Oprah's Last Show

[Shimmie]

I Respectfully need to add here that:
As a Christian, I think that we are forgetting the most important commandment of all: TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER "love your neighbour as yourself"..Mark 12:28
No matter how well versed in the Word we are, God understood that kind words and loving gestures even in the face of disagreement speak louder, reaches wider, goes further, and makes serving Christ more attractive than any threats, overuse of King James dialect, scripture quotes, or insincere usage of names of endearment. Our jobs are to draw people to Christ and be the Salt of the earth. We must ask, if our discussions fulfil our ultimate purpose which is to bring souls to the Father. We must be mindful if our methods are just defending the word at the cost of turning people away. I believe an air of humility and love is in order not just for those who agree with us, but to all.

This is our duty, our walk. The judgemental nature of some Christians is what turns people off and make them not want anything to do with our God. Let he who is without sin throw the first stone... John 8:7 (please remember this in all all ways)

:bighug:

Brace yourself... Because I am just getting started.

What right did 'said poster' have to come into this Christian forum with profanity? That was not only unnecessary, but totally inappropriate and disrespectful. She knew exactly what she was doing and why she chose to do so. People DO have to be careful and need to know that this is not a game.

You can talk Christian Love all day long, howerver, there are different levels of love and there will always be some people who need 'tough love'. Otherwise they will never learn.

Now if you personally wish to put up with that foolishness, then do so. Cradle the devil and his foolishness like a baby, feed it, burp it and I can guarantee that he will mess all over you.

I am not here to impress anyone nor to prove how much I love someone; those who know me, know that I love them and will fight for them and not against them.

If nothing more, everyone who knows me here, are always fully aware of what I'm thinking; I don't bite my tongue or kiss up to foolishness. I appease no one.

One last thing. Please stop pretending that your reaction to the unfavorable behaviour of others is always, tender, loving, gentle and sweet. If you want everyone to believe that you embrace and tenderly admonish everyone who uses offensive language or behaviour in your presence or towards your loved ones, who are you kidding?

If you've never been offended or put off by someone, or if you've never told someone what you think regarding what they said or did...

Bottomline... your posted reply to me says it all.

Angel, your post isn't about Christianity.

It's more about you simply did not like what I said. And that's okay. :yep: I'm just putting the truth out there. You tried to camophlage your feelings with the 'Christian's behave in Love' cover, but that's not what it's about. You simply do not like what I said to the poster who used profanity in this forum.

And again, it's okay. I'm not upset. I have been here too long to not recognize when someone takes offense at what I say. That's just life.


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ETA - June 10, 2011:

My daughter 'read' the words to this post I quoted and her first response was...

"You being stalked"... ? How long have they been watching you and holding this in. They mentioned too much about your endearments, etc.... :lol:

I told her it was all good and I meant it. :grouphug2:

[Shimmie]

PBS is temporary...subject to change!

Really? What did I miss.


BTW: Your siggy is so BEAUTIFUL !!!

I have another Keratese email special to send you. :yep:

[Nice & Wavy]

Really? What did I miss.


BTW: Your siggy is so BEAUTIFUL !!!

I have another Keratese email special to send you. :yep:I'm speaking prophetically! The Lord showed me something as I was reading the post about what they are doing.

Thank you...it's an older picture because I'm on a 'no show' for a year!

You sent me an email about Kerastase? I don't remember it...but, I will look out for the email you are sending now. Thanks for thinking of me!

[Shimmie]

I'm speaking prophetically! The Lord showed me something as I was reading the post about what they are doing.

Thank you...it's an older picture because I'm on a 'no show' for a year!

You sent me an email about Kerastase? I don't remember it...but, I will look out for the email you are sending now. Thanks for thinking of me!

It's gorgeous anyway.

Kerastase has travel sizes. I just sent it both of your home emails. :grouphug2:

[Nice & Wavy]

It's gorgeous anyway.

Kerastase has travel sizes. I just sent it both of your home emails. :grouphug2:Thanks, sis :love2:

Ok...checking now!

ETA: Thanks...those are perfect!

[paradise1975]

Oprah's last show and farewell did not sit well with me. As I would see clips of "Oprah saving starving children" "Oprah healing relationships" "Oprahs being the one who saved the day" I was literally turned off.

Oprah was and has been idolized for the 25 years she has been on the air. I was actually offended that she would have the nerve to to say on her LAST SHOW that people questioned her religion and to set the record straight she was talking about the one and only omnipotent one, then at the end she said to GOD be the glory. She is not fooling anyone.

God deserves the glory, honor and praise in everything we do. He is to be the first, we're to give him the first fruits of everything not the last.

