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BeaLady
09-23-2008, 09:26 AM
Gospel Today magazine pulled from some bookstores' shelves

Sep. 21, 2008
Updated: Sep. 22, 2008

Durham, N.C. — A national Christian magazine featuring a Durham pastor is causing controversy after it was pulled from the shelves of a major book chain.

For nine years, pastor Sheryl Brady has used her enthusiasm and energy to inspire her congregation at The River Church, 4005 Holt School Road. So when she was chosen to be on the cover of Gospel Today magazine, as one of the fastest growing women-led congregations in the United States, she jumped at the chance.

“It was a huge honor. I was just blessed to be there,” Brady said.

However, soon after the magazine's September-October issue was published, all 150 Lifeway Christian Bookstores pulled the issue from its shelves because of its affiliation with the Southern Baptist Convention.

The group says women pastors go against its beliefs, according to its interpretation of the New Testament.

“I'm shocked. I'm shocked that you're here (and) that we're having this conversation. I'm shocked that in 2008 that there's still a gender prejudice in the church,” Brady said.

Published for nearly 20 years, Gospel Today is the largest and most widely distributed urban Christian publication in the country, with a circulation of 240,000. The magazine's publisher, Dr. Teresa Hairston, said she was just reporting on a trend, not trying to promote female pastors.

“I look at this and I think it's humiliating. I think it's degrading that they would take this magazine and yank it off the shelves because women are in leadership,” Hairston said.

Nationally, the Southern Baptists have adopted statements discouraging women from being pastors, but their 42,000 U.S. churches are independent and a few have selected women to lead their congregations. The denomination was organized in 1845 in Augusta, Ga.

Chris Turner, a spokesman for Lifeway Resources, said the cover was not the reason the magazine was pulled from Lifeway's shelves.

"The buyers said the statements that were in it took positions that were contrary to what we would say," Turner said. "It wasn't so much that there were women on the cover."

Pastor Bill Sanderson – a staunch supporter of the Southern Baptist Convention – said in a statement Sunday, " We go by scripture and what the word of God teaches."

Sanderson added, "A man holds the position of pastor not a woman."

“You can't tell me I'm not a pastor. I'm a shepherd of these people,” Brady said.

Featured on the cover are Brady; Pastor Tamara Bennett of This Is Pentecost Ministries in Sacramento, Calif.; Bishop Millicent Hunter of The Baptist Worship Center in Philadelphia, Pa.; Pastor Claudette Copeland of New Creation Christian Fellowship in San Antonio, Texas; and Pastor Kimberly Ray of Church on the Rock in Matteson, Ill.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3582253/

tmichelle
09-23-2008, 09:32 AM
^^^ Interesting, thanks for posting this. Being that Lifeway Christian is a Southern Baptist based chain, I'm surprised she is shocked. Would she expect an Amish store to carry this issue?

Aviah
09-23-2008, 09:56 AM
Gospel Today magazine pulled from some bookstores' shelves

Sep. 21, 2008
Updated: Sep. 22, 2008

Durham, N.C. — A national Christian magazine featuring a Durham pastor is causing controversy after it was pulled from the shelves of a major book chain.

For nine years, pastor Sheryl Brady has used her enthusiasm and energy to inspire her congregation at The River Church, 4005 Holt School Road. So when she was chosen to be on the cover of Gospel Today magazine, as one of the fastest growing women-led congregations in the United States, she jumped at the chance.

“It was a huge honor. I was just blessed to be there,” Brady said.

However, soon after the magazine's September-October issue was published, all 150 Lifeway Christian Bookstores pulled the issue from its shelves because of its affiliation with the Southern Baptist Convention.

The group says women pastors go against its beliefs, according to its interpretation of the New Testament.

“I'm shocked. I'm shocked that you're here (and) that we're having this conversation. I'm shocked that in 2008 that there's still a gender prejudice in the church,” Brady said.

