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plainj
06-05-2011, 10:29 AM
Oprah is not just some "black chick".... There's more to Oprah than this, and it's more so what she represents.

Oprah has a TV channel called Oxygen and a magazine called "O".

Scientifically, oxygen is the element with atomic number 8 and represented by the symbol "O".

The element's name derives from the Greek roots (oxys) ("acid", literally "sharp", referring to the sour taste of acids) and (-genēs) ("producer", literally "begetter"). At standard temperature it's a very pale blue, odorless, tasteless diatomic gas with the formula O2, and it's the most abundant chemical element - by mass - in our biosphere.[Wikipedia]

So what does this all mean?

Let's look at the significance of the number 8 in the Bible:

In the Bible, 8 has referenced new beginnings.

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 1 Peter 3:20

Circumcision, the sign of belonging to the covenant people, was to be performed on the eighth day.

And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. Genesis 17:12

The story of Ruth, Orpah (Oprah) and Naomi bears witness to choosing whom to serve. When Orpah's husband (Naomi's son) died, she had the choice of going back to her people and her gods or serving God and going with Ruth and Naomi to serve God. She chose to go back and I believe Ruth and Naomi respected her choice. It WAS her choice, but whatever befell her was the judgment of HER CHOICE. Ruth and Naomi moved on to serve the true living God. We are at this place today.

A brief look at her "OXYGEN" channel shows programming that glorify sin/lust:

The World according to Paris (Hilton) - she represents all the carnality and inherent "wealth" to be desired of this world

BAD GIRLS - need I say more?

Snapped - about who-dunnits on female murderers

America's Next Top Model Obsessed - all about vanity

Dance Your A** off - a show that emphasizes losing weight, being transformed, to "fit in" to the "norm/standard"...

Love Games (Bad girls need love too) - huh?


Not many other people on the planet has the type of influence Oprah has on the innocents. Her influence reaches way beyond the United States, beyond North America... it's WORLDwide.



PREACH IT!!!!!! Ruth, Orpah, Naomi----That's a sermon by itself! Wow.

EricaJoyce
06-05-2011, 11:10 AM
^^^Oh gosh! No no no!!! Let's not misinform people here. Some of this is a matter of opinion but THIS here is just plain wrong! Oprah doesn't own the Oxygen Network, she was part owner, but left the network because she felt that the programming didn't match her views/goals. She now owns the "Own" network, which is, I gotta say, more boring and sometimes a whole lot more depressing than anything shown on Oxygen. It is more of an extension of her show. (Which I love) Except 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. (Which I'm not sure I'm interested in yet. LOL)

There was an article about how her network isn't doing well because people don't want all the positivity all the time. The want "Reality" television. They want people acting a fool, they want the latest celebrity gossip, etc...

Okay I hope I've cleared that up for ya!

Farida
06-06-2011, 10:16 AM
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your father in heaven." Matthew 5:16

IMO, there's no greater way to lead people to God than by example. We're not perfect, but the way we deal with others, especially non-believers has a HUGE impact on whether or not they try and seek God, or to learn more about the Christian faith.

Kurlee
06-06-2011, 07:46 PM
^^^Oh gosh! No no no!!! Let's not misinform people here. Some of this is a matter of opinion but THIS here is just plain wrong! Oprah doesn't own the Oxygen Network, she was part owner, but left the network because she felt that the programming didn't match her views/goals. She now owns the "Own" network, which is, I gotta say, more boring and sometimes a whole lot more depressing than anything shown on Oxygen. It is more of an extension of her show. (Which I love) Except 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. (Which I'm not sure I'm interested in yet. LOL)

There was an article about how her network isn't doing well because people don't want all the positivity all the time. The want "Reality" television. They want people acting a fool, they want the latest celebrity gossip, etc...

Okay I hope I've cleared that up for ya!
Unfortunately, I agree with the bolded. People want the same crap that they complain they are tired of. I think she would do well adding some scripted shows and movies :yep:.

Shimmie
06-06-2011, 08:40 PM
PREACH IT!!!!!! Ruth, Orpah, Naomi----That's a sermon by itself! Wow.

I love the Book of Ruth...:yep:


Naomi said, "Look, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people and to her god. Follow your sister-in-law."

But Ruth replied:

Do not persuade me to leave you

or go back and not follow you.

For wherever you go, I will go,

and wherever you live, I will live;

your people will be my people,

and your God will be my God.