I had a strange feeling as I watched, (I did watch the farewell) I mean literally these people were worshiping her, their god. it was like they were entranced by the spirit behind Oprah.

I agree with what everyone else has said about her next agenda with the OWN network. Also her and Gail are very pro-gay, I have seen Gail's show and she is quick to mention how much support she has for the gay community. I pray that the blinders are removed from her followers eyes and that the agenda will never prosper.

[Farida]

Oprah has some level of narcissism to her. She has helped a lot of people and I kind of like her, but she's on the cover of her magazine every month!!!!!!!!

[Farida]

I was talking to an Muslim soldier one time and I was asking him to tell me about his faith and some stupid dude came over and started spewing crap about Islam and the soldier was like, "See, this is why I don't discuss my religion with others and why I am not interested in converting to theirs." That made me very sad.

I am very well-versed in Islam and I think learning to understand where people are coming from, why they believe what they believe is very important for conversion. A lot of people approach people of other faiths (or even Christian denominations) in a very patronizing, disrespectful and belittling manner. Yes, there are people who chose their faith because that's how they were raised. There are those whose religion is nothing more than cultural to them, those whose religion is all about appearance but not substance. However, there are very many people who logically, emotionally and spiritually connect with whatever it is they believe or do not believe. If you go ahead and start by insulting, pontificating your faith and belief there is no way to reach them.

If one's faith is so important and so real to him, you making the person feel stupid, pagan damned or insincere is just a nail on the coffin. It is so much better to be nuanced in your approach, get people witnessing you, reflecting on their own faith, asking those difficult questions of how and why they believe. Looking for what's missing in their lives, looking for comfort, looking for support...IMO, then is when you really reach out and touch someone.

[Shimmie]

Oprah's last show and farewell did not sit well with me. As I would see clips of "Oprah saving starving children" "Oprah healing relationships" "Oprahs being the one who saved the day" I was literally turned off.

Oprah was and has been idolized for the 25 years she has been on the air. I was actually offended that she would have the nerve to to say on her LAST SHOW that people questioned her religion and to set the record straight she was talking about the one and only omnipotent one, then at the end she said to GOD be the glory. She is not fooling anyone.

God deserves the glory, honor and praise in everything we do. He is to be the first, we're to give him the first fruits of everything not the last.

I had a strange feeling as I watched, (I did watch the farewell) I mean literally these people were worshiping her, their god. it was like they were entranced by the spirit behind Oprah.

I agree with what everyone else has said about her next agenda with the OWN network. Also her and Gail are very pro-gay, I have seen Gail's show and she is quick to mention how much support she has for the gay community. I pray that the blinders are removed from her followers eyes and that the agenda will never prosper.

When people are hurting, they reach for what heals the fastest. satan knows this and is using so many false paths for people to seek redemption from their sorrows in life.

[Laela]

Farida,

I have some experience that reflects the other side of this. It really doesn't take any effort to get rejected by a non-believer. Some people will go off on the mere mention -- whisper -- of the name "Jesus".. We all know there is power in that name. Once a person gets saved, they become the enemy to the world. Family members, friends, buddies, etc. It's all FEAR-based, IMHO.

An athiest I know enjoyed 'beefing' with Christians to always try to shut them up or get them all worked up explaining their beliefs. He would get off on that, actually, because he knows the Bible and can recite it in his sleep. He opened his mouth and told me God doesn't exist KNOWING better, because he grew up in the holiness church. Luke 12:48 is a powerful Scripture. Jesus turned over tables in the temple when he confronted those who knew better.

God is not mocked. Someone like him may think think they did something great because they made a Christian 'shut up' or back off, when the work was done by the Holy Spirit. God instructs us to dust off our feet. But woe to those of us who are compelled to speak and remain quiet!

The devil is a prowler... Just because a Christian is passionate about their Savior doesn't mean they are insincere. I'm not picking on you..but people of different faiths will always clash, until the end of time. People have different personalities and that's part of it as well. God is in control yet he respects the will of man. What I love is that He is a God of many chances. He may use one Christian to plant a seed and move on. Another will come along and water that same seed, and grow it. Some of the greatest stories in the Bible are about the salvation of thieves, murderers, prostitutes, idolaters, etc.

At the bolded, ITA, it really is about respecting others' opinions. It doesn't translate to agreeing or believing.

I was talking to an Muslim soldier one time and I was asking him to tell me about his faith and some stupid dude came over and started spewing crap about Islam and the soldier was like, "See, this is why I don't discuss my religion with others and why I am not interested in converting to theirs." That made me very sad.

