At this point in your Christian walk, would you date/marry someone who is unsaved?

[mstrublvr]

makeupgirl..I truly hope you ignore anyone wishing to keep you from attaining more knowledge. Anyone who recommends not learning is a scary person. I truly hope you decide to take a religion class. Its purely academic and it will no way diminish your faith. Faith is faith. I have a better understanding of different people because of what I learned. It broadened my humanity.

[mstrublvr]

Sounds interesting...I'm a nerd anyway :lol: I'll wait until my degree is finished then I'll add this to my outside my major list of classes to take.

It's filling up too:

Fashion Design
Fashion Marketing
Cooking 101
Baking
Ballet
Auto repair
Karate
Swimming
Now Religion.

Oh wow Auto repair?? I always wanted to learn the basics myself too. I didnt even think of it til you listed it.:yep: I will have to look into adding it. I can swim, but learning to do it right would be good too. I will have to check what my school offers too.

[makeupgirl]

@makeupgirl (http://www.longhaircareforum.com/member.php?u=160632)..I truly hope you ignore anyone wishing to keep you from attaining more knowledge. Anyone who recommends not learning is a scary person. I truly hope you decide to take a religion class. Its purely academic and it will no way diminish your faith. Faith is faith. I have a better understanding of different people because of what I learned. It broadened my humanity.

lol...I just love learning. I'm picky about what I take class wise, when it's not part of my major courses but I was going to plan on taking another religion class anyway. Plus, I'm always researching anything. I like the challenge of learning and obtaining. My granddad was a stickler on sharpening the mind and memory well into old age.

[mstrublvr]

lol...I just love learning. I'm picky about what I take class wise, when it's not part of my major courses but I was going to plan on taking another religion class anyway. Plus, I'm always researching anything. I like the challenge of learning and obtaining. My granddad was a stickler on sharpening the mind and memory well into old age.

Same here..nerd alert :grin: My mom was the same. She would tell me time and again how she was denied education as a child, so she would feed her mind on regularly as an adult. She took one class every semester up until she passed.

[makeupgirl]

Oh wow Auto repair?? I always wanted to learn the basics myself too. I didnt even think of it til you listed it.:yep: I will have to look into adding it. I can swim, but learning to do it right would be good too. I will have to check what my school offers too.

Well, I know how to swim because I got tired of staying by myself in the shallow end but I want to actually master the different strokes. Auto repair because I want to make sure that when I hear a noise I can stop freaking out and also to know if my car really needs like a particular repair. The last time I got my car inspected (it's required in VA), I went to the dealership and the mechanic told me I needed about over $500 worth of repairs done that I found out that I didn't need, so I just wanted to learn for myself. It's definitely good for each woman to learn this for herself.

[makeupgirl]

Same here..nerd alert :grin: My mom was the same. She would tell me time and again how she was denied education as a child, so she would feed her mind on regularly as an adult. She took one class every semester up until she passed.

wow...I can't believe they denied her education. But I'm glad she was able to. Very inspirational. :yep:

Well, Ladies....I have to get back to work. Please pray that I will stay alert and awake. I'm actually drinking a coke to stay awake. I hope my sugar is ok.

[mstrublvr]

Well, I know how to swim because I got tired of staying by myself in the shallow end but I want to actually master the different strokes. Auto repair because I want to make sure that when I hear a noise I can stop freaking out and also to know if my car really needs like a particular repair. The last time I got my car inspected (it's required in VA), I went to the dealership and the mechanic told me I needed about over $500 worth of repairs done that I found out that I didn't need, so I just wanted to learn for myself. It's definitely good for each woman to learn this for herself.

Those are my reasons too. I can swim, but I cannot do the butterfly or backstroke,etc. and I bet you will learn CPR and/or water rescue. Car issues..mechanics know that most women do not know. I usually have a guy take my car to the mechanic for me. :sad: Thanks for the idea...I am definitely looking into it.

[mstrublvr]

wow...I can't believe they denied her education. But I'm glad she was able to. Very inspirational. :yep:
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40s in Mississippi for a black child was hellish.

It was great chatting with you. Good luck on staying awake! :spinning:

[makeupgirl]

40s in Mississippi for a black child was hellish.

It was great chatting with you. Good luck on staying awake! :spinning:

Nice chatting with you too :yep:

[Nice & Wavy]

It all boils down to this:

"As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him."
1 John 2:27

If you have a humble and right relationship with the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob...the Great I AM, and the Holy Spirit lives in you and can teach you everything you need to know to live a Godly and Holy life before the Father, why go and look any further for answers? You are only looking for trouble within your soul....and what the devil wants is for you to be separate from God! He doesn't care that you know much scripture, go to church every Sunday and take up for social issues on the internet...his only goal is for you to lose your soul.

"You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?" Galatians 3:1

That is, foolish for having yielded to the influence of the false teachers, and for having embraced doctrines that tended to subvert the gospel of the Redeemer. The particular thing to which Paul refers here is that they were so easily led astray by the arguments of the false teachers.

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL teach you everything....look here:

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26

He shall teach you all things - If in the things which He have already spoken to you, there appear to you any obscurity...the Holy Spirit, the Advocate, Counsellor, and Instructor, will take away all your doubts, free you from all embarrassment, and give you a perfect understanding in all things. Why are you looking elsewhere for answers when He's right there with you, ready to tell you everything you need to know and lead you on the right path?

We must get to the point where we are SOLD OUT FOR JESUS! Nothing else will do, people...so get it right, don't get it twisted!

May those that truly know HIM keep their eyes upon HIM for whom they have to do!

N&W

[OhmyKimB]

Can you provide some examples of such denominations then? With the bible verses they point to?

Just google Calvinism. Then from there you will see how each differs. That's the simplest way...

[OhmyKimB]

It all boils down to this:

"As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him."
1 John 2:27

If you have a humble and right relationship with the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob...the Great I AM, and the Holy Spirit lives in you and can teach you everything you need to know to live a Godly and Holy life before the Father, why go and look any further for answers? You are only looking for trouble within your soul....and what the devil wants is for you to be separate from God! He doesn't care that you know much scripture, go to church every Sunday and take up for social issues on the internet...his only goal is for you to lose your soul.

"You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?" Galatians 3:1

That is, foolish for having yielded to the influence of the false teachers, and for having embraced doctrines that tended to subvert the gospel of the Redeemer. The particular thing to which Paul refers here is that they were so easily led astray by the arguments of the false teachers.

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL teach you everything....look here:

"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you." John 14:26

He shall teach you all things - If in the things which He have already spoken to you, there appear to you any obscurity...the Holy Spirit, the Advocate, Counsellor, and Instructor, will take away all your doubts, free you from all embarrassment, and give you a perfect understanding in all things. Why are you looking elsewhere for answers when He's right there with you, ready to tell you everything you need to know and lead you on the right path?

We must get to the point where we are SOLD OUT FOR JESUS! Nothing else will do, people...so get it right, don't get it twisted!

May those that truly know HIM keep their eyes upon HIM for whom they have to do!

N&W

Because Thanks isn't enough

[FlyyBohemian]

I know for myself that I met my husband at a point in my life when he was living in the world and for the world and so was I. When I began my walk with God and He began to change me, my husband began to change as well. Sometimes honestly, I question whether my husband is truly saved or not. If you ask him, he'll tell you hes a christian. We regularly attend church and serve on the chruch staff. While I know He believes in God and has asked Jesus for slavation, his actions speak otherwise. No one but God knows for sure and I pray for him to give himself completely to the Lord.

I know my prayers and my encouragement have helped this man more than I will ever know. He grew up in a "lets play pretend Christian" home where they all said the right things and walked the walk but had a family life that was decidely opposite. His father I feel truly became saved in the later years of his life and apologized to my husband on how he was raised. Unfortunately for my husband, he spent a longtime learning how to be a Christian without having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Now in his late 20's, he is skeptical. But one thing is for sure, Where we were when we met and where we are now because of my walk with God and His blessing on our family is like night and day.

He has truly blessed this household and my husband through prayer and obedience. My husband is not the spirtual leader of our household yet, but I trust in my God that I will see that in my lifetime. He doesn't fast, or pray like I do, or have the desire to tithe like I do, but God sent him to me and we delight ourselves in retelling our friends and family how we met, how God has brought us from glory to glory. We don't fight over these things because while he isn't there yet, he sees the God in what I do. The things it took for me to see God's faithfulness and submit to him fully will not be the things it will take for my husband because he is not me. His walk with God is unique to only him.

My husband loves his family, treats me like gold, loves and honors our children, is learning humility, and believes the word of God to be true yet he sturggles with obedience and pride like many of us. I have seen him grow leaps and bounds by osmosis!! lol. God is changing His heart in His own way. I also believe that salvation is a lifelong journey and no one can say that they have "made it".
I honor my husband and he is head of our household because that is how we see it modeled in God's word. Are we unequally yolked? Does it count that we were both in the world when we met or does that only apply to someone who is a Christian believer before they marry? If my prayers and obedience to God help my husband heal certain areas that are preventing him from running into the arms of His heavenly father , were we ever unequally yolked to begin with? Would it be self-righteous of me to say to my future husband, you are not as far as I am in my walk with God so I cannot marry you until you are at least on my level?

It's different if both of you were unsaved before marriage. I see you as blessed.

[CoilyFields]

Wow...so much going on here!