Where you die, I will die, and there I will be buried.

May the LORD do this to me, and even more,

if anything but death separates you and me.


*** Ruth 1:15-17

plainj
06-07-2011, 03:17 PM
Yes Shimmie, I know. I love that Book too. It's really a beautiful story.
The whole Orpah/Oprah thing blew me away; how Orpah, like Oprah, chose to turn away from the living God. Reminds me of a sermon I heard once that talked about being careful what you name your children. Interesting.

And without taking up extra bandwith with a separate post or thread, I just want to say to you, Shimmie, I think you are such a beautiful woman of God. And what a powerful, woman of God you are! My goodness. You have such a gift of love that just pours out like a flood. That's beautiful. :Rose:I really admire you and I love reading your posts. I wanna be like Shimmie when I grow up. Lololol.:lol: j/k God bless you, girl.


I love the Book of Ruth...:yep:


Naomi said, "Look, your sister-in-law has gone back to her people and to her god. Follow your sister-in-law."

But Ruth replied:

Do not persuade me to leave you

or go back and not follow you.

For wherever you go, I will go,

and wherever you live, I will live;

your people will be my people,

and your God will be my God.

Where you die, I will die, and there I will be buried.

May the LORD do this to me, and even more,

if anything but death separates you and me.


*** Ruth 1:15-17

AtlantaJJ
06-07-2011, 03:34 PM
Yes Shimmie, I know. I love that Book too. It's really a beautiful story.
The whole Orpah/Oprah thing blew me away; how Orpah, like Oprah, chose to turn away from the living God. Reminds me of a sermon I heard once that talked about being careful what you name your children. Interesting.

And without taking up extra bandwith with a separate post or thread, I just want to say to you, Shimmie, I think you are such a beautiful woman of God. And what a powerful, woman of God you are! My goodness. You have such a gift of love that just pours out like a flood. That's beautiful. :Rose:I really admire you and I love reading your posts. I wanna be like Shimmie when I grow up. Lololol.:lol: j/k God bless you, girl.

The Orpah/Oprah thing got me too!

I have an aunt that named her first born son Ishmale. :nono:


ETA: I just read The Book of Ruth, I love that book now also! I agree Shimmie is wonderful!

Shimmie
06-07-2011, 06:29 PM
Yes Shimmie, I know. I love that Book too. It's really a beautiful story.
The whole Orpah/Oprah thing blew me away; how Orpah, like Oprah, chose to turn away from the living God. Reminds me of a sermon I heard once that talked about being careful what you name your children. Interesting.

And without taking up extra bandwith with a separate post or thread, I just want to say to you, Shimmie, I think you are such a beautiful woman of God. And what a powerful, woman of God you are! My goodness. You have such a gift of love that just pours out like a flood. That's beautiful. :Rose:I really admire you and I love reading your posts. I wanna be like Shimmie when I grow up. Lololol.:lol: j/k God bless you, girl.

:kiss: Thank you I love you, too, Lovely 'J'. You are anything but 'plain'. You brighten the lives of many more people than you will ever know. :love2:

Shimmie
06-07-2011, 06:33 PM
The Orpah/Oprah thing got me too!

I have an aunt that named her first born son Ishmale. :nono:


ETA: I just read The Book of Ruth, I love that book now also! I agree Shimmie is wonderful!

Precious Atlanta, I agree that you are more than wonderful. :bighug:

As for naming our children, we speak those meanings over them, each time we address them by their name. We have to be so careful.

AtlantaJJ
06-08-2011, 09:09 AM
Precious Atlanta, I agree that you are more than wonderful. :bighug:

As for naming our children, we speak those meanings over them, each time we address them by their name. We have to be so careful.

I named my son Matthew!! We both love that name :grin:
My son is truly a gift from God as his name indicates!!

Prudent1
06-08-2011, 10:30 AM
As for naming our children, we speak those meanings over them, each time we address them by their name. We have to be so careful.
Speaking of... I know someone who named their sons after Mahlon (meaning sickness) and Chilion (meaning pining or wasting away):sad: because they sounded masculine and were in the bible:spinning:. **sighs**

Shimmie
06-09-2011, 11:54 AM
I named my son Matthew!! We both love that name :grin:
My son is truly a gift from God as his name indicates!!

Matthew... one who follows Jesus.

My daughter's name is 'Dara'. It's Hebrew and it means 'heart of wisdom'.