I am very well-versed in Islam and I think learning to understand where people are coming from, why they believe what they believe is very important for conversion. A lot of people approach people of other faiths (or even Christian denominations) in a very patronizing, disrespectful and belittling manner. Yes, there are people who chose their faith because that's how they were raised. There are those whose religion is nothing more than cultural to them, those whose religion is all about appearance but not substance. However, there are very many people who logically, emotionally and spiritually connect with whatever it is they believe or do not believe. If you go ahead and start by insulting, pontificating your faith and belief there is no way to reach them.

If one's faith is so important and so real to him, you making the person feel stupid, pagan damned or insincere is just a nail on the coffin. It is so much better to be nuanced in your approach, get people witnessing you, reflecting on their own faith, asking those difficult questions of how and why they believe. Looking for what's missing in their lives, looking for comfort, looking for support...IMO, then is when you really reach out and touch someone.

[Shimmie]

I was talking to an Muslim soldier one time and I was asking him to tell me about his faith and some stupid dude came over and started spewing crap about Islam and the soldier was like, "See, this is why I don't discuss my religion with others and why I am not interested in converting to theirs." That made me very sad.

I am very well-versed in Islam and I think learning to understand where people are coming from, why they believe what they believe is very important for conversion. A lot of people approach people of other faiths (or even Christian denominations) in a very patronizing, disrespectful and belittling manner. Yes, there are people who chose their faith because that's how they were raised. There are those whose religion is nothing more than cultural to them, those whose religion is all about appearance but not substance. However, there are very many people who logically, emotionally and spiritually connect with whatever it is they believe or do not believe. If you go ahead and start by insulting, pontificating your faith and belief there is no way to reach them.

If one's faith is so important and so real to him, you making the person feel stupid, pagan damned or insincere is just a nail on the coffin. It is so much better to be nuanced in your approach, get people witnessing you, reflecting on their own faith, asking those difficult questions of how and why they believe. Looking for what's missing in their lives, looking for comfort, looking for support...IMO, then is when you really reach out and touch someone.

This happens to Christians quite often.

Right here, there are literally thousands of threads/posts (combined) in the OT Forum, ET, which mock, malign, bash, disrespect Christians. Many faiths have this affront upon them. And yes, when it occurs to anyone of any faith, it is very sad.

While I am not 'versed' in the Muslim faith, I can say that I am well accepted by my Muslim friends with open arms and they are likewise accepted by me. At the beginning, the end and throughout the day, we are still human beings, the one thing that we will always have in common with one another. We may not share the same faith, but our hearts do share love for one another.

[Shimmie]

I've been doing some research about this 'many paths to God' theory.

It's call the "Gospel of Inclusion'. All faiths are included which in turn defines, the many paths to God theory.

In addition, it is not something new. It's simply been ressurrected (re-surfaced). It's is also well known as Universalism -- "New Age'.

I can understand the need to be at peace with 'everyone', however, one can still be at peace and not compromise the true Gospel of Jesus Christ.

I can't help but wonder just how close one was / is with God who chooses to become 'all inclusive'.

For the truth of Jesus' words still remains and will never change:

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me --- John 14:6 .

How much better a GPS does one need than that?

[Shimmie]

Oprah's last show and farewell did not sit well with me. As I would see clips of "Oprah saving starving children" "Oprah healing relationships" "Oprahs being the one who saved the day" I was literally turned off.

Oprah was and has been idolized for the 25 years she has been on the air. I was actually offended that she would have the nerve to to say on her LAST SHOW that people questioned her religion and to set the record straight she was talking about the one and only omnipotent one, then at the end she said to GOD be the glory. She is not fooling anyone.

God deserves the glory, honor and praise in everything we do. He is to be the first, we're to give him the first fruits of everything not the last.

I had a strange feeling as I watched, (I did watch the farewell) I mean literally these people were worshiping her, their god. it was like they were entranced by the spirit behind Oprah.

I agree with what everyone else has said about her next agenda with the OWN network. Also her and Gail are very pro-gay, I have seen Gail's show and she is quick to mention how much support she has for the gay community.

I pray that the blinders are removed from her followers eyes and that the agenda will never prosper.

@the bolded...

Beautiful . . . :yep:

[Farida]

Laela
Shimmie

There are some people who you cannot even mention anything remotely spiritual to them. Those are the toughies and there's only so much you can help someone. There are people who have a natural gift for converting people, but even then if the person is unwilling to let go and let God...that's the end of it.

I used to be a member of a Christian forum and there was this atheist who used to hang around in there all the time, always arguing, questioning. He was an interesting guy. He knew the bible very well and many of his questions and arguments were extremely logical and well-presented. I couldn't help but believe he was on that board because he wanted to badly to believe. He didn't come across as wanting to tear or drag down believers or mock the faith. If that wasn't the case, the only explanation I could think of is that he was trying to reach out, that he was trying to believe and understand.

