Bishop Eddie Long Sued for Sexual Coercion

[Shimmie]

He is going to address this with his congregation on Sunday at 11:00 so says the news. He is also saying it is a smear tactic and that it is ALL ABOUT $$$$.

^^I think he is just proud of his body, just like many of us are proud of our hair.



:yep: :yep: :yep: At the bolded, that's a good one GN :Rose: I have to totally agree with this. :lol: I have a little too much pride when it comes to my hair. Especially when it's in the wind and smelling all fresh and clean. :rocker:

I have no doubt that Bishop Long is proud of his body. But all men with muscles are like this. It's just part of who they are. :strong:

I'm not excusing any wrong this man may have done; I can't. I expect honour from our leaders. But I can't hang him for loving his body. Cause God knows, I love my hair ad few other features. :rolleyes:

Blessings to you... :Rose:

[SHEANITPRO]

^^^Supposedly, these are the tamest pictures sent to the young men that they are publicly releasing at this time.

BJ Bernstein legal counsel for the accusers is adamant that there are more that are seriously incriminating....more will be revealed.

This is truly a sad case.

[taytay86]

I am one of those who believes that there is some truth to these allegations. There was always something that just didn't sit right with me about Bishop Long, but I always just pushed it aside. I have never attended his church for that reason. I only wen there for left Eye's funeral and for my graduation from Spelman. But both times something about him rubbed me the wrong way. I always felt that his focus was misguided.

If this is true, I hope that he gets some help.

But what I find even more troubling is the fact that so many men of the cloth are engaging in this type of behavior. I still believe, and will continue to believe, that homosexuality is a spirit just like any other demonic spirit. All of these revelations about men of god should inspire Christians to start praying against this stuff. When we give it a foothold it will just start to take over.

YES! YES! YES! I have always said this as well BECAUSE there is no other way to explain homosexuality. Those individuals who CLAIM they were born gay, just had a spirit attach themselves to them at a young age. With that obviously comes the spirit of confusion. I prayed against all these spirits before my daughter was born, and had her blessed just minutes after birth because I strongly believe there are spirits lurking just waiting to attack a child of God.

For real though? For real???

http://missjia.com/images/2010/09/long3.jpg



That don't look like no humble servant/leader of God to me, flashy jewelry, fitted muscle shirts and all. So he sent those alleged victims photos because he was "proud of his body" ?


:lol: :lol: :lol: Ya'll funny.

Dudes take pics like this ALL THE TIME come on! Are YOU serious? Just take a look and some of the dudes on your facebook friends list....ridiculous.

I know if I was sending "suggestive" pics to my SO they definitely wouldn't look like that, trust me. Anyone could've hacked into his phone to retrieved that pic. ANYONE. If I wanted to bring down a Bishop at a mega church, trust me I better know what I'm doing. Hacking into a phone is the obvious choice.

Attorney BJ Bernstein is gonna have to come harder than that.

[SHEANITPRO]

^^^Yep, she sure will.

She's shrewd enough not to lay out all her cards, the "poker" face you know,
but she has a vested interest in this case too.

I doubt the accusers have the money to pay her...no doubt she is doing "pro bono" work
her reputaton and credibility are on the line so she will be a zealot on this case,

[Rastafarai]

Dudes take pics like this ALL THE TIME come on! Are YOU serious? Just take a look and some of the dudes on your facebook friends list....ridiculous.

I know if I was sending "suggestive" pics to my SO they definitely wouldn't look like that, trust me. Anyone could've hacked into his phone to retrieved that pic. ANYONE. If I wanted to bring down a Bishop at a mega church, trust me I better know what I'm doing. Hacking into a phone is the obvious choice.

Attorney BJ Bernstein is gonna have to come harder than that.


No you are not comparing a Bishop of a megachurch to "dudes....on Facebook".

He isn't just a DUDE but presumably an upstanding Christian leader in his community and amongst his churchgoers. Now looking at THOSE pictures without actually knowing his profession, I would never think he was a pastor/preacher/Christian leader. Where is his wedding ring ? Why is he taking photos of himself in tight muscle tees and flamboyant jewelry? Is he THAT obnoxious and conceited a person to find the need to "show off" his assets? And yet, you call this a man of God?