To answer the OP. NOPE. I would not date or marry someone that is not saved. Why?
The Bible says not to...very clearly...Im not sure how this can even be misinterpreted. And so far in this thread I have not seen different interpretations of it, just people ignoring it all together (or discrediting the Bible).

The Bible says for the husband to love the wife as Christ loved the church...if he's not saved then how can he even pattern his life to attempt this? And how hard is it to submit to a husband who does not even seek God to lead him?

You must also use spiritual discernment following the HOly Spirit in its ability to help you make wise choices for other saved folks. If the saved person only goes to church on Christmas and Easter and you're in church 3 times a week, on committees and auxilaries, paying your tithes etc...ya might not be a good match even though you're both saved.


As for us worshiping the same God...if you belive that Jesus is the messiah, son of God, one with God then it is very likely that we worship the same God.

If you do not believe Jesus is God...we dont worship the same God. (Muslim, Jews-not including Jews for Jesus lol etc.)

If you believe Jesus and Satan were brothers and that God used to be human...we do not worship the same God (Mormons).
And there are plenty more...

Note: The Bible speaks of one world religion in the end-times and this is strikingly close to that prediction. Saying that as long as you believe in a "higher power" or God, then you're right is the anti-thesis of Christianity. Or that we all believe in the same God, or that there is more than one way to God is exactly what Revelations talks about. Dont believe the hype.

(Oh and if you wanna know about how Abraham and 'nem were saved even though they hadnt seen the messiah, read Hebrews).

[crwnandglory]

How can we talk about whether or not we should marry an unsaved individual when we have such bickering and tension in this thread?

1 Peter 3 encourages women to live a good life full of the fruits of the spirit... to live blamelessly in front of our husbands. Reading over the last posts and seeing all of the bickering reminds me that at the end of the day saved women/men must conduct themselves properly you never know who you may be turning away from Christ...it could be your future husband. You know the one you dare not marry because he is unsaved? Well your attitude, behavior, speech, heart may be the very thing to keep him unsaved or to bring him into the family.

We are suppose to be the light of the earth... reflecting His Glory!

[CoilyFields]

How can we talk about whether or not we should marry an unsaved individual when we have such bickering and tension in this thread?

1 Peter 3 encourages women to live a good life full of the fruits of the spirit... to live blamelessly in front of our husbands. Reading over the last posts and seeing all of the bickering reminds me that at the end of the day saved women/men must conduct themselves properly you never know who you may be turning away from Christ...it could be your future husband. You know the one you dare not marry because he is unsaved? Well your attitude, behavior, speech, heart may be the very thing to keep him unsaved or to bring him into the family.

We are suppose to be the light of the earth... reflecting His Glory!

crwnandglory
Just a little confused sis. Are you saying that its ok to marry an unsaved person because through your conduct you may help lead them to Christ?

[Shimmie]

makeupgirl and mstrublvr

These two made a wonderful example of how two can disagree and yet end up making wonderful amends. :yep:

They stepped outside of their disagreement and found an understanding and common ground with each other; even sharing humour in their conversation, ended not only in peace, but sincerely wishing each other well. :giveheart:

Humans, Christian or non, are not going to always agree and I admit that an unattractive display of disagreement is just that... it's unattractive. No one wants to be 'seen' in that 'light' by someone they care for or would want to care for them.

I like the way the two ladies above brought peace into their exchange of views. The heart of God took over and they welcomed Him. :yep:

Thank you -- makeupgirl and mstrublvr :Rose:

[Shimmie]

How can we talk about whether or not we should marry an unsaved individual when we have such bickering and tension in this thread?

1 Peter 3 encourages women to live a good life full of the fruits of the spirit... to live blamelessly in front of our husbands. Reading over the last posts and seeing all of the bickering reminds me that at the end of the day saved women/men must conduct themselves properly you never know who you may be turning away from Christ...it could be your future husband. You know the one you dare not marry because he is unsaved? Well your attitude, behavior, speech, heart may be the very thing to keep him unsaved or to bring him into the family.

We are suppose to be the light of the earth... reflecting His Glory!

crwnandglory ... You've made a very good point that I am taking 'heed' to. I have to remember that my posts are not 'private' emails; others see what I 'say'. :giveheart:

[Guitarhero]

crwnandglory
Just a little confused sis. Are you saying that its ok to marry an unsaved person because through your conduct you may help lead them to Christ?


I think that's something that was brought up a few months ago either here or elsewhere...?? If you're already married to a non-believer/righteous person, your behavior can lead them to a deep relationship with the Father...but I don't think scripture advocates joining into such a relationship if you are already one. Where's that scripture? LOL.

[Crown]

Sorry, if someone has already said this (I did not read all the posts).


Difficult to say who is saved and who is unsaved.
A seems to be saved person can be or become very evil.
An unsaved person can be a saved one tomorrow or in a few years.

Maybe it’s better to say : will you date/marry a non Christian ?