I'm no longer active on that site, and he did concede to some of my counterarguments but I don't think he ever got where God wanted him. I think about him sometimes and hope he got/gets there.

We had a new baptism for an adult member of our church. Atheist all his life and he was seeking, he was bouncing from church to church. The interesting thing is he chose to start attending our church regularly, because in his testimony he said he asked the Pastor a question. The pastor thought about it and said, "that's a good question. I honestly do not know the answer. Let me look into it and I will get back to you." He said he was touched by the pastor's humility. We're all human and we do not know everything. But there's some leaders out there who would rather scorn/berate or flat out lie to someone about spiritual matters rather than admit they don't know.

There's many questions I have unanswered but I look at it as, my Lord is a just God and whatever he were to do in that situation would be just/fair and loving.

[Shimmie]

Laela
Shimmie

There are some people who you cannot even mention anything remotely spiritual to them. Those are the toughies and there's only so much you can help someone.

There are people who have a natural gift for converting people, but even then if the person is unwilling to let go and let God...that's the end of it.

I used to be a member of a Christian forum and there was this atheist who used to hang around in there all the time, always arguing, questioning. He was an interesting guy. He knew the bible very well and many of his questions and arguments were extremely logical and well-presented. I couldn't help but believe he was on that board because he wanted to badly to believe. He didn't come across as wanting to tear or drag down believers or mock the faith. If that wasn't the case, the only explanation I could think of is that he was trying to reach out, that he was trying to believe and understand.

I'm no longer active on that site, and he did concede to some of my counterarguments but I don't think he ever got where God wanted him. I think about him sometimes and hope he got/gets there.

We had a new baptism for an adult member of our church. Atheist all his life and he was seeking, he was bouncing from church to church. The interesting thing is he chose to start attending our church regularly, because in his testimony he said he asked the Pastor a question.

The pastor thought about it and said, "that's a good question. I honestly do not know the answer. Let me look into it and I will get back to you." He said he was touched by the pastor's humility. We're all human and we do not know everything. But there's some leaders out there who would rather scorn/berate or flat out lie to someone about spiritual matters rather than admit they don't know.There's many questions I have unanswered but I look at it as, my Lord is a just God and whatever he were to do in that situation would be just/fair and loving.:grin:

Farida

Farida, thank you for sharing this. It's stirring and filled with a lot of reflection. I pray for God to soften the hearts of those who 'fight' against the love of God for them; that they will yield to the love of God and surrender their all without further doubt, unbelief, ambivalence or resistance. In Jesus' name, they shall be set free.

@the bolded. What a wonderful man of God your Pastor is.

I'm praying for the man from the other forum you used to be a part of. I pray that he remembers your love for him and that he receives Jesus with all of his heart.

Your post is such a blessing and it's all from your heart. :yep:

[anartist4u2001]

I love the Book of Ruth...:yep:


Naomi said, "Look, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people and to her god. Follow your sister-in-law."

But Ruth replied:

Do not persuade me to leave you

or go back and not follow you.

For wherever you go, I will go,

and wherever you live, I will live;

your people will be my people,

and your God will be my God.

Where you die, I will die, and there I will be buried.

May the LORD do this to me, and even more,

if anything but death separates you and me.


*** Ruth 1:15-17


i love that scripture!!!!!! Ruth is an amazing book! we are doing a study of it at my church. i think it's an amazing love story too! :)

oh my gosh i love that book!!!! LOL Boaz is such a caring man of God!

sorry guys, ugh, i am just enjoying my study of Ruth. :)

[Shimmie]

i love that scripture!!!!!! Ruth is an amazing book! we are doing a study of it at my church. i think it's an amazing love story too! :)

oh my gosh i love that book!!!! LOL Boaz is such a caring man of God!

sorry guys, ugh, i am just enjoying my study of Ruth. :)

:yep: You're so right, it is very 'Romantic'. :love5:

Boaz was Ruth's "Kinsman Redeemer'. He traveled far away from home to redeem her from another connection to be his...wife.

He fell in love with Ruth at first sight. She was working in the fields, no makeup, no LHCF regimes, no 'PJ's" on order or a Black bag of hair goods from the beauty supply shop; no DC's or hair steamer. her nails weren't 'did', no toe rings or cute sandals. She had no money... :nono:

HOWEVER, Naomi, told her how to 'clean up', and then lay at the man's feet. He woke up and proposed to her...

:scratchch: Hmmmmmm......

Somewhere, there's a lesson in all of this... :lol: