise God, and say "to God be the glory". The scary part is so can Satan and his kids.

Lets pray that she comes to a saving knowledge of knowing Christ before it's too late.I have to agree with you. There was something in her words that did not sit right with my spirit, no my dh's spirit. We prayed for her once the show went off.

Shimmie
05-26-2011, 07:23 PM
People have free choice on what they follow. I don't expect everyone around me to become a catholic so I respect their beliefs. Whatever the case, I'm sure G-d has got it covered.

Please don't defend 'wrong' with that old 'free choice' garbage. It's not only old, but it's taking too many people to hell where there is no return. When it comes to God's Word, we as Christians are to be circumspect. We are to honour God's word uncompromisingly.

Yeah, Oprah may have free choice, but she is by choice leading people to hell. There is no middle ground here. You either serve God or you don't.

There's too much foolishness and compromise going on and most of all deception. I WILL NOT DEFEND COMPROMISE ! I will NOT befriend the lies of free will for it is the will of man which is deceiving him/her into hell everyday. Read what happen to those who fell into the earth when it opened up and swallowed those with 'free choice'.

God Word says clearly 'CHOOSE' you this day, whom you will serve....

Free choice means one thing today, 'rebellion' against God's order.

Keep on floating on it and those who do will see that's it's not worth it.

Renewed1
05-26-2011, 07:37 PM
I felt the same way.


I have to agree with you. There was something in her words that did not sit right with my spirit, no my dh's spirit. We prayed for her once the show went off.

Health&hair28
05-26-2011, 08:12 PM
Anyone can say scriptures, praise God, and say "to God be the glory". The scary part is so can Satan and his kids.

Lets pray that she comes to a saving knowledge of knowing Christ before it's too late.

Agree we have to test the spirit. I'm not picking on Oprah but we must remember to go by God's word and His Spirit.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 john 1:4

"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness." 2 Cor 11:14-15

Be careful though and know that the devil and his agents acknowledge the historical incarnation but do not confess Jesus as Lord.

Test the lives of those pretending to be sent by God:

Are there inconsistencies in their lives?
Are their lives in agreement with God's Word?
Are they receiving glory for what they do, or is God receiving glory?
Are they relying on God only for direction or are they basing their teachings on writings from men?
Are they or their followers putting their word above the Bible?
Have any of their prophecies never come true? (Remember the devil is a liar and will mix truth with lies. If any of their prophecies has never been fulfilled, unless it is predicted for the future, even though they gave some prophecies that were fulfilled, they are not from God!)

These inconsistencies can reveal to you if they are from God or not.

Remember only God's Holy Spirit will lead you the truth. The devil will only lead you to a mixture of truths and lies.

The Spirit of God always speaks in accordance to God's Word, the Bible. He acknowledges its authority. Anyone putting anything above the Bible or anyone degrading the Bible, is not from God!

Detroit2Dallas
05-26-2011, 09:08 PM
I refuse to watch Oprah I dont make it my business to watch demons perform and speak through people, that may be harsh but it is what I believe and must say that I have been disgusted at the worshipping people do of her. Oprah practices witch craft, new age, meditation and whatever else she desires to do and she leds thousands if not millions of lost, itching earred people astray with HER truth. She has said many times that Jesus is not the only way, denying Christ with her crazy looking self. Oprah is very skillful in her agenda and anyone she aligns herself up with I am wary of. She was one of the biggest advocates for Obama, trust and believe that those people have kindred spirits. She has gained the whole world, she loves herself and her money more then anything else in this world Anywho, thats my 2 cents

Laela
05-26-2011, 09:48 PM
It is known that Oprah grew up in church... it was where she first used her God-given talent of speech and first spoke in public. Perhaps she's grateful to God for her talent.

I didn't watch the show... I stopped watching Oprah when I saw her say there is more than one way to God. That means she believes God exists but she clearly refutes two of the most important Scriptures in the Bible: John 3:16 and John 14:6, when Jesus said NO MAN comes to the Father but through him.

Her influence can easily lead many astray away from the Truth, because she's espousing all kinds of "truths" to people who are seeking help/answers. Let's just praying keep that those public figures who influence our children, that they will come into the knowledge of Christ while there is still time. There is always Hope for anyone in this world....

makeupgirl
05-27-2011, 09:30 AM
@makeupgirl (http://www.longhaircareforum.com/member.php?u=160632)

Thank you.

Oprah has been 'misleading' with her faith all along. I not saying this judgmentally nor with contention neither am I condemning her. It's just that, out of one side of her beliefs, she says 'Glory to God', yet she promotes, encourages, PROTECTS, professes, the very opposite of what God's truth is.

This is horribly misleading to those who 'speak' Jesus, say they are Christians, and yet they have not nor do they intend to make the changes in their lives and beliefs which God has called us to, as His followers.