If these photos were in fact taken by Mr. Long and sent to his victims then it is certainly inappropriate for a man who is not only a Christian leader but more a married Christian at that.

I cannot wait to see where this case goes. I very much look forward to hearing what he has to say come Sunday. And FYI, the legal counsel in this case is certainly no fool. I think its a pretty much a wrap from hereonin and things are about to get real ugly.

[Spring]

I pray for the young men and their families....

[taytay86]

you're missing the point Rasta...but whatever.

[Baggettcindy]

Did anyone see the video below? It was posted a few months ago...some think this could be **** Long...
Even if this situation didn't happen, the video still has a good Word

YouTube - Brian Carn - "Spirit of Perversion and Deception" In the Church (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vjiECf6OQ&feature=player_embedded)

[Laela]

I pray for them as well.... :yep:

I pray for the young men and their families....

[Laela]

:lachen: :lachen: :lachen:

Men..boys... once my young, no-muscle nephew wore a muscle shirt and I'm like.. why??? LOL

:yep: :yep: :yep: At the bolded, that's a good one GN :Rose: I have to totally agree with this. :lol: I have a little too much pride when it comes to my hair. Especially when it's in the wind and smelling all fresh and clean. :rocker:

I have no doubt that Bishop Long is proud of his body. But all men with muscles are like this. It's just part of who they are. :strong:

[Raspberry]

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[Shimmie]

I pray for the young men and their families....

I pray for them as well.... :yep:

The two of you are on target. I agree, I'm praying for them as well; It's sad on all sides of this .... all sides and sadder even for the heart of God. I'm praying for them also because I have a 'rant' in my heart about this situation.
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My Rant:

Question: How old are these men?

What I don't understand is that if these men were / or / are adults, why did they allow this to happen, let alone continue?

If there is indeed impropriety committed, was it consentual? If so, is this vengence or justice?

What bothers me is that as an adult, they did not have to 'allow' this to continue or to even get started for that matter. Come on.. now! If a Pastor made an improper approach towards me (or any man and sadly in this day and time, a woman made an improper approach towards me, they would be promptly rebuked at the very moment, NOT sometime way down the line.

It just that it bothers me to no end with cases like this when full grown adults come forward with cases like this when they could have avoided it or nipped it in the bud, before it even occurred. I just don't understand this. I truly don't. NO One has that much of a hold on anyone, I don't care who they are!

My question to his accusers is simply this: What took you so long and why did you allow it to continue? I just find no excuse to it. None! No one has to allow anyone to subject them to this. If a Church leader, member, etc., is out of control, wack the mess out of them :hardslap: and leave the Church and keep it moving. If nothing else, God in Heaven will back you up.

I'm sorry, in situations like this, both sides are wrong. It takes two to get it twisted and if these alligations are indeed true, I'm not seeing these men (the accusers) as victims, because they simply did not have to allow it to happen. They have so much 'voice' now, telling it. I'm not taking up for any wrong doing of the 'accused'; but as for the accusers, they should have used these very same voices to put a stop to it long before it started.

I'm just sayin'....

Okay.... rant over.... :fogbrain:

It's still in my heart to pray for all sides, because only God can handle this as it should be handled. Our prayers protect the Body of Christ and heals the broken hearts of this tragedy. :Rose:

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I know I have 'typos' in this post. I always have typos when I type a 1000 'wpm' rant... :rolleyes:

[Shimmie]

:lachen: :lachen: :lachen:

Men..boys... once my young, no-muscle nephew wore a muscle shirt and I'm like.. why??? LOL

:lachen: Laela, I haven't met a man yet, who didn't show off his 'guns' if they were 'cut' or show off his tummie if it's ripped. :lol: When my son was 5 years old, he'd pull up his sleeves and show me his "muscles" saying, "Look mom, I got muscles";

.......and he still does it now. :yep: :drunk:

Men are just like that ! If it's big, they want to show it off. Big car, Big house, Big bank roll... :spinning: I don't defend it, because pride does have it's consequence when out of control, but those pics of Bishop and his muscles, is not unusual. God have mercy on this entire case.

God, we surely need your mercy upon us all. Lead and guide us in what we should do and how we should pray. In Jesus' name, Amen and Amen.

[SHEANITPRO]

The two of you are on target. I agree, I'm praying for them as well; It's sad on all sides of this .... all sides and sadder even for the heart of God. I'm praying for them also because I have a 'rant' in my heart about this situation.
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My Rant:

Question: How old are these men?

What I don't understand is that if these men were / or / are adults, why did they allow this to happen, let alone continue?

If there is indeed impropriety committed, was it consentual? If so, is this vengence or justice?

What bothers me is that as an adult, they did not have to 'allow' this to continue or to even get started for that matter. Come on.. now! If a Pastor made an improper approach towards me (or any man and sadly in this day and time, a woman made an improper approach towards me, they would be promptly rebuked at the very moment, NOT sometime way down the line.

It just that it bothers me to no end with cases like this when full grown adults come forward with cases like this when they could have avoided it or nipped it in the bud, before it even occurred. I just don't understand this. I truly don't. NO One has that much of a hold on anyone, I don't care who they are!

My question to his accusers is simply this: What took you so long and why did you allow it to continue? I just find no excuse to it. None! No one has to allow anyone to subject them to this. If a Church leader, member, etc., is out of control, wack the mess out of them :hardslap: and leave the Church and keep it moving. If nothing else, God in Heaven will back you up.

I'm sorry, in situations like this, both sides are wrong. It takes two to get it twisted and if these alligations are indeed true, I'm not seeing these men (the accusers) as victims, because they simply did not have to allow it to happen. They have so much 'voice' now, telling it. I'm not taking up for any wrong doing of the 'accused'; but as for the accusers, they should have used these very same voices to put a stop to it long before it started.

I'm just sayin'....

Okay.... rant over.... :fogbrain:

It's still in my heart to pray for all sides, because only God can handle this as it should be handled. Our prayers protect the Body of Christ and heals the broken hearts of this tragedy. :Rose:

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I know I have 'typos' in this post. I always have typos when I type a 1000 'wpm' rant... :rolleyes:


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Here are the legal complaints of all (3) accusers that may shed light on your questions

•Flagg Complaint Against Bishop Eddie Long

http://media2.myfoxatlanta.com/PDF/FLAGGDraftComplaint.pdf


•Robinson Complaint Against Bishop Eddie Long

http://media2.myfoxatlanta.com/PDF/ROBINSONDraftComplaint.pdf


•Parris Complaint Against Bishop Eddie Long

http://media2.myfoxatlanta.com/PDF/ParrisComplaint.pdf

[taytay86]

Did anyone just watch AC 260 on CNN?

I just find it so comical that they would choose a gay pastor, and a pastor who was also accused of molestation etc. to debate the Eddie Long topic. Two hypocrites in my eyes - but then again, this is what the media wants!!!!

[mrselle]

:lachen: Laela, I haven't met a man yet, who didn't show off his 'guns' if they were 'cut' or show off his tummie if it's ripped. :lol: When my son was 5 years old, he'd pull up his sleeves and show me his "muscles" saying, "Look mom, I got muscles";

.......and he still does it now. :yep: :drunk:

Men are just like that ! If it's big, they want to show it off. Big car, Big house, Big bank roll... :spinning: I don't defend it, because pride does have it's consequence when out of control, but those pics of Bishop and his muscles, is not unusual. God have mercy on this entire case.

God, we surely need your mercy upon us all. Lead and guide us in what we should do and how we should pray. In Jesus' name, Amen and Amen.

I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but chuckle when I read the bolded. It made me think of my hubby when we met 17 years ago. He used to love to show of his chest and abs.