My son's middle name is 'Michael'... "God-like'.

Shimmie
06-09-2011, 01:04 PM
Speaking of... I know someone who named their sons after Mahlon (meaning sickness) and Chilion (meaning pining or wasting away):sad: because they sounded masculine and were in the bible:spinning:. **sighs**

Oh my goodness... :drunk:

I'm a little concerned about the meanings of most of the names given to our children of color (i.e. with all of the tay's; niqua's; and so on. :eek2:

MsLi@512
06-09-2011, 01:09 PM
Why would you bring profanity into this forum? This is not the place for it.

I know that you think this is a game, however, please be careful. You're bringing judgment upon yourself; one that you are not spiritually mature enough to handle.

Whether you believe it or not or whether you care or not, you must be careful. None of this is a game.

I Respectfully need to add here that:
As a Christian, I think that we are forgetting the most important commandment of all: TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER "love your neighbour as yourself"..Mark 12:28
No matter how well versed in the Word we are, God understood that kind words and loving gestures even in the face of disagreement speak louder, reaches wider, goes further, and makes serving Christ more attractive than any threats, overuse of King James dialect, scripture quotes, or insincere usage of names of endearment. Our jobs are to draw people to Christ and be the Salt of the earth. We must ask, if our discussions fulfil our ultimate purpose which is to bring souls to the Father. We must be mindful if our methods are just defending the word at the cost of turning people away. I believe an air of humility and love is in order not just for those who agree with us, but to all. This is our duty, our walk. The judgemental nature of some Christians is what turns people off and make them not want anything to do with our God. Let he who is without sin throw the first stone... John 8:7 (please remember this in all all ways)

Shimmie
06-09-2011, 01:40 PM
Unfortunately, I agree with the bolded. People want the same crap that they complain they are tired of. I think she would do well adding some scripted shows and movies :yep:.

:yep: I agree Kurlee. Folks want a lot of mess for TV entertainment.

While Oprah was still involved with her regular show, I don't think she had much time to focus on the line-up for 'OWN' as her new TV network. However, now that she is no longer tied up with her longrunning talk show, she may be putting more of her efforts on her new network station.

'We' (and I say 'we' in general) already know that this will be a network to further her agenda. Already Public TV is sponsoring / supporting the gay lifestyle. They had a special on the other night "Out in America' and for 'x' number of dollars, folks who contributed to support PBS received other gay agenda materials to support their cause.

In 2009 PBS chose to eliminate all public broadcasting of any type of Christian progaming.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/16/pbs-begin-phasing-religious-programming-airwaves/

PBS to Begin Phasing Out Religious Programming From Airwaves

PBS board members, who for 25 years have turned a blind eye to religious programming at some of their member stations' religious programing, have decided to enforce a rule banning the broadcasts -- a move that spells the beginning of the end for religious shows on public television.

Six PBS stations currently broadcast "sectarian" programs produced by local religious groups, including the morning "Mass for Shut-Ins," which is popular among elderly and ailing Catholics who cannot attend the daily service.

Under the terms of a decision reached by the PBS board Tuesday, those stations can retain their current shows. And all stations can air programs and documentaries that cover sacred topics -- even a newsworthy service, like a papal Mass.

But no new religious shows can be offered, and none of the 350 other stations may air any purely spiritual content, a move some groups say is a quiet means of phasing out religion from their airwaves.

"PBS' goal is to not have religious programming on PBS affiliates of what we call 'pure' religious (content)" such as Masses or devotional readings, said Susan Briggs, director of Communications for the Catholic Archdiocese of Washington.

(more of this article online)-------

I see them as being bias ... :yep:

In that respect, PBS will never get a dime out of me to support their station... ever. :nono:

I tried to keep this short but obviously :look: :lol:

The point I'm making is that if PBS chose to eliminate Christian positve programing, I see Oprah doing the same with 'OWN''.

Right now, Gail (Oprah's friend) who is on OWN is wasting no time at all, placing a negative on Christianity.

I DO see Oprah doing this. Self-praising God and putting her own spin upon it. Mis-leading others with a false gospel. i.e. to continue with what she's been doing all along. Creating and endorsing programing which furthers her false beliefs.