Oprah strenuously supports gay marriage, the gay lifestyle, the laws of attraction, she's still shacking up with her boyfriend. She aggressively challenges anyone who opposes her false beliefs, and will not 'hear' nor accept God's Word which speaks the truth on it. She has strongly used her show and other venues as her platform to support her beliefs contrary to God's Word.

I give her credit for giving God glory for indeed were it not for His grace where would she be as with any of us, where would any of us be were it not for the grace of God. God's grace was and is upon her, in spite of the fact that satan has used her more to his glory than God's.

Too many people fall for 'Spotlight' Hosannahs and Halleluiahs. Number the preachers who shout God, Bless God, Glory to God all day long and yet under their platforms sin abounds.

Oprah is a tool of misleading what God's Word is. Her gospel is Burger King, redefine God's order and have it your way.

I'm watching people in the spotlight more than ever before. I'm watching and praying, for God says to believe not every spirit, to test the spirits and see if they be of God. I'm seeing too many spotlighters so called praising God with one face and suddenly with another face, change the Truth of God into 'their' truth; becoming accepting and justifying lifestyles which God has clearly said we are not to be a part of.

Right here in this forum, I've never in my life seen so many behaviours which are suddenly now okay........ :huh:

Well since when and exactly when did God ever say He changed His Word?

I've had my fill of this mess and I refuse to sit back and float with it or go with the flow. No matter where I am, when I see it, I'm calling it out with God's Word to back it up and I dare anyone to challenge me, or better yet, what saith the Lord.

Thanks Ms. Shimmie. It's odd that we're coming to a season where good is evil and evil is good. It's weird, scary, and it makes me wonder what else is next. Which lets me believe that the time to go home to be with the Lord is coming sooner.

Agree we have to test the spirit. I'm not picking on Oprah but we must remember to go by God's word and His Spirit.

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1 john 1:4

"And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness." 2 Cor 11:14-15

Be careful though and know that the devil and his agents acknowledge the historical incarnation but do not confess Jesus as Lord.

Test the lives of those pretending to be sent by God:

Are there inconsistencies in their lives?
Are their lives in agreement with God's Word?
Are they receiving glory for what they do, or is God receiving glory?
Are they relying on God only for direction or are they basing their teachings on writings from men?
Are they or their followers putting their word above the Bible?
Have any of their prophecies never come true? (Remember the devil is a liar and will mix truth with lies. If any of their prophecies has never been fulfilled, unless it is predicted for the future, even though they gave some prophecies that were fulfilled, they are not from God!)

These inconsistencies can reveal to you if they are from God or not.

Remember only God's Holy Spirit will lead you the truth. The devil will only lead you to a mixture of truths and lies.

The Spirit of God always speaks in accordance to God's Word, the Bible. He acknowledges its authority. Anyone putting anything above the Bible or anyone degrading the Bible, is not from God!

Right on sister. Another test that is given in 1 John 4:1 is to ask if they believe that Jesus came in the flesh. A lot of people/false prophets/false christians don't believe that Jesus became flesh.

I refuse to watch Oprah I dont make it my business to watch demons perform and speak through people, that may be harsh but it is what I believe and must say that I have been disgusted at the worshipping people do of her. Oprah practices witch craft, new age, meditation and whatever else she desires to do and she leds thousands if not millions of lost, itching earred people astray with HER truth. She has said many times that Jesus is not the only way, denying Christ with her crazy looking self. Oprah is very skillful in her agenda and anyone she aligns herself up with I am wary of. She was one of the biggest advocates for Obama, trust and believe that those people have kindred spirits. She has gained the whole world, she loves herself and her money more then anything else in this world Anywho, thats my 2 cents

It is known that Oprah grew up in church... it was where she first used her God-given talent of speech and first spoke in public. Perhaps she's grateful to God for her talent.

I didn't watch the show... I stopped watching Oprah when I saw her say there is more than one way to God. That means she believes God exists but she clearly refutes two of the most important Scriptures in the Bible: John 3:16 and John 14:6, when Jesus said NO MAN comes to the Father but through him.

Her influence can easily lead many astray away from the Truth, because she's espousing all kinds of "truths" to people who are seeking help/answers. Let's just praying keep that those public figures who influence our children, that they will come into the knowledge of Christ while there is still time. There is always Hope for anyone in this world....


What you guys said is exactly why I stopped watching Oprah. I've never really understood the hype growing up but the day she responded that there was more than one way to heaven and her response to the lady in the audience "What about him" when the lady ask, "What about Jesus" that turned me completely off.

I guess we didn't drink the kool-aid. Let's count that a joy but still keep her in prayer.

Guitarhero
05-27-2011, 12:16 PM
Please don't defend 'wrong' with that old 'free choice' garbage. It's not only old, but it's taking too many people to hell where there is no return. When it comes to God's Word, we as Christians are to be circumspect. We are to honour God's word uncompromisingly.