[silenttullip]

Maybe I read a bad article but the one I read didn't state the boys were "gay" but it did state they were 22 and 20. I'll go search to find it again. It also stated they were his "spiritual sons" and after they told people what happened more men said it happened to them too. He even took one on a trip for his 18th b day. I'll keep everyone in prayer BUT my issue is: if all this is so terrible why accept college tuition money, lavish gifts, steal from his office to rebel, and why keep going on trips with this "guy". I mean seriously if they were younger I'd understand but this isn't like they don't have minds to know better. I'll wait till the facts come in. NOW for Eddie to have taken those pics "if he did" *HOMIE LOOKS GOOD not the same Eddie I use to see on Sunday lol* but seriously I agree with the lady who said that's not how a Christian man "preacher or not" should handle himself. And based on my experience in and out of church for a Christian man that is EXTREMELY UNUSUAL now we all have our issues but the guys I know wouldn't get away with that because even if they had a moment of bad judgment they're surrounded are so many Christians who care about how their bros and sis's in Christ behave they'd politely check them on it. It did seem extremely conceited and I am wondering about his ring too. My best friend is a Preacher and he could NEVER have pics like that on his facebook or anywhere else. He doesn't even wear things like that to work out in because people can get the wrong idea whether or not you're trying to give it to them.
I mean flip it and put Jaunita Bynum *prob spelled it wrong* in a tennis skirt and a sports bra in her BATHROOM but one that covers her tummy.... Come on now lol

[Sharpened]

Did anyone see the video below? It was posted a few months ago...some think this could be **** Long...
Even if this situation didn't happen, the video still has a good Word

YouTube - Brian Carn - "Spirit of Perversion and Deception" In the Church (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5vjiECf6OQ&feature=player_embedded)Someone on this forum said the Lord told her about the homosexuals in the pulpits. I avoid "popular preachers"...too much opportunity for slivers of deception to be slipped in underneath mountains of truth.

I am not going to get into these allegations, but I see it as a sign to believers not to be so dependent on these so-called leaders and lean upon Him, alone. Here is someone prophecy along those lines: A Word for the Season Part III - FIRE IN THE HOUSE! (http://www.openheaven.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=31613&PN=1)

[Guitarhero]

The allegations are horrid. I'm just perusing Flagg's and his abuse began at age 16, not 20. Have to read it in detail. They stated the youth group had ages 13-18...if one of those kids were under 16 and this is true, Long is going to be fried.

People often wait to report such abuse when they are that young. They get some clarity in their lives and they get angry about it. As far as male arousal, you are sharing the hotel room with him and he starts something that physically is hard to stop? I can definitely see how this happened if allegations are true. I feel very sorry about this situation. Doesn't look good at all. Perversion...harming children.

[Health&hair28]

I dont know if this stuff is true, but I have been a victim of spiritual abuse by church leadership. I have had leaders lie and try to cover what they were doing,they twisted scriptures to manipulate and intimidate, they talked about people across the pulpit based off counseling sessions.

As a young Christian in a church it was engrained in us to get under the Mand of God and submit no matter what or you wont reach your destiny, or you were considered rebellious if you did not get in their face and do for them.

I BELIEVED THIS STUFF, I was a babe and all the mature saints were going along with it and I did not want to be the Rebellious one when stuff did not sound right.

So when these guys say that He used scripture to get them to fully submit and get under him, and become his spiritual sons. I am inclined to believe that part because it happened to me. You dont make that up unless you have been in that.

I have had leaders use scripture to put fear to submit no matter how they may treat someone. Get with the vision of the house, take care of your leaders (that meant give up large sums of money, buy them steaks and stuff, buy them clothes), when there were members struggling.

I got the revelation that this was not of God by spending time in prayer, fasting, and my word to realize that MY HOPE is in Christ and not man.

See if you read Ephesians 4 where it talks about the 5 fold ministry you will see that leaders are to equip the saints, for the work of the ministry, and the edification of the saints. Not to make their own kingdoms, not to control, not to manipulate, not to scam. They are to help God's people grow up and help expand the Kingdom of God.

GOD IS CALLING HIS PEOPLE TO GET IN HIM AND NOT MAN, NOT LEADERSHIP, THEY CANT SAVE YOU ONLY CHRIST.

READ YOUR BIBLE, PRAY, FAST, GET TO KNOW THE TRUE MASTER, LORD, AND SAVIOR.
AND YES WE NEED EACH OTHER BUT WE ARE NOT TO LORD OVER.

Blessings