AtlantaJJ
06-09-2011, 03:37 PM
I fell away from Oprah a long while ago even before I was saved. I just didn't feel right participating in the Oprah worship that goes on. :nono:

Guitarhero
06-09-2011, 05:42 PM
People do need to show humility and love but on the other hand, christians are being cast down worldwide. There's currently a debate going on over Ensinito, CA (town??) and a graffiti mural of the Virgin Mary on a surf board on a wave. :rolleyes: I think it's disrespectful and that the original apparition/heavenly icon cannot be "improved" by man. As long as they don't come into our services and disrupt anything, it's business as usual. Wolves are all around but be wise as a serpent.

Nice & Wavy
06-09-2011, 06:39 PM
I Respectfully need to add here that:
As a Christian, I think that we are forgetting the most important commandment of all: TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER "love your neighbour as yourself"..Mark 12:28
No matter how well versed in the Word we are, God understood that kind words and loving gestures even in the face of disagreement speak louder, reaches wider, goes further, and makes serving Christ more attractive than any threats, overuse of King James dialect, scripture quotes, or insincere usage of names of endearment. Our jobs are to draw people to Christ and be the Salt of the earth. We must ask, if our discussions fulfil our ultimate purpose which is to bring souls to the Father. We must be mindful if our methods are just defending the word at the cost of turning people away. I believe an air of humility and love is in order not just for those who agree with us, but to all. This is our duty, our walk. The judgemental nature of some Christians is what turns people off and make them not want anything to do with our God. Let he who is without sin throw the first stone... John 8:7 (please remember this in all all ways)I know this isn't directed towards me, since you did quote Shimmie, but I'd like to ask you...how is she being judgemental in bringing correction to the person she responded too in her post? Walking in love also means to bring correction.

I think what happens is that people forget that when Jesus had His ministry here on the earth, He said whatever He needed to say and do and then He said "greater works shall we do". Christians shouldn't walk as if they are on eggshells every time they say something that doesn't line up with what the mainstream may think. People are saying that being judgemental, is when a christian says "Jesus loves you!"

Our job as believers in Jesus is to lead people to the foot of the cross...there will be times when bringing correction to someone will be in order...it's not that she doesn't love another...she does, that's why correction was brought.

As Jesus prayed to the Father "let them be one, even as we are one."

Blessings to the forum...always.

N&W

Shimmie
06-09-2011, 06:51 PM
I know this isn't directed towards me, since you did quote Shimmie, but I'd like to ask you...how is she being judgemental in bringing correction to the person she responded too in her post? Walking in love also means to bring correction.

I think what happens is that people forget that when Jesus had His ministry here on the earth, He said whatever He needed to say and do and then He said "greater works shall we do". Christians shouldn't walk as if they are on eggshells every time they say something that doesn't line up with what the mainstream may think. People are saying that being judgemental, is when a christian says "Jesus loves you!"

Our job as believers in Jesus is to lead people to the foot of the cross...there will be times when bringing correction to someone will be in order...it's not that she doesn't love another...she does, that's why correction was brought.

As Jesus prayed to the Father "let them be one, even as we are one."

Blessings to the forum...always.

N&W

:kiss: With all my heart.... :rosebud:

Nice & Wavy
06-09-2011, 07:01 PM
:yep: I agree Kurlee. Folks want a lot of mess for TV entertainment.

While Oprah was still involved with her regular show, I don't think she had much time to focus on the line-up for 'OWN' as her new TV network. However, now that she is no longer tied up with her longrunning talk show, she may be putting more of her efforts on her new network station.

'We' (and I say 'we' in general) already know that this will be a network to further her agenda. Already Public TV is sponsoring / supporting the gay lifestyle. They had a special on the other night "Out in America' and for 'x' number of dollars, folks who contributed to support PBS received other gay agenda materials to support their cause.

In 2009 PBS chose to eliminate all public broadcasting of any type of Christian progaming.

-------

I see them as being bias ... :yep:

In that respect, PBS will never get a dime out of me to support their station... ever. :nono:

I tried to keep this short but obviously :look: :lol:

The point I'm making is that if PBS chose to eliminate Christian positve programing, I see Oprah doing the same with 'OWN''.

Right now, Gail (Oprah's friend) who is on OWN is wasting no time at all, placing a negative on Christianity.

I DO see Oprah doing this. Self-praising God and putting her own spin upon it. Mis-leading others with a false gospel. i.e. to continue with what she's been doing all along. Creating and endorsing programing which furthers her false beliefs.PBS is temporary...subject to change!