Published for nearly 20 years, Gospel Today is the largest and most widely distributed urban Christian publication in the country, with a circulation of 240,000. The magazine's publisher, Dr. Teresa Hairston, said she was just reporting on a trend, not trying to promote female pastors.

“I look at this and I think it's humiliating. I think it's degrading that they would take this magazine and yank it off the shelves because women are in leadership,” Hairston said.

Nationally, the Southern Baptists have adopted statements discouraging women from being pastors, but their 42,000 U.S. churches are independent and a few have selected women to lead their congregations. The denomination was organized in 1845 in Augusta, Ga.

Chris Turner, a spokesman for Lifeway Resources, said the cover was not the reason the magazine was pulled from Lifeway's shelves.

"The buyers said the statements that were in it took positions that were contrary to what we would say," Turner said. "It wasn't so much that there were women on the cover."

Pastor Bill Sanderson – a staunch supporter of the Southern Baptist Convention – said in a statement Sunday, " We go by scripture and what the word of God teaches."

Sanderson added, "A man holds the position of pastor not a woman."

“You can't tell me I'm not a pastor. I'm a shepherd of these people,” Brady said.

Featured on the cover are Brady; Pastor Tamara Bennett of This Is Pentecost Ministries in Sacramento, Calif.; Bishop Millicent Hunter of The Baptist Worship Center in Philadelphia, Pa.; Pastor Claudette Copeland of New Creation Christian Fellowship in San Antonio, Texas; and Pastor Kimberly Ray of Church on the Rock in Matteson, Ill.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3582253/

This comes to mind....
Galatians 3:28-
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

tmichelle
09-23-2008, 10:08 AM
This comes to mind....
Galatians 3:28-
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

In Christ we are definitely one. Does this mean that we are all called to the same roles? If so then I suppose you would have no issue with any distinction? Including homosexual marriages?

momi
09-23-2008, 10:24 AM
I am not surprised - that is like having a McDonald's inside of a Whole-Foods. It is contrary to their beliefs.

I actually commend LifeWay for this move... they took a stand for what they believe. In this age of super-tolerance I think we can all learn something from that.

BeaLady
09-23-2008, 10:28 AM
^^^ Interesting, thanks for posting this. Being that Lifeway Christian is a Southern Baptist based chain, I'm surprised she is shocked. Would she expect an Amish store to carry this issue?

I doubt she would expect an Amish store to carry her magazine. The store has been carrying her magazine. I think it's a little ironic because the article says that most churches are independent and some of their congregations have selected women to lead their churches.

Caramela
09-23-2008, 12:33 PM
Thank you. I agree with the bookstore's decision to pull the book. If the female "pastor" truly honored and believed that the bible had the final say, she would understand that it had nothing to do with sexism.

this is a classic example of Burger King Christianity... Contrary to popular belief you cannot "HAVE IT YOUR WAY!"...

Caramela
09-23-2008, 12:35 PM
Thank you. I agree with the bookstore's decision to pull the book. If the female "pastor" truly honored and believed that the bible had the final say, she would understand that it had nothing to do with sexism.

this is a classic example of Burger King Christianity... Contrary to popular belief you cannot "HAVE IT YOUR WAY!"...

Caramela
09-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Thank you. I agree with the bookstore's decision to pull the book. If the female "pastor" truly honored and believed that the bible had the final say, she would understand that it had nothing to do with sexism.

this is a classic example of Burger King Christianity... Contrary to popular belief you cannot "HAVE IT YOUR WAY!"...

PaperClip
09-23-2008, 01:12 PM
In Christ we are definitely one. Does this mean that we are all called to the same roles? If so then I suppose you would have no issue with any distinction? Including homosexual marriages?

Not a sound comparison....

My journalistic side says that a bookstore should be open (within reasonable limits) to allowing access of a variety of opinions to its consumers. Like if I go to a Black bookstore and there are some books there that I can buy about White supremacist thought, you know, that's a courageous thing to do.