Yeah, Oprah may have free choice, but she is by choice leading people to hell. There is no middle ground here. You either serve God or you don't.

There's too much foolishness and compromise going on and most of all deception. I WILL NOT DEFEND COMPROMISE ! I will NOT befriend the lies of free will for it is the will of man which is deceiving him/her into hell everyday. Read what happen to those who fell into the earth when it opened up and swallowed those with 'free choice'.

God Word says clearly 'CHOOSE' you this day, whom you will serve....

Free choice means one thing today, 'rebellion' against God's order.

Keep on floating on it and those who do will see that's it's not worth it.


Which church or christian programming was Oprah presiding over to have mislead the christian faithful? Did she ever write a christian book on ethics? As far as I know, she was raised a methodist...as in, attending a methodist church. That's my point. She's not the shepherd of any flock. That would be another type of abuse that I would not stand for. However, she's an individual person and whichever are her beliefs, they're her beliefs. She's not the first nor last new age believer. To the bolded, would we take this same attitude towards our, say, boss, banker, whomever? What gives us the right to judge her and not another? I'm not necessarily trying to be up in Oprah's business and I truly do not see how her private or public life is of any concern to me or mine. I don't follow her advice unless it's common sense that I've already come to. What's the extra deal about her? Hell takes no one, people willfully enter it. The bible asks us to choose individually, not to choose for another.

Health&hair28
05-27-2011, 01:08 PM
Right on sister. Another test that is given in 1 John 4:1 is to ask if they believe that Jesus came in the flesh. A lot of people/false prophets/false christians don't believe that Jesus became flesh.



Yes, 1 John 4:1 is a good test as well.

Glad you brought that out. This made me think of how in the book of Acts (Acts 16) a woman in divination walking behind Paul and his associates saying " These are men of the most high God." Paul was grieved in his Spirit and called the evil spirit out of her. That woman was heavily in witchcraft and made a lot of money for her owners. That demon in her was trying to pretend that she was in agreement with Christ but it was a scheme from hell. What agreement has Christ with Belial?

We have to know the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Truth from the Spirit of Error.

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Matthew 24:3.4

The falling away in 2 Thess is happening NOW!!
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 1 Tim 4:1-3

Shimmie
05-27-2011, 07:36 PM
Which church or christian programming was Oprah presiding over to have mislead the christian faithful? Did she ever write a christian book on ethics?

As far as I know, she was raised a methodist...as in, attending a methodist church. That's my point. She's not the shepherd of any flock. That would be another type of abuse that I would not stand for. However, she's an individual person and whichever are her beliefs, they're her beliefs. She's not the first nor last new age believer.

To the bolded, would we take this same attitude towards our, say, boss, banker, whomever? What gives us the right to judge her and not another? I'm not necessarily trying to be up in Oprah's business and I truly do not see how her private or public life is of any concern to me or mine.

I don't follow her advice unless it's common sense that I've already come to. What's the extra deal about her? Hell takes no one, people willfully enter it. The bible asks us to choose individually, not to choose for another.

Oprah doesn't have to have a Church in the sense of which you are referring to. She does indeed, however, have one of the biggest followings than any shiow host known to this country and perhaps worldwide. She now OWN's her own TV station. All of which is her platform for her millions of followers who see her as their gospel.

Let's be real, just because you don't follow her, doesn't exclude the millions of others that do. Oprah is no different than any other 'leader' who have people who cling to their every word and philosophy.

Guitar, I'm not contending with you, nor am I trying to disrespect you.

This issue is not something to overlook or to pass off as mynute; people are being influenced by a spirit that is not of God. I am not referring to different denominations, there is a major difference going on here. Folks are being deceived into falsehoods of God's order. Exposing it is even more critical
than ever for the souls of those who have been and are being deceived.

Peace and Blessings...

Guitarhero
05-27-2011, 07:48 PM
Oprah doesn't have to have a Church in the sense of which you are referring to. She does indeed, however, have one of the biggest followings than any shiow host known to this country and perhaps worldwide. She now OWN's her own TV station. All of which is her platform for her millions of followers who see her as their gospel.

Let's be real, just because you don't follow her, doesn't exclude the millions of others that do. Oprah is no different than any other 'leader' who have people who cling to their every word and philosophy.

Guitar, I'm not contending with you, nor am I trying to disrespect you.

This issue is not something to overlook or to pass off as mynute; people are being influenced by a spirit that is not of God. I am not referring to different denominations, there is a major difference going on here. Folks are being deceived into falsehoods of God's order. Exposing it is even more critical
than ever for the souls of those who have been and are being deceived.

Peace and Blessings...