My Holy Spirit (which takes precedence) again, I'm curious about the fear of having ONE ISSUE of this magazine cause so much fear and threat, esp. if they've carried the magazine all this time. If they wanted to make a strong statement, then cancel selling the magazine altogether, right? Or is it because some of their consumers look for that magazine in their stores each month and the store doesn't want to lose their business, right? It's all about the money....

Doctrine/theology aside: I'm not impressed that they pulled the issue.

BeaLady
09-23-2008, 02:26 PM
Not a sound comparison....

My journalistic side says that a bookstore should be open (within reasonable limits) to allowing access of a variety of opinions to its consumers. Like if I go to a Black bookstore and there are some books there that I can buy about White supremacist thought, you know, that's a courageous thing to do.

My Holy Spirit (which takes precedence) again, I'm curious about the fear of having ONE ISSUE of this magazine cause so much fear and threat, esp. if they've carried the magazine all this time. If they wanted to make a strong statement, then cancel selling the magazine altogether, right? Or is it because some of their consumers look for that magazine in their stores each month and the store doesn't want to lose their business, right? It's all about the money....

Doctrine/theology aside: I'm not impressed that they pulled the issue.

I agree with you. This bothers me because I think there may have been other reasons for doing this.

We don't have this bookstore in my part of the country so I looked at their website. I found books by John Hagee who believes in speaking in tongues which is not wholly accepted by the Southern Baptists. I found a book by Jimmy Carter who left the denomination because he didn't agree with their stance on women ministers. They had music by Shirley Caesar and Juanita Bynum, a pastor and a minister. I also found a book titled, Courage and Hope: The Stories of Ten Baptist Women Ministers.

That is what bothered me. They were not consistent and it appears hypocritical to me.

BeaLady
09-23-2008, 02:31 PM
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Caramela
09-23-2008, 02:31 PM
Not a sound comparison....

My journalistic side says that a bookstore should be open (within reasonable limits) to allowing access of a variety of opinions to its consumers. Like if I go to a Black bookstore and there are some books there that I can buy about White supremacist thought, you know, that's a courageous thing to do.

My Holy Spirit (which takes precedence) again, I'm curious about the fear of having ONE ISSUE of this magazine cause so much fear and threat, esp. if they've carried the magazine all this time. If they wanted to make a strong statement, then cancel selling the magazine altogether, right? Or is it because some of their consumers look for that magazine in their stores each month and the store doesn't want to lose their business, right? It's all about the money....

Doctrine/theology aside: I'm not impressed that they pulled the issue.


But what if it were a homosexual "pastor" - would you agree with the bookstore pulling the book. Or would you still say that the bookstore should be "open"?

BeaLady
09-23-2008, 02:41 PM
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momi
09-23-2008, 02:45 PM
Not a sound comparison....

My journalistic side says that a bookstore should be open (within reasonable limits) to allowing access of a variety of opinions to its consumers. Like if I go to a Black bookstore and there are some books there that I can buy about White supremacist thought, you know, that's a courageous thing to do.

My Holy Spirit (which takes precedence) again, I'm curious about the fear of having ONE ISSUE of this magazine cause so much fear and threat, esp. if they've carried the magazine all this time. If they wanted to make a strong statement, then cancel selling the magazine altogether, right? Or is it because some of their consumers look for that magazine in their stores each month and the store doesn't want to lose their business, right? It's all about the money....

Doctrine/theology aside: I'm not impressed that they pulled the issue.


I understand your premise, however biblical headship is a serious matter and should be looked into further by most Christians. Just because we see a thing and it appears to be working - does not mean we should adopt it as gospel.

Honestly, had I gone into the bookstore and seen the magazine I would not have thought much about it, but since it has come to the forefront I support their decision based reasons stated in my previous post.

May I add that I love this forum and enjoy our conversations here!

momi
09-23-2008, 02:46 PM
double post ----

i can't stand when this happens

momi
09-23-2008, 02:47 PM
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<<double post>>>

BeaLady
09-23-2008, 02:49 PM
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