Like Sarah Palin et al? I know you're not disrespecting...but I am trying to figure out why she deserves such attention from christians for her philosophy in life when there are others out there who are going to do true damage in terms of spiritual, physical and economic. Shrugs. Is it because people feel Oprah belongs to them as a Black American and that all AA's should be christians? That might be one reason she's other. Or is it because she might be influencing Black people to cease following the faith of their youth? There are so many people out there with all sorts of voices. Or is this not a Black thing, just a big voice thing...like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck (although, he's conveniently and recently turned slightly toward Obama...:rolleyes:).

anartist4u2001
05-27-2011, 11:31 PM
@makeupgirl (http://www.longhaircareforum.com/member.php?u=160632)

Thank you.

Oprah has been 'misleading' with her faith all along. I not saying this judgmentally nor with contention neither am I condemning her. It's just that, out of one side of her beliefs, she says 'Glory to God', yet she promotes, encourages, PROTECTS, professes, the very opposite of what God's truth is.

This is horribly misleading to those who 'speak' Jesus, say they are Christians, and yet they have not nor do they intend to make the changes in their lives and beliefs which God has called us to, as His followers.

Oprah strenuously supports gay marriage, the gay lifestyle, the laws of attraction, she's still shacking up with her boyfriend. She aggressively challenges anyone who opposes her false beliefs, and will not 'hear' nor accept God's Word which speaks the truth on it. She has strongly used her show and other venues as her platform to support her beliefs contrary to God's Word.

I give her credit for giving God glory for indeed were it not for His grace where would she be as with any of us, where would any of us be were it not for the grace of God. God's grace was and is upon her, in spite of the fact that satan has used her more to his glory than God's.

Too many people fall for 'Spotlight' Hosannahs and Halleluiahs. Number the preachers who shout God, Bless God, Glory to God all day long and yet under their platforms sin abounds.

Oprah is a tool of misleading what God's Word is. Her gospel is Burger King, redefine God's order and have it your way.

I'm watching people in the spotlight more than ever before. I'm watching and praying, for God says to believe not every spirit, to test the spirits and see if they be of God. I'm seeing too many spotlighters so called praising God with one face and suddenly with another face, change the Truth of God into 'their' truth; becoming accepting and justifying lifestyles which God has clearly said we are not to be a part of.

Right here in this forum, I've never in my life seen so many behaviours which are suddenly now okay........ :huh:

Well since when and exactly when did God ever say He changed His Word?

I've had my fill of this mess and I refuse to sit back and float with it or go with the flow. No matter where I am, when I see it, I'm calling it out with God's Word to back it up and I dare anyone to challenge me, or better yet, what saith the Lord.


i totally agree. i use to be afraid to speak out on what i believe, but now i am slowly changing that. i'm stepping out of that fear.

makeupgirl
05-28-2011, 08:39 AM
i totally agree. i use to be afraid to speak out on what i believe, but now i am slowly changing that. i'm stepping out of that fear.

me too!!!! In a tactful manner, I'm learning to be more assertive and to not be afraid to speak out on what I believe.

Shimmie
05-28-2011, 07:05 PM
i totally agree. i use to be afraid to speak out on what i believe, but now i am slowly changing that. i'm stepping out of that fear.

me too!!!! In a tactful manner, I'm learning to be more assertive and to not be afraid to speak out on what I believe.

The two of you are just sweethearts. You have so much love in your hearts for people. It shows, even in your posts so clearly. :grouphug2: You are being used of God in a loving and mighty way. Please don't ever give up. No matter what the enemy throws at you, do not give up. For you have the shield of faith to block all of the firey darts of the enemy from harming you. The weapons thrown at you have a boomerang effect.... they miss.... you. :yep: And head back towards the enemy who threw it at you. :duck:

May I share what I've learned in my life and walk as a Christian?

The enemy wants nothing more than for Christians to be quiet and fearful of taking a stand for God's order.

It still amazes me how the 'world' will boldly take a stand for their junk and garbage and proudly honour their god, satan. YET 'they' call Christians wrong for standing upon God's Word.

One issue which really opened my eyes was the recent uproar by gays against Chick Fila. How is it that gays have the ordacity to even speak against Chick Fila for supporting a cause they believe in, 'pure marriage' between a man and a woman? Are gays and gay business owners and corporate execs, etc., not also supporting THEIR causes? Are they supporting Christian causes?

NO! Neither do they have any intention to do so.

So what makes them think they can enforce a well established Christian business to support their mess; they have more than enough supporters to support their confusion.

WHAT is my point here?

That is the wrong of this world is speaking out to support their cause, than how much more that 'we' as the TRUE followers of God have the right to speak up and not back down. I speak not with contention, nor with intent to hurt someone or to turn their hearts away from God. Simply with boldness, steadfast upon what thus saith the Lord, Jesus Christ.